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Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:52 am
by TheProwler
danodukebb wrote:
JACKAZZTJM wrote:mcain whooped obamas ass u guys are so liberal u cant admit it obama is the stuttering fool all
check the polls following the debate idiot
The average American is not too bright. That's part of the problem.

And no matter how stupid or smart you , and informed or misinformed you are, you get ONE VOTE. What a flawed system. I know it's like that in every democracy. But I really think that you should have to write a screening test to demonstrate that you are informed on the issues and that you understand both parties stances before you get to place your vote.

That's a little bit off on a tangent...

But Dano, I know you like popularity contests and you place a lot of value in what the majority of people think. But the majority of people make bad choices. Part of the discussion here is to try to determine what choice is a good choice. JACKAZZTJM made a valid point. Possibly some of the people here are so set in their liberal ways, that they are not thinking about things with an open mind.

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:56 am
by TheProwler
Capt Killroy wrote:i'll tell you all one thing if obama wins he better have a few armor plated suits made for his ass
cause some crazy s.o.b will take a pop shot at him for sure
shit one dude thought ronald Reagan was the devil because his first middle and last name each had 6 letters in it
so if he is are new president some crazy will come out of the wood work
Making plans already Capt. K?

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:56 am
by Spuzzell
TheProwler wrote:
danodukebb wrote:
JACKAZZTJM wrote:mcain whooped obamas ass u guys are so liberal u cant admit it obama is the stuttering fool all
check the polls following the debate idiot
The average American is not too bright. That's part of the problem.

And no matter how stupid or smart you , and informed or misinformed you are, you get ONE VOTE. What a flawed system. I know it's like that in every democracy. But I really think that you should have to write a screening test to demonstrate that you are informed on the issues and that you understand both parties stances before you get to place your vote.

That's a little bit off on a tangent...

But Dano, I know you like popularity contests and you place a lot of value in what the majority of people think. But the majority of people make bad choices. Part of the discussion here is to try to determine what choice is a good choice. JACKAZZTJM made a valid point. Possibly some of the people here are so set in their liberal ways, that they are not thinking about things with an open mind.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Conservative, which equates to a Republican. I'm very much not liberal, as you use the term.

I don't trust or like Obama in particular, as I've said before I see him as a charming nonentity swayed almost entirely by other peoples perceptions like Tony Blair, but he's far and away a better choice than any administration containing Palin. Everything I read about her scares me a little more.

I'd much rather have America as the leading influence on the planet than China or Russia, and the next presidency will have a huge impact on whether or not that happens. If it's a Palin dominated White House I fear that an isolationist US will be hated and ignored, with appalling consequences for us all.

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:32 am
by black elk speaks
Spuzzell wrote:I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Conservative, which equates to a Republican. I'm very much not liberal, as you use the term.

I don't trust or like Obama in particular, as I've said before I see him as a charming nonentity swayed almost entirely by other peoples perceptions like Tony Blair, but he's far and away a better choice than any administration containing Palin. Everything I read about her scares me a little more.

I'd much rather have America as the leading influence on the planet than China or Russia, and the next presidency will have a huge impact on whether or not that happens. If it's a Palin dominated White House I fear that an isolationist US will be hated and ignored, with appalling consequences for us all.
Then you should put your vote into the libertarian party. tell all your friends that feel the same way as you do. make it serious business to put that point in the minds of as many people as you can and make it a point to get people to think real hard about what they want their government to become in the next term. we need a less intrusive foreign policy, we need energy independence and we need border control. republicrats have our constitution basically in shreds. Its time to change things, but for real this time.

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:35 am
by DaGip
Spuzzell wrote:
TheProwler wrote:
danodukebb wrote:
JACKAZZTJM wrote:mcain whooped obamas ass u guys are so liberal u cant admit it obama is the stuttering fool all
check the polls following the debate idiot
The average American is not too bright. That's part of the problem.

And no matter how stupid or smart you , and informed or misinformed you are, you get ONE VOTE. What a flawed system. I know it's like that in every democracy. But I really think that you should have to write a screening test to demonstrate that you are informed on the issues and that you understand both parties stances before you get to place your vote.

That's a little bit off on a tangent...

But Dano, I know you like popularity contests and you place a lot of value in what the majority of people think. But the majority of people make bad choices. Part of the discussion here is to try to determine what choice is a good choice. JACKAZZTJM made a valid point. Possibly some of the people here are so set in their liberal ways, that they are not thinking about things with an open mind.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Conservative, which equates to a Republican. I'm very much not liberal, as you use the term.

I don't trust or like Obama in particular, as I've said before I see him as a charming nonentity swayed almost entirely by other peoples perceptions like Tony Blair, but he's far and away a better choice than any administration containing Palin. Everything I read about her scares me a little more.

I'd much rather have America as the leading influence on the planet than China or Russia, and the next presidency will have a huge impact on whether or not that happens. If it's a Palin dominated White House I fear that an isolationist US will be hated and ignored, with appalling consequences for us all.
You poor, pathetic, humans. You know not what the future holds or what evil cabal has gripped your minds.

First off, your Democracy.

So valuable to you, like a fragile flower that must be watered. But, alas, your flower is withering away. The petals have paved the asphalt for Wall Street, and yet you all act like cattle. "Mooo! Mooooo! Steal from us! Please! Then send us off to slaughter! What can we do about it? We are but only lowly cattle! Mooo! Mooo! Mooooooo!"

You are so captivated by your greed and want that your little pea-brained minds see nothing else. You vote for whomever the most greedy, nasty, dirty, scummy elitists WANT you to vote for. It has nothing to do with the issues.

Here are the greedy, nasty, dirty, scummy, elitist issues that will be forced on you (or already have been):

DESTROY AMERICA
RESURRECT WORLD LEAGUE OF DEMOCRATIC NATIONS
ENSLAVE WORLD RESOURCES
PERFECT IMMORTALITY
KILL OFF POPULATION OF WORLD TO SUIT 500 MILLION PEOPLE ONLY
FOCUS THE NEXT AGE ON INTERPLANETARY COLONIZATIONS IMMEDIATELY

If you think you will be part of the 500 Million...think again. That number will only include the biggest big wigs on the planet and their friends and family of which they choose to make slaves. If you ain't a friend or family member of Rockefeller, than you are going away! Burned into ashes from the created Apocalypse. Your remnants at the mercy of the Illuminanti.

The Queen of England will survive with her slaves into the next Age. America is a toss up, it must first be purged of insurgents.

Those insurgents will love their country, their people, their Constitution, freedom, and Liberty! They will be despised by vultures that perch and stare, waiting for the carcasses to satisfy their watering maws of ill spoken promises and lies of a better life and future.

Your future is in the hands of the AntiLuns. When will you open your eyes and clean out your ears? Your lives are meaningless except for the soul purpose of being lead by selfishly motivated lizardmen of the vilest sort.

The path is clear for this nation...nuclear holocaust.

Rained down on you by China and Russia--with the help of Palestine. Your lands will be burned. Your crops will not grow. You will starve and your throats will be parched. You shall die a horrid, choking death.

Meanwhile, the AntiLuns will be eating BBQ ribs and dancing to blues music.

Foolish, foolish, mortals.

You will never learn! Ignorance is your abode and that is where you need to make your home.

LONG LIVE THE ANTILUNS!

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:40 am
by Frigidus
DaGip wrote:
Spuzzell wrote:
TheProwler wrote:
danodukebb wrote:
JACKAZZTJM wrote:mcain whooped obamas ass u guys are so liberal u cant admit it obama is the stuttering fool all
check the polls following the debate idiot
The average American is not too bright. That's part of the problem.

And no matter how stupid or smart you , and informed or misinformed you are, you get ONE VOTE. What a flawed system. I know it's like that in every democracy. But I really think that you should have to write a screening test to demonstrate that you are informed on the issues and that you understand both parties stances before you get to place your vote.

That's a little bit off on a tangent...

But Dano, I know you like popularity contests and you place a lot of value in what the majority of people think. But the majority of people make bad choices. Part of the discussion here is to try to determine what choice is a good choice. JACKAZZTJM made a valid point. Possibly some of the people here are so set in their liberal ways, that they are not thinking about things with an open mind.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Conservative, which equates to a Republican. I'm very much not liberal, as you use the term.

I don't trust or like Obama in particular, as I've said before I see him as a charming nonentity swayed almost entirely by other peoples perceptions like Tony Blair, but he's far and away a better choice than any administration containing Palin. Everything I read about her scares me a little more.

I'd much rather have America as the leading influence on the planet than China or Russia, and the next presidency will have a huge impact on whether or not that happens. If it's a Palin dominated White House I fear that an isolationist US will be hated and ignored, with appalling consequences for us all.
You poor, pathetic, humans. You know not what the future holds or what evil cabal has gripped your minds.

First off, your Democracy.

So valuable to you, like a fragile flower that must be watered. But, alas, your flower is withering away. The petals have paved the asphalt for Wall Street, and yet you all act like cattle. "Mooo! Mooooo! Steal from us! Please! Then send us off to slaughter! What can we do about it? We are but only lowly cattle! Mooo! Mooo! Mooooooo!"

You are so captivated by your greed and want that your little pea-brained minds see nothing else. You vote for whomever the most greedy, nasty, dirty, scummy elitists WANT you to vote for. It has nothing to do with the issues.

Here are the greedy, nasty, dirty, scummy, elitist issues that will be forced on you (or already have been):

DESTROY AMERICA
RESURRECT WORLD LEAGUE OF DEMOCRATIC NATIONS
ENSLAVE WORLD RESOURCES
PERFECT IMMORTALITY
KILL OFF POPULATION OF WORLD TO SUIT 500 MILLION PEOPLE ONLY
FOCUS THE NEXT AGE ON INTERPLANETARY COLONIZATIONS IMMEDIATELY

If you think you will be part of the 500 Million...think again. That number will only include the biggest big wigs on the planet and their friends and family of which they choose to make slaves. If you ain't a friend or family member of Rockefeller, than you are going away! Burned into ashes from the created Apocalypse. Your remnants at the mercy of the Illuminanti.

The Queen of England will survive with her slaves into the next Age. America is a toss up, it must first be purged of insurgents.

Those insurgents will love their country, their people, their Constitution, freedom, and Liberty! They will be despised by vultures that perch and stare, waiting for the carcasses to satisfy their watering maws of ill spoken promises and lies of a better life and future.

Your future is in the hands of the AntiLuns. When will you open your eyes and clean out your ears? Your lives are meaningless except for the soul purpose of being lead by selfishly motivated lizardmen of the vilest sort.

The path is clear for this nation...nuclear holocaust.

Rained down on you by China and Russia--with the help of Palestine. Your lands will be burned. Your crops will not grow. You will starve and your throats will be parched. You shall die a horrid, choking death.

Meanwhile, the AntiLuns will be eating BBQ ribs and dancing to blues music.

Foolish, foolish, mortals.

You will never learn! Ignorance is your abode and that is where you need to make your home.

LONG LIVE THE ANTILUNS!
DaGip is an excellent thread killer.

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:56 am
by black elk speaks
^^ yeah, I thought dagip was better than this crap. My bad.

Re: obama mccain debate

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:25 pm
by TheProwler
Spuzzell wrote:I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Conservative, which equates to a Republican. I'm very much not liberal, as you use the term.

I don't trust or like Obama in particular, as I've said before I see him as a charming nonentity swayed almost entirely by other peoples perceptions like Tony Blair, but he's far and away a better choice than any administration containing Palin. Everything I read about her scares me a little more.

I'd much rather have America as the leading influence on the planet than China or Russia, and the next presidency will have a huge impact on whether or not that happens. If it's a Palin dominated White House I fear that an isolationist US will be hated and ignored, with appalling consequences for us all.
So....either a bad choice for President, or a bad choice for Vice President...

I'd go with the Good President, Bad Vice President combo...

I don't trust Palin either...but I think people (others in the administration) will realize that she doesn't have a lot of substance and she won't be a powerful VP. I watched some interviews with her and I think she is a good example of how the system doesn't work - she is just a big talker who tries to make people like her. She is not a direct, honest person. But because it is the emotional, uninformed public that gets to place these people in power, she is where she is. The decision to put her in the running is the biggest concern I have with McCain...

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:22 pm
by tranquill
It's interesting how the Israelis view Obama. He receives much support
both from Jewish liberals and arguably the right-wing AIPAC, but his
middle name bothers Israelis a lot. Also, there are doubts whether he is
really a Muslim apostate. Here is an article which analyzes Obama's
similarity to early Zionists:
http://samsonblinded.org/blog/obama-aga ... shness.htm What do you think of the parallels?