Page 4 of 14
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:57 pm
by poo-maker
wow, u really suck at team games... but nice record in the singles though. looks like i wont be joining the list

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:05 pm
by Kid_A
hehe. yeah i do. but i believe that puts me at 3rd all time for singles matches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:37 am
by Stopper
Kid_A wrote:I suck at team games
Oh, great!
Now I find out!
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:11 am
by juventino
New plan.....
I have 3000 points. Lose them down to about 500.
Then only play singels. Perhaps gain up to 2000-2300 who knows.
Before I had a gain in team of perhaps 700 points. Now i get a net loss for 1800 points (2500-700). That means I should have 4000 points if i would only get single points?
I really like this list. It is fun and it needs to be done. But I have started to think it is almost impossible to get a fair one, doing the math yourself. It must be done within the program and counting team and single games seperatly. Perhaps it can be done in the future.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:15 am
by Kid_A
Stopper wrote:Kid_A wrote:I suck at team games
Oh, great!
Now I find out!
we're about to win that one so dont worry

flawed
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:23 am
by Blitzaholic
juventino wrote:New plan.....
I have 3000 points. Lose them down to about 500.
Then only play singels. Perhaps gain up to 2000-2300 who knows.
Before I had a gain in team of perhaps 700 points. Now i get a net loss for 1800 points (2500-700). That means I should have 4000 points if i would only get single points?
I really like this list. It is fun and it needs to be done. But I have started to think it is almost impossible to get a fair one, doing the math yourself. It must be done within the program and counting team and single games seperatly. Perhaps it can be done in the future.
Well Juventino, I got a 1982 singles rank and teams killed my singles score big time, this is why my singles rank is handicapped, perhaps I will lose all my team games now, all of them, hmmmmmmm, so let's see here, I just lost 3600 points from my rank, but I had 1982 in singles, so, hmmmm, I got a 5582 rank in singles, sweet, LOL. Obviously I would never do this, but it shows how flawed this can be!
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:04 am
by ZawBanjito
Har har, nice to know I'm still in the top 10 at something.
You bums all bettah watch out though. I've got no vacation days left until the age of 40 and I've just entered a relationship with a girl who lives far far away. I've got nothing to do at night now except stare you down. Down, down, down. Moohoohahahahaha.
kid A
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
by Blitzaholic
Kid_A wrote:My current score is 2440.
After doing the math, I've lost a total of 184 points in team games (I suck at team games)
So if I'd never played a team game, my score would be:
2624
that is impressive kid A, well done
and Robin I got 2 more singles scores for you, these are precise to the letter, Artur1 has 2441 singles rank and Goatboy has 2290 singles rank, you may want to extent it to top 20, or top 10 and next 10, hope this helps.
and what about gotheart86? he may be up there, I know he won the battle royal for like 700 points or so, would that count? or asterik?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:07 am
by Robinette
juventino wrote:New plan.....
I have 3000 points. Lose them down to about 500.
Then only play singels. Perhaps gain up to 2000-2300 who knows.
Before I had a gain in team of perhaps 700 points. Now i get a net loss for 1800 points (2500-700). That means I should have 4000 points if i would only get single points?
I really like this list. It is fun and it needs to be done. But I have started to think it is almost impossible to get a fair one, doing the math yourself. It must be done within the program and counting team and single games seperatly. Perhaps it can be done in the future.

yikes... of course i new this was only accurate for those who have only played a small % of team games... and the higher the ratio of team games the more skued the score....
but i never really thought thru the potential to abuse it.... well, this scoring system is definetly broken.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:52 pm
by Kid_A

hmm....still dont see my name on that list.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:27 pm
by sully800
juventino wrote:New plan.....
I have 3000 points. Lose them down to about 500.
Then only play singels. Perhaps gain up to 2000-2300 who knows.
Before I had a gain in team of perhaps 700 points. Now i get a net loss for 1800 points (2500-700). That means I should have 4000 points if i would only get single points?
I really like this list. It is fun and it needs to be done. But I have started to think it is almost impossible to get a fair one, doing the math yourself. It must be done within the program and counting team and single games seperatly. Perhaps it can be done in the future.
Yeah, as Robin said the more team games you have played the less accurate this is. People with a vast majority of singles games will end up very close to what their score would actually be.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:18 pm
by Robinette
sully800 wrote:juventino wrote:New plan.....
I have 3000 points. Lose them down to about 500.
Then only play singels. Perhaps gain up to 2000-2300 who knows.
Before I had a gain in team of perhaps 700 points. Now i get a net loss for 1800 points (2500-700). That means I should have 4000 points if i would only get single points?
I really like this list. It is fun and it needs to be done. But I have started to think it is almost impossible to get a fair one, doing the math yourself. It must be done within the program and counting team and single games seperatly. Perhaps it can be done in the future.
Yeah, as Robin said the more team games you have played the less accurate this is. People with a vast majority of singles games will end up very close to what their score would actually be.
hey sully, you think you could figure out some sort of a ratio effect for this... I know it won't be accurate, but maybe we could create a crude handicap...
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:48 pm
by sully800
I'll look into it
Also of note- I just bumped Juventino out of the 6th place spot.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:55 pm
by Cheeri-O
ill be up there some day (in a million years)
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:14 am
by juventino
sully800 wrote:Also of note- I just bumped Juventino out of the 6th place spot.

I who just started to like you
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:41 am
by Kid_A
Kid_A wrote::-k hmm....still dont see my name on that list.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:14 am
by chessplaya
Kid_A wrote:Kid_A wrote::-k hmm....still dont see my name on that list.

YOU R TRULY AN A+++ NAGGER ARENT YA

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:15 am
by Kid_A
chessplaya wrote:Kid_A wrote:Kid_A wrote::-k hmm....still dont see my name on that list.

YOU R TRULY AN A+++ NAGGER ARENT YA

not done yet CHEESEplaya?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:16 am
by chessplaya
Kid_A wrote:chessplaya wrote:Kid_A wrote:Kid_A wrote::-k hmm....still dont see my name on that list.

YOU R TRULY AN A+++ NAGGER ARENT YA

not done yet CHEESEplaya?

what ur doing awake at this time man ???
let's RT!!!
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:20 am
by Kid_A
o hell no!!
about to go to sleep. cant be up for another 3 hours!
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:22 am
by chessplaya
Kid_A wrote:o hell no!!
about to go to sleep. cant be up for another 3 hours!
who said 3 ours i need 20 min to eliminate u

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:26 am
by Kid_A
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:33 pm
by Robinette
I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)
....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.............(1st wk of April)........... ever .......
1. Lazaruslong . . . .2732 . . . . . . . . . . . 2886 . . . . . . . . 2886
2. Robinette. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
3. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2641 . . . . . . . . . . . 2641 . . . . . . . . 3160
4. Kid_A . . . . . . . . .2534 . . . . . . . . . . . 2534 . . . . . . . . 2534?
5. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
6. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2497. . . . . . . . . . . 2531 . . . . . . . . 2531?
7. sully800 . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . 2387
8. Goatboy . . . . . . . 2313. . . . . . . . . . . 2340. . . . . . . . .2340?
9. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2221 . . . . . . . . . . .2221. . . . . . . . .2558
10. RL_Orange. . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . . .2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
What is not displayed, is what the highest score each person above has achieved without team games....
The approximate high scores would give us a list that would look something like this:
1. Nuke ................. 3160
2. RL_Orange ....... 3088
3. cyberdaniel....... 3050
4. Robinette ......... 2950
5. Lazaruslong ..... 2750
6. zawbanjito........ 2550
7. Kid_A ................ 2534
8. artur1 ............... 2497
9. sully800............ 2350
10. Goatboy .......... 2313
Many problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes....
The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.
The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.
Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games...
All scores were verified between 3/31 and 4/7/07 unless noted otherwise
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:57 pm
by qeee1
what happened to me?
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:57 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
what did my score come out to ?