[Abandoned] - Official Feudal War Revamp

[wicked]

no way dude. I like the northern part the way it is. In fact, I like all the gameplay... don't change a thing where gameplay is concerned, even the proposed changes you already have. ick.

[yeti_c]

no way dude. I like the northern part the way it is. In fact, I like all the gameplay... don't change a thing where gameplay is concerned, even the proposed changes you already have. ick.

Meh - of the 20 games I've played on this map - I've never started on the top :snigger:

C.

[wicked]

so? doesn't mean we should change the entire map just to suit you.

[yeti_c]

so? doesn't mean we should change the entire map just to suit you.

No but we should try and make the gameplay more balanced... I'll bet that 70% of victories on this map are from players starting in either of the top two castles.

C.

[bryguy]

question, are the trees those little bumps that look like mole hills??

Better add this one to the list . . . .

sorry 'bout that, but unless u look closeley they do look like mole hills/hills, either way i like it

[sfhbballnut]

maybe its just my screen, but the revamp map looks really dark, probably just me though

[edbeard]

sorry I didn't read anything but I noticed something about this version that is bad.

In the old version, I could tell where the borders between regions were quite easily. In this version, they don't stand out that much from regular borders. Additionally, the south east region border to the north looks more like a continuation of the impassable cliff (or whatever it is) than just a regular border.

[hecter]

No offence, but I think your trees make your map look diseased...

Well hector comments like that dont help people when it comes to fixing concerns. . .

Make them look less like sharp, small hills. Make them look more like trees (a darker colour of green would be a good start).

[bryguy]

maybe its just my screen, but the revamp map looks really dark, probably just me though

its SUPPOSED to be dark

[bryguy]

In the old version, I could tell where the borders between regions were quite easily. In this version, they don't stand out that much from regular borders.

your right, in the original they stood out cause of the slight yellow glow behind them, now they blend

[zimmah]

Like the new rivers & Bridges - hate the new green...

You need to make the top half of the map harder to hold.

C.

For this - how about a boat yard in Yer village that lands on the north shore?

C.

would be nice to see a boat yard or something

as well as 2 extra castles (and maybe 1 extra town) to enable 8 player play.

and for some gameplay options, if possible make some scriptings that would enable you to 'see' part of the territories that are 'down below' when you look down from the mountain range each castle has around it, for in fact you do see quite a lot further from above right? so in FoW games, why not show the first 2 or 3 territories from the edge of the mountain if you hold it? (attacking would be impossable off course, unless with arrows, but that would be more like bombarding, and would screw up the gameplay, so just line-of-sight would be fine) on the other hand it might make it harder to invade a given castle, but what if a castle only has 1 side it can see, and 1 side it can't see, then you must find a 'longer and potentially more dangerous route' to sneak up to a given castle, or take the 'short route' and risk being discovered early. also, if you are to implement this, don't forget to add 'forest regions' since forest provides cover

just my 49 cents

[Sven Hassel]

so? doesn't mean we should change the entire map just to suit you.

No but we should try and make the gameplay more balanced... I'll bet that 70% of victories on this map are from players starting in either of the top two castles.

C.

nope here you are wrong i played with some guy about 15 games on feudal, i started almost all of them from the bottom part and managed only lost 2 or 3 the top can be a disadvantage (if you know how ) because most players go for the rhu village and waste armies there, if you are quick and mount a good counter you can take their castle while there are trying to take rhu village

[yeti_c]

Like the new rivers & Bridges - hate the new green...

You need to make the top half of the map harder to hold.

C.

For this - how about a boat yard in Yer village that lands on the north shore?

C.

would be nice to see a boat yard or something

as well as 2 extra castles (and maybe 1 extra town) to enable 8 player play.

and for some gameplay options, if possible make some scriptings that would enable you to 'see' part of the territories that are 'down below' when you look down from the mountain range each castle has around it, for in fact you do see quite a lot further from above right? so in FoW games, why not show the first 2 or 3 territories from the edge of the mountain if you hold it? (attacking would be impossable off course, unless with arrows, but that would be more like bombarding, and would screw up the gameplay, so just line-of-sight would be fine) on the other hand it might make it harder to invade a given castle, but what if a castle only has 1 side it can see, and 1 side it can't see, then you must find a 'longer and potentially more dangerous route' to sneak up to a given castle, or take the 'short route' and risk being discovered early. also, if you are to implement this, don't forget to add 'forest regions' since forest provides cover

just my 49 cents

THis isn't available in the current form of the XML - you would have to list as Bombarding...

However - I believe it was listed as a Maybe on an XML extension so probably next round of XML upgrades could do this.

C.

[Lone.prophet]

yeti which one am i?

and i didnt think you should stop, i liked it a lot. I just thought you should have worked on the China map first.

What I do with my spare time isnt up to you though is it?

what is this a hostile answer all he says is i think

and you than basicly say stfu i dont listen to you

[wicked]

LoneProphet, we don't need you trying to moderate here, as all you're doing is stoking the fire.

Please do comment on the actual map though. And remember, BE NICE.

[Lone.prophet]

most previous comments werent on the map and i am free to give my opinion, and for gimil he is a CA and so shouldnt he be an example?

[wicked]

If anyone has a problem with any "staff" member here, PM Twill, don't bring it up in the thread. Thanks.

Now, back on topic.... I think the numbers look better now, although they seem to be different colors in different parts of the map?

[Lone.prophet]

i have no words for what you just said

[wicked]

Then there's no need to post then, eh?

Now I just noticed this was on vacation. Why start it up then leave it? Is it really on vacation?

[Lone.prophet]

yeah he got all annoying thing about how he should spent his time and shouldnt revamp a just created map that he stopped with it

[gimil]

Im back after my huff

And lone, where not gonna speak about your instigating, k?

[FreeMan10]

Likey Lotey!!!

Looks really good Gimil. I like the fact that the 'neutral' territories have white numbers and the kingdom territs have yellow ones. That would have made things much more obvious to me the first time I played (well, this time).

Somehow, the numbers in Barbarians seem to be a little dimmer than the rest, though. Maybe it's just my eyes playing tricks on me.

I now see the forests - they're much more foresty. I like the hills and dales, too. Vertical relief does seem to add a nice touch.

[Unit_2]

lol, the lake looks like a kidney

[fireedud]

I don't like the roads travelling through the kingdoms, they look awkward. I'm not sure how you can change it, maybe you can just get rid of it altogether?

[wcaclimbing]

could you try darkening the territory borders a bit? they get hard to see in some spots.
Like around North Plains 9,10,12,13. and Lake Minstello 7,8. When the borders cross over the textured land they get kinda difficult to see.