firth4eva wrote:You don't think holland are going to try to make this happen? They will meet people from their group in the semis providing both teams win in the quarters. This will eliminate 2 hard opponents for holland.
This thing is ridiculous. Why do they meet again in the semi-finals? The table should be set up in a way that they meet again in the final.
Yeah, I think the system should be changed to group a vs group c and group b vs group d. So that you won't meet the runner-up or winner from your group another time. I mean, if holland wins the quarter final and the runner up wins it too they have to play again. That's just less interresting than playing against another team.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
Pedronicus wrote:When do England play a match? I haven't seen them in any of the groups so far, but I'm convinced that is a typing error. I saw in the newspapers yesterday Wayne Rooney and a bunch of blokes in Europe. Come on England!!!
They didnt get to the finals... Russia did instead.
sam_levi_11 wrote:the italian football bores me, i went on holiday to sardinia and saw a match cagliari played and it bored me, there was no atmosphere.
having lived in spain though, i know spanish football and its exciting lively stuff like the premiership, the difference being the prem is more about strength, however it is becoming more like la liga in that technical skills are becoming needed more and more.
group C
Holland 9 Romania 4 France 3 Italy 1
iv gone for romania to upset group c. where teams are level its cos i worked out the scores and added them up.
Italy with only 1 point? I honestly don't think you know much about football Sam...no offence intended.
Besides you cannot judge Italian football on only 1 game you saw. Cagliari are one of the weakest teams in Serie A.
do you want to apologise ruben?
i think france and italy will draw meaning they end on 2 and romania will win against holland.
come on romania, wanted them to do well. i support spain and romania now that poland are out practically and i have an excuse not for oktawia to beat me up.
sam_levi_11 wrote:the italian football bores me, i went on holiday to sardinia and saw a match cagliari played and it bored me, there was no atmosphere.
having lived in spain though, i know spanish football and its exciting lively stuff like the premiership, the difference being the prem is more about strength, however it is becoming more like la liga in that technical skills are becoming needed more and more.
group C
Holland 9 Romania 4 France 3 Italy 1
iv gone for romania to upset group c. where teams are level its cos i worked out the scores and added them up.
Italy with only 1 point? I honestly don't think you know much about football Sam...no offence intended.
Besides you cannot judge Italian football on only 1 game you saw. Cagliari are one of the weakest teams in Serie A.
do you want to apologise ruben?
i think france and italy will draw meaning they end on 2 and romania will win against holland.
come on romania, wanted them to do well. i support spain and romania now that poland are out practically and i have an excuse not for oktawia to beat me up.
2 points are not 1 point and if we win we get 4 points.
sam_levi_11 wrote:the italian football bores me, i went on holiday to sardinia and saw a match cagliari played and it bored me, there was no atmosphere.
having lived in spain though, i know spanish football and its exciting lively stuff like the premiership, the difference being the prem is more about strength, however it is becoming more like la liga in that technical skills are becoming needed more and more.
group C
Holland 9 Romania 4 France 3 Italy 1
iv gone for romania to upset group c. where teams are level its cos i worked out the scores and added them up.
Italy with only 1 point? I honestly don't think you know much about football Sam...no offence intended.
Besides you cannot judge Italian football on only 1 game you saw. Cagliari are one of the weakest teams in Serie A.
do you want to apologise ruben?
i think france and italy will draw meaning they end on 2 and romania will win against holland.
come on romania, wanted them to do well. i support spain and romania now that poland are out practically and i have an excuse not for oktawia to beat me up.
cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
hulmey wrote:cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
Hehe. It's true I'm hurting.
But the referees haven't helped us either. We could have won with Romania if the goal scored was allowed. It was a valid goal.
And with Holland although they played better than us the first goal was a clear offside.
hulmey wrote:cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
Hehe. It's true I'm hurting.
But the referees haven't helped us either. We could have won with Romania if the goal scored was allowed. It was a valid goal.
And with Holland although they played better than us the first goal was a clear offside.
I'm still hopeful though.
yer this all true but i still want you to go out
and i only support spain cos im part spanish and romania cos they are underdogs...i never supported poland, just pretended i did for oktawia.
also 2 points may not be 1 point but its still enough to send you out
hulmey wrote:cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
Hehe. It's true I'm hurting.
But the referees haven't helped us either. We could have won with Romania if the goal scored was allowed. It was a valid goal.
And with Holland although they played better than us the first goal was a clear offside.
I'm still hopeful though.
your right about hollands first goal, but what if this and what if that!! honestly the italians havent deserve to win a game. But i still feel for you, coz england have been hurting for 40 years lol...
hulmey wrote:cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
Hehe. It's true I'm hurting.
But the referees haven't helped us either. We could have won with Romania if the goal scored was allowed. It was a valid goal.
And with Holland although they played better than us the first goal was a clear offside.
I'm still hopeful though.
yer this all true but i still want you to go out
and i only support spain cos im part spanish and romania cos they are underdogs...i never supported poland, just pretended i did for oktawia.
also 2 points may not be 1 point but its still enough to send you out
im supporting spain as well....come on Torresssssssssssssssssssssssss
but holland have been impressive, an amaziing team
hulmey wrote:cut ruben some slack, we all know he is hurting right now!!! world champs brought to their knees. worst football italians have played in over 25 years
Hehe. It's true I'm hurting.
But the referees haven't helped us either. We could have won with Romania if the goal scored was allowed. It was a valid goal.
And with Holland although they played better than us the first goal was a clear offside.
I'm still hopeful though.
your right about hollands first goal, but what if this and what if that!!
Yup. No sense in crying about such things because usually the best team wins anyway. If you can't deal with a mistake by the referee and still win, you don't deserve to.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
Snorri1234 wrote:Yup. No sense in crying about such things because usually the best team wins anyway. If you can't deal with a mistake by the referee and still win, you don't deserve to.
With all due respect this comment makes no sense at all.
I have watched many games in my life where mistakes made by referees have affected the result of a game and the team that deserved to win did not win.
Snorri1234 wrote:Yup. No sense in crying about such things because usually the best team wins anyway. If you can't deal with a mistake by the referee and still win, you don't deserve to.
With all due respect this comment makes no sense at all.
I have watched many games in my life where mistakes made by referees have affected the result of a game and the team that deserved to win did not win.
Honestly, a referee can make mistakes. But the point is that saying What if? is silly. What if the referee missed a offense which slowed an attack? What if the referee forgot a different offside?
It's rather silly to claim that a single mistake made the difference.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
kletka wrote:This penalty never should have been given in first place
Defender's hand on attackers neck = Penalty. But, it is true that both linesmen hated Luca Toni throughout the match. Draw is a fair outcome, except for poor saps like me who had bet that Romania will win.
Go and play netball then. Maybe, Poland's penalty was also penalty
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Snorri1234 wrote:Yup. No sense in crying about such things because usually the best team wins anyway. If you can't deal with a mistake by the referee and still win, you don't deserve to.
With all due respect this comment makes no sense at all.
I have watched many games in my life where mistakes made by referees have affected the result of a game and the team that deserved to win did not win.
Honestly, a referee can make mistakes. But the point is that saying What if? is silly. What if the referee missed a offense which slowed an attack? What if the referee forgot a different offside?
It's rather silly to claim that a single mistake made the difference.
You said that a team which has suffered a fault by a referee should win anyway or else the team won't deserve to win. A statement which doesn't make sense.
And yes a single mistake by a referee can make a HUGE difference. Even award a World Cup or a final to a specific team. If you don't believe that you don't watch much football. Referees can determine the outcome of a match or a tournament by a single mistake.
Ruben Cassar wrote: You said that a team which has suffered a fault by a referee should win anyway or else the team won't deserve to win. A statement which doesn't make sense.
And yes a single mistake by a referee can make a HUGE difference. Even award a World Cup or a final to a specific team. If you don't believe that you don't watch much football. Referees can determine the outcome of a match or a tournament by a single mistake.
Yeah but the problem there is that you can't accurately predict what would've happened if the mistake wasn't made. Disregarding last-minute-mistakes which are ofcourse an exception, you really can't predict what could've happened. I mean, if a referee didn't give away a false penalty, the team might have scored in another way.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
Anyone catch Spain's extra time win over Sweden? The Swedes were just holding on... I was really hoping they'd hold out for the draw too. Not a big soccer fan, but I'm a fan of Sweden, thanks to all the Swedes playing for the Detroit Red Wings in hockey.
mine and snorri's Clogs team are doing brilliant. against the world champs 3-0 and the runners-up 4-1. Wesley Snjieders goal was absolutley amazing. Robben and Van Persie's goals were very good to.
somebody should tell teams that are playing spain...that you might want to make sure david villa doesnt get a touch of the ball inside the 18 yard box.
Serbia wrote:Anyone catch Spain's extra time win over Sweden? The Swedes were just holding on... I was really hoping they'd hold out for the draw too. Not a big soccer fan, but I'm a fan of Sweden, thanks to all the Swedes playing for the Detroit Red Wings in hockey.
Italy with only 1 point? I honestly don't think you know much about football Sam...no offence intended.
