Regarding wicked (part 3)

[KLOBBER]

Thank you, General Quigley. Every single statement you posted above is 100% true.

[jiminski]

Thank you, General Quigley. Every single statement you posted above is 100% true.

heheh sweet isn't it.

[lancehoch]

True, TK65.

Also, in order for a statement to be considered "libelous," it must be both malicious and untrue.

My statement above is neither malicious nor untrue, and so it cannot possibly be considered "libelous."

Actually, your statements are both untrue and malicious. wicked was banned from the site for posting sensitive information that she had previously agreed to never divulge. She was not banned for being a PITA to KLOBBER.

[KLOBBER]

True, TK65.

Also, in order for a statement to be considered "libelous," it must be both malicious and untrue.

My statement above is neither malicious nor untrue, and so it cannot possibly be considered "libelous."

Actually, your statements are both untrue and malicious. wicked was banned from the site for posting sensitive information that she had previously agreed to never divulge. She was not banned for being a PITA to KLOBBER.

Lancehoch is confused on the facts: I never claimed that Wicked was banned for being a "PITA."

Lancehoch's "strategy" here (for lack of a better term) is to use the logical fallacy known as a "straw-man argument." This means that he says something untrue about me, then attempts to use his own untrue statement to criticize me. The reason for doing so is that he can find no valid facts to use in his unnatural desire to criticize me. How sad!

Until Lancehoch gets his facts right, any and all opinions he may post in regards to what has been posted previously should be discounted as sheer fantasy.

[lancehoch]

Regarding wicked (part 2)

Since wicked "stepped down" last Thursday she has actively been encouraging and enabling the creation of the multiple accounts that have trolled the forums and live chat over the last week. Neither reasoning nor warning has shown any sign of convicing her to move on and enjoy Conquer Club.

Wicked has now been caught red-handed spreading secret information about how to bypass some of our security methods regarding multiple accounts. Not only is this a glaring breach of an agreement which she has signed, it is evidence that she is out to damage Conquer Club itself and not just hurt those individuals she has grievances with. If our Rule #1 enforcement techniques become common knowledge, there will be much more cheating and it will seriously hurt everyone's enjoyment of this game.

To protect Conquer Club and your gaming experience I have taken swift action: I banned her account and instructed her to back off immediately or face legal consequences.

What a shame it had to come to this.

Sorry KLOBBER, you are wrong here.

[KLOBBER]

Lack has wisely only given a bare minimum of details to the general public (that means you, Lancehoch).

Thank you for posting the above, however, as everyone on the site knows that this means that Wicked was caught red-handed as one of the guilty parties in the well-known upsurge of cheating that occurred right around the time of her firing and banishment.

I appreciate you going to the trouble to research the facts in this case, and post them here in order to prove my point regarding Wicked's cheating.

In addition to the information not given out to the general public, I have access to data on Wicked's member harassment, stalking, and gross abuse of authority, as well as additional detailed information on her cheating (which CC Admin also wisely decided not to divulge to the general public).

I will be using this detailed data, not against Wicked, as she is already gone, but against her cheating accomplices, in my upcoming formal report.

By the way, Lancehoch, I find it interesting that you stated in another thread, right before locking it, that you think that you are one of the cheaters to whom I refer, even though I did not mention you by name in that thread as a cheater.

This position of yours, offered spontaneously, is very telling.

[Curmudgeonx]

In addition to the information not given out to the general public, I have access to data on Wicked's member harassment, stalking, and gross abuse of authority, as well as additional detailed information on her cheating (which CC Admin also wisely decided not to divulge to the general public).

I will be using this detailed data, not against Wicked, as she is already gone, but against her cheating accomplices, in my upcoming formal report.

The long awaited "Warren Commission Report" of ConquerClub! Please do not keep us in suspense any further! You have made unverifiable claims in the past regarding this vast database of insider information. I am sure that moderators such as Lance would be fascinated by your disclosures and how you obtained this information. Do tell!

[KLOBBER]

I will.

[Curmudgeonx]

I will.

You have promised in the past to publish this great work. Since you have days between turns in games with newbies, you should have ample time to finalize this opus.

[KLOBBER]

Thank you for your opinion, and for the time you have so graciously afforded me.

[jiminski]

Thank you for your opinion, and for the time you have so graciously afforded me.

i am really looking forward to the report too Klobbs.
Please get it out as soon as you can to prevent any further cheating!

[KLOBBER]

I plan to, Jimmy.

For the time being, Lack's action has gone a long way towards that purpose, however, as has my request to the other two cheating mods to refrain from entering any more of my games.

[Curmudgeonx]

I plan to, Jimmy.

For the time being, Lack's action has gone a long way towards that purpose, however, as has my request to the other two cheating mods to refrain from entering any more of my games.

So just for my clarification Klobber, is abusing the system the same as cheating?


In your example, you can't put mods on the foe list, so technically they are abusing the system by joining games that the creator has publicly noted that he does not desire them to join, and you would call abuse of the system=cheating?

[oVo]

GabonX... that is an amazing amount of hearsay, conjecture and speculation
in the short span of just two posts. The only actual fact that you presented is
"she is gone."

Everything I wrote is 100% verifiable truth. Just because you are unfamiliar with the facts doesn't change them. I've read all the BS flying around this forum for the past two weeks or so. If you would like you can reply to me with what you consider to be "an amazing amount of hearsay, conjecture and speculation" that I wrote in quotations and I'll give you some of the many possible examples of what I'm talking about.

Frankly I don't see how anyone who is familiar with the issue can object to what I wrote.

100% verifiable truth? That it may be, but it has not been verified yet. I don't object to what you've said because you have every right to state "your opinion." But that is exactly what it is, and as you extrapolate on what has been posted it becomes conjecture and speculation... with some personal experience and hearsay tossed in for good measure.

and to some of us, being familiar with her "contribution," it comes as no surprise. conjecture & speculation While she may have(?) spent a significant amount of time on the site to say that she didn't always handle issues well would be the understatement of the year. more conjecture & speculation

She's someone who many players, hearsay as well as now the other moderators,hearsay have found to be impossible to work with" hearsay

I have yet to participate on any forum where some posters didn't have a problem with at least one of the mods.

Chosen one is just upset that wicked is gone. stating the obvious? wicked would still be here had she not tried to ruin the site speculation but due to whatever personality disorder/dissociative disorder hearsay or whatever it is that's wrong with her she's gone fact.

Wicked's actions after her dismissal are untenable and I have no interest in justifying them. I'm just tired of seeing posts that keep reiterating the "opinions" I've already read in an attempt to continually trash someone who isn't even here to respond.

Now we get KLOBBER as the new authority on this subject? If his prior history of unfounded accusations in the Abuse/Cheat Forum is an indication of what's in store for us... it may just top his own defense in embarrassing hilarity, much like when he posted oggiss as a cheat. Sez Klobs, "I still suspect him and I intend to prove it."

Lack has wisely only given a bare minimum of details to the general public (that means you, Lancehoch). are we to believe that Lack gave you the straight skinny?

[...] however, as everyone on the site knows that this means that Wicked was caught red-handed as one of the guilty parties this is speculation & conjecture in the well-known ((?)) upsurge of cheating that occurred right around the time of her firing and banishment. work on your timeline dude

I appreciate you going to the trouble to research the facts in this case, and post them here in order to prove my point regarding Wicked's cheating. he did not prove your point

In addition to the information not given out to the general public, I have access to data on Wicked's member harassment, stalking, and gross abuse of authority she joined your games?, as well as additional detailed information on her cheating she didn't let you win? (which CC Admin also wisely decided not to divulge to the general public). Oh geez Klods, I sure hope this is more conclusive than your past efforts

I will be using this detailed data, not against Wicked, as she is already gone, but against her cheating accomplices, in my upcoming formal report.

Please hurry... the suspense is unbelievable and this forum could use a new source of levity. If you ask him nice, maybe General Quigley can remove his nose from your butt long enough to assist in collecting and presenting all the facts.

[oVo]

anyone hear from Wicked? How is she doing ?

Remember where this thread started klobber? Maybe you can succeed in getting this one locked too.

[KLOBBER]

I plan to, Jimmy.

For the time being, Lack's action has gone a long way towards that purpose, however, as has my request to the other two cheating mods to refrain from entering any more of my games.

So just for my clarification Klobber, is abusing the system the same as cheating?


In your example, you can't put mods on the foe list, so technically they are abusing the system by joining games that the creator has publicly noted that he does not desire them to join, and you would call abuse of the system=cheating?

How do you mean?

[Curmudgeonx]

I plan to, Jimmy.

For the time being, Lack's action has gone a long way towards that purpose, however, as has my request to the other two cheating mods to refrain from entering any more of my games.

So just for my clarification Klobber, is abusing the system the same as cheating?


In your example, you can't put mods on the foe list, so technically they are abusing the system by joining games that the creator has publicly noted that he does not desire them to join, and you would call abuse of the system=cheating?

How do you mean?

A. You called certain mods cheaters
B. My example showed how, based on your previous posts in Cheating and Abuse, that you felt certain mods were abusing the system.
C. My question based upon this was whether in general that abusing the system is the same as cheating.

I don't know how I can make it plainer.

[lancehoch]

Remember where this thread started klobber? Maybe you can succeed in getting this one locked too.

I swear oVo is prophetic. Locked. KLOBBER, if you would like to accuse someone of cheating, please post a thread here or make an e-ticket here. If you would like to continue on your current rant please post here. Move along now, nothing to see.