cof's forum ban.

[Commander9]

Also, as far as recent discussion goes about Conqueror's title - there's an article in CC's newsletter ("Veni, Vidi, Vici") that discusses that.

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

Let's see what hailstorm this one brings:

I applaud CC Global mods for enforcing the rules -- both for CoF and for MB.
-someone in that thread mentioned "we can 1) agree, 2) disagree, 3) act like a dick
- 1 & 2 are acceptable. . .doing 3 with 15 posts, and being warned to retract statements was more like 3.

Also:
1) While I found CoF to be quite literate, saying "cheating. . .a liar. . . " are also definite trolls/baits/flames. Other than mentioning here, I'll ignore.
2) Also, the person that tried to spell my name is completely out of line as well.
3) continually saying that a high % of my games are against players with 6-20 games completed is so wrong -- but again, more trolling, flaiming, baiting.

NS has no clue to what he's talking about. He refers to a single post -- when there were 15. And me getting Mods to do my bidding?, people told me to "go fu-ck myself in social and not one of 2-3 mods present did a thing. All I ask is that rules get enforced when things get out of hand. Wanna debate BS NS?, Live Chat-PM, any place, any time.

Just as much BS are people that claim "the majority of CC disapproves.". The majority don't care. . .and many understand. They just are vocal crybabies.

Fine, I am not the strongest player on CC -- never said I was (by the way, great to see Kiron back). But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC. Complaining about someone playing withing the rules is childish. But to rudely over-reply to a friendly well-wish WAS trolling (and baiting/flaming).

When I was a little I spoke as a child, played like a child and complained like a child. When I became a man I put away childish things. Now, can I have my juicebox, cookies and then take a nap before recess?

[Night Strike]

NS has no clue to what he's talking about. He refers to a single post -- when there were 15. And me getting Mods to do my bidding?, people told me to "go fu-ck myself in social and not one of 2-3 mods present did a thing. All I ask is that rules get enforced when things get out of hand. Wanna debate BS NS?, Live Chat-PM, any place, any time.

So I assume you were the one you decided to report my post since I merely mentioned your name in a negative light?

And yes, I did refer to a single, unspecified (to the public) post because that was the specific post that was noted in the official records of being an infraction. Like I said in my post (if you did actually read it), if there were other posts that actually broke the rules, they should have been noted properly. From the access I have, the post CoF was banned for did not violate any rules.

[Chariot of Fire]

Let's see what hailstorm this one brings:

I applaud CC Global mods for enforcing the rules -- both for CoF and for MB.
-someone in that thread mentioned "we can 1) agree, 2) disagree, 3) act like a dick
- 1 & 2 are acceptable. . .doing 3 with 15 posts, and being warned to retract statements was more like 3.

Also:
1) While I found CoF to be quite literate, but "cheating. . .a liar. . . " are also definite trolls/baits/flames. Other than mentioning here, I'll ignore.
2) Also, the person that tried to spell my name is completely out of line as well.
3) continually saying that a high % of my games are against players with 6-20 games completed is so wrong -- but again, more trolling, flaiming, baiting.

NS has no clue to what he's talking about. He refers to a single post -- when there were 15. And me getting Mods to do my bidding?, people told me to "go fu-ck myself in social and not one of 2-3 mods present did a thing. All I ask is that rules get enforced when things get out of hand. Wanna debate BS NS?, Live Chat-PM, any place, any time.

Just as much BS are people that claim "the majority of CC disapproves.". The majority don't care. . .and many understand. They just are vocal crybabies.

Fine, I am not the strongest player on CC -- never said I was (by the way, great to see Kiron back). But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC. Complaining about someone playing withing the rules is childish.

When I was a little I spoke as a child, played like a child and complained like a child. When I became a man I put away childish things. Now, can I have my juicebox, cookies and then take a nap before recess?

I think you'll find my statement "But when one of its members is a thief, or a liar, or a bully" neither names nor alludes to anybody. Guilty much?

[IR1SH ACE]

Fine, I am not the strongest player on CC -- never said I was (by the way, great to see Kiron back). But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC. Complaining about someone playing withing the rules is childish. But to rudely over-reply to a friendly well-wish WAS trolling (and baiting/flaming).

first I dont think anybody was implying that you were the strongest player on CC.....

second you always use the "I have to offset the tremendous odds of losing shit loads of points because of having such a high score" relative to over 90% of the CC community.....as if you always had a high score, I have already addressed this excuse of yours before in one of the many threads that have popped up since you became conqueror but in case you missed it....I will quote myself...

which I can kind of understand...it gets annoying the further up the ranking u go the more points u can lose to lower rank players but after looking into GLG's games more closely its very clear he has been doing this for over 3 years now.....

I would pinpoint this game as the beginning of his SCAM to get to the top......Game 3374046 - 2008-10-01 00:50:15 - Game has been initialized
(3 months into GLG's CC career - Stats = 373 GP, score 1815)

so in 3 years he has gone from a score of 1815..... to 4953...I was not around 3 years ago but maybe back then 1815 points was top of the table sort of score and u needed to do as you say...."so I use whatever I can do to offset that"

I cant believe that the owner (lack) and his admins have allowed this to continue for so long and by constantly ignoring this SCAM they are setting a precedent for more players to take up the GLG way of playing CC....

very soon the Live Chat Call-outs will be like a saloon in a Wild West movie....all the COWBOYS sitting around waiting for some stranger to walk in...............

"Howdy partner your not from around these parts?"

back on topic...welcome back CoF and your ban was BS...I seen just as much baiting/flaming coming from GLG in that thread as was thrown back at him and agree some people deserved a slap on the wrist but it seems to be a very biased call on the mods part....

Cheers Ace

[Master Bush]

When I was a little I spoke as a child, played like a child and complained like a child. When I became a man I put away childish things. Now, can I have my juicebox, cookies and then take a nap before recess?

I know I said I was gonna back off you, and I have. Even in these few days after my ban, I merely debate CoF's ban, and the way this forum/site has been run, and have avoided mentioning you at all. But when I see a comment like this, I have to say something.

What we play here is pretty much a board game, that we all played when we were young. So you really can't puff your chest out and tell everyone about how much of a man you are, when you play this childish game, and strive to be at the top of this childish game's leaderboard. And a real man would never play the style you do. Now before you report me for flaming, I will make clear that I am not saying you are not a man, because obviously you are, but you do seem to do childish things.

[Denise]

Just as much BS are people that claim "the majority of CC disapproves.". The majority don't care. . .and many understand. They just are vocal crybabies.

I think you are wrong. I think most players who understand what you are doing do care, and disapprove. But even if you are right and most players don't care, that doesn't make your actions right.

What you are doing gives you an unfair advantage. You have taken away the luck factor. The rest of us lose some games. A huge part of why I play this game is to see how high I can get my score, but you and I don't play on a level playing field. What you do cheats not only the new player you invite to your games, but also those of us who try to raise our score playing the game the way it was meant to be played. This statement of yours proves my point:

But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC.

You offer a game the offsets the odds? What about the rest of us? We must play those odds. That it is, as you say, within the rules boggles my mind.

You can excuse your private games to low ranks with whatever excuse you will, but that won't change the fact that you are taking unfair advantage of them. What if we all did this? The game would be a disaster. This in itself should clue you and others in that to allow you to continue to do this is horrible for the game.

[Uncle Death]

Let's see what hailstorm this one brings:

I applaud CC Global mods for enforcing the rules -- both for CoF and for MB.
-someone in that thread mentioned "we can 1) agree, 2) disagree, 3) act like a dick
- 1 & 2 are acceptable. . .doing 3 with 15 posts, and being warned to retract statements was more like 3.

Also:
1) While I found CoF to be quite literate, saying "cheating. . .a liar. . . " are also definite trolls/baits/flames. Other than mentioning here, I'll ignore.
2) Also, the person that tried to spell my name is completely out of line as well.
3) continually saying that a high % of my games are against players with 6-20 games completed is so wrong -- but again, more trolling, flaiming, baiting.

NS has no clue to what he's talking about. He refers to a single post -- when there were 15. And me getting Mods to do my bidding?, people told me to "go fu-ck myself in social and not one of 2-3 mods present did a thing. All I ask is that rules get enforced when things get out of hand. Wanna debate BS NS?, Live Chat-PM, any place, any time.

Just as much BS are people that claim "the majority of CC disapproves.". The majority don't care. . .and many understand. They just are vocal crybabies.

Fine, I am not the strongest player on CC -- never said I was (by the way, great to see Kiron back). But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC. Complaining about someone playing withing the rules is childish. But to rudely over-reply to a friendly well-wish WAS trolling (and baiting/flaming).

When I was a little I spoke as a child, played like a child and complained like a child. When I became a man I put away childish things. Now, can I have my juicebox, cookies and then take a nap before recess?

What honor or achievement do you have? You are reviled by almost all that are aware of what you have done and are only supported by a discredited few that now protect you. Those you say do not care are simply unaware. That will change and you will be known as the joke that you are. Who are you going to brag about your achievement to that won't laugh at you or scorn you? Were you going to put his on your resume?

[Uncle Death]

Let's see what hailstorm this one brings:

I applaud CC Global mods for enforcing the rules -- both for CoF and for MB.
-someone in that thread mentioned "we can 1) agree, 2) disagree, 3) act like a dick
- 1 & 2 are acceptable. . .doing 3 with 15 posts, and being warned to retract statements was more like 3.

Also:
1) While I found CoF to be quite literate, saying "cheating. . .a liar. . . " are also definite trolls/baits/flames. Other than mentioning here, I'll ignore.
2) Also, the person that tried to spell my name is completely out of line as well.
3) continually saying that a high % of my games are against players with 6-20 games completed is so wrong -- but again, more trolling, flaiming, baiting.

NS has no clue to what he's talking about. He refers to a single post -- when there were 15. And me getting Mods to do my bidding?, people told me to "go fu-ck myself in social and not one of 2-3 mods present did a thing. All I ask is that rules get enforced when things get out of hand. Wanna debate BS NS?, Live Chat-PM, any place, any time.

Just as much BS are people that claim "the majority of CC disapproves.". The majority don't care. . .and many understand. They just are vocal crybabies.

Fine, I am not the strongest player on CC -- never said I was (by the way, great to see Kiron back). But I offer a game that for me offsets the tremendous odds (Loser/winnerx20) -- and work within the rules of CC. Complaining about someone playing withing the rules is childish. But to rudely over-reply to a friendly well-wish WAS trolling (and baiting/flaming).

When I was a little I spoke as a child, played like a child and complained like a child. When I became a man I put away childish things. Now, can I have my juicebox, cookies and then take a nap before recess?

What honor or achievement do you have? You are reviled by almost all that are aware of what you have done and are only supported by a discredited few that now protect you. Those you say do not care are simply unaware. That will change and you will be known as the joke that you are. Who are you going to brag about your achievement to that won't laugh at you or scorn you? Were you going to put this on your resume?

[King_Herpes]

Hey troops, just though I'd flutter in and cheer you up with some natural bewilderment. You can thank me later.

Seems like all you guys like to do anymore is fight and tear down the emotional bridges I've been building. Not to worry though. Since you're having trouble demonstrating any healthy amount of humility or altruism, I'll just go right ahead and do it for you. Because that's what passion is all about people. So for a while, when things heat up and until things calm down I'm going to be flying through to give everyone some much needed butterfly kisses!




Watch out! I'm going to tickle your ears and noses,



KH-Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ

[Master Bush]

you creep me out bubb.

[smegal69]

Oh KH, oh how i waiting for you to land on my flower, as my Stamens are full and ready to burst forth new life...... how about you slide your long tongue down my Stigma and suck out all my nectar and rub your legs up and down my throbbing pistil !!!

[Chariot of Fire]

Oh KH, oh how i waiting for you to land on my flower, as my Stamens are full and ready to burst forth new life...... how about you slide your long tongue down my Stigma and suck out all my nectar and rub your legs up and down my throbbing pistil !!!

This has to be the ultimate conversation stopper.

Smegal...please tell me you're a woman!

[thegreekdog]

Let's see what hailstorm this one brings:

I applaud CC Global mods for enforcing the rules -- both for CoF and for MB.
-someone in that thread mentioned "we can 1) agree, 2) disagree, 3) act like a dick
- 1 & 2 are acceptable. . .doing 3 with 15 posts, and being warned to retract statements was more like 3.

Also:
1) While I found CoF to be quite literate, saying "cheating. . .a liar. . . " are also definite trolls/baits/flames. Other than mentioning here, I'll ignore.
2) Also, the person that tried to spell my name is completely out of line as well.
3) continually saying that a high % of my games are against players with 6-20 games completed is so wrong -- but again, more trolling, flaiming, baiting.

Caveat - I'm virtually uninterested in how you got to be conqueror; so, please take the following for what it is: namely, a discussion of forum moderating and bannings.

There, that's out of the way.

You've indicated here that CoF indicated you were cheating and a liar. You also mention, generally, trolls, baits and flames. So, I put this question to you and to others: Do your definitions of trolling, baiting, and flaming (including references to the words "cheating" and "liar") not lend themselves to gross abuse by moderators and posters who would like to report posts of those that disagree with them?

To put it another way, one that perhaps you will understand in that it involves your own self-interest, if I scoured your posts over the course of your time here, would I find the words "cheating" or "cheater" or "liar?" Would I be able to find instances where you trolled, flamed, or baited in an innocuous way (i.e. one that does not harm the forum in a meaningful fashion) or in a way that, rather than truly being trolling, flaming, or baiting, was meant to criticize in a rational manner? If I found these things, how do you think I should react and how do you think the moderators should react? Should I report these posts and try to get a ban, in the same manner and fashion as CoF was banned?

Enforcing rules is great; it helps people enjoy the website. However, we should all bear in mind the potential for hypocrisy and overregulation in the forums, especially when we take a look at what each of us has typed. Therefore, I urge you, before you hit reply with some witty remark, to think about these things.

[King_Herpes]

Oh KH, oh how i waiting for you to land on my flower, as my Stamens are full and ready to burst forth new life...... how about you slide your long tongue down my Stigma and suck out all my nectar and rub your legs up and down my throbbing pistil !!!

Don't mind if I do! Nom nom nom nom nom!!





Keep on smiling troops,



KH-Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ

[Crazyirishman]

Oh KH, oh how i waiting for you to land on my flower, as my Stamens are full and ready to burst forth new life...... how about you slide your long tongue down my Stigma and suck out all my nectar and rub your legs up and down my throbbing pistil !!!

You better be careful smegal, Funkyterrance thought he could handle KH-Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ's raw love and kindness, even before his metamorphosis, and look at him now.

[Pedronicus]

I hate to break up the sexual flower tangent this thread has taken, but can I ask a sensible question?

Are the mods happy about the ban handed out? Is it still deemed a correct decision? Is this ban going to be on his record? So that the next ban is a month or whatever is the next length of bans?

[The Voice]

I hate to break up the sexual flower tangent this thread has taken, but can I ask a sensible question?

Are the mods happy about the ban handed out? Is it still deemed a correct decision? Is this ban going to be on his record? So that the next ban is a month or whatever is the next length of bans?

I wish I had the wherewithal to directly answer your questions, Pedro. I think they are legit and ones worth asking.

My guess is they weren't happy about dishing out a forum ban to one of the most respected players on this site, but they are probably content with their decision because they feel they took the correct course of action, i.e., the punishment truly fit the crime in their eyes. Of the two types of mods, the entertainers and the enforcers, the enforcers are not out to be crowd pleasers when reaching a verdict. Nor should they be.

What the public should have some sway over is the rules themselves. CoF's ban only draws more attention to the case that GLG is a paranoid bully.

GLG, I'm not stating you are in fact such a person, and I don't know how to make that clearer. I'd take the liberty of reporting my own post so that you don't have to lift a finger were it not against the rules for me to do so.

My guess is the CoF's ban will remain a mark against him. The enforcer mods cannot afford to be wishy washy. At the same time, I also foresee them addressing this topic, whether it be through a statement, a new ruling, or what-have-you. To do so may take some time, however.

EDIT: King Herpes, I'd appreciate it if you remained on topic.

[Master Bush]

I also foresee them addressing this topic, whether it be through a statement, a new ruling

I do not foresee either of those things happening. But I do appreciate your optimism.

[owenshooter]

I also foresee them addressing this topic, whether it be through a statement, a new ruling

I do not foresee either of those things happening. But I do appreciate your optimism.

this will never happen. andy has created rules to ban players, never explained them and never used them again. when pressed about reviewing the fewer than 12 perma-bans of prominent forum goers, an admin stated it would take too much time to review all 8 or so cases. really? team CC does not do well when pressed, they ignore situations and deem those that question them troublemakers. it is so damn sad..-el Jesus negro

[danryan]

I hate to break up the sexual flower tangent this thread has taken, but can I ask a sensible question?

Are the mods happy about the ban handed out? Is it still deemed a correct decision? Is this ban going to be on his record? So that the next ban is a month or whatever is the next length of bans?

The way C&A has been handled lately it really looks as though the inmates have taken over the asylum. The farmers are provided a clear roadmap with how to abuse new recruits, skirting right on the edge of some arbitrary limit, while CC continues to provide an unfriendly experience for people new to the site. It is absurd that these practices are allowed to continue and a shame that when someone as thoughtful as Simon points out the issue he is granted a ban. I'm really disappointed in the direction CC is headed.

[Chariot of Fire]

Thank you Dan. Sadly I have to agree with you.

[King_Herpes]

I hate to break up the sexual flower tangent this thread has taken, but can I ask a sensible question?

Are the mods happy about the ban handed out? Is it still deemed a correct decision? Is this ban going to be on his record? So that the next ban is a month or whatever is the next length of bans?

The way C&A has been handled lately it really looks as though the inmates have taken over the asylum. The farmers are provided a clear roadmap with how to abuse new recruits, skirting right on the edge of some arbitrary limit, while CC continues to provide an unfriendly experience for people new to the site. It is absurd that these practices are allowed to continue and a shame that when someone as thoughtful as Simon points out the issue he is granted a ban. I'm really disappointed in the direction CC is headed.

Thanks for that, Dan.

Thank you Dan. Sadly I have to agree with you.

Good to have you back, Simon.

[Jippd]

I hate to break up the sexual flower tangent this thread has taken, but can I ask a sensible question?

Are the mods happy about the ban handed out? Is it still deemed a correct decision? Is this ban going to be on his record? So that the next ban is a month or whatever is the next length of bans?

The way C&A has been handled lately it really looks as though the inmates have taken over the asylum. The farmers are provided a clear roadmap with how to abuse new recruits, skirting right on the edge of some arbitrary limit, while CC continues to provide an unfriendly experience for people new to the site. It is absurd that these practices are allowed to continue and a shame that when someone as thoughtful as Simon points out the issue he is granted a ban. I'm really disappointed in the direction CC is headed.

Agreed