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Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:28 pm**

retrocrush wrote:There's no lawsuit. I bet they just got a cease and desist letter and panicked.

Ironic . . .

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:29 pm**

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:30 pm**

Mighty Warrior wrote:These new dice really sucks...it's a bad idea to create numbered dice for dumbs. I still don't understand this change. A dice is a dice. As a card game, you cannot change the King by the number 13 !!!! Totally disagree with the new change.

A die is a die...

I'm blue (if I were green I would die)

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:31 pm**

Mighty Warrior wrote:These new dice really sucks...it's a bad idea to create numbered dice for dumbs. I still don't understand this change. A dice is a dice. As a card game, you cannot change the King by the number 13 !!!! Totally disagree with the new change.

But it is shiny, precioussss.... You wouldn't want to little golden rings surrounding those green dice to go away, would you? Twill big red eye is watching you, a few more comments like that and those dice will start been tipped against you.

I don't know, but the new dice have been against me for some reason, lost 2 games because of them. won 1, but still...

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:33 pm**

blame canada

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:34 pm**

jiminski wrote:
mandyb wrote:This can't be a last minute thing - surely we should have been informed of the change beforehand. I'm sure, with time, the map makers could make something a lot closer to the original without it causing any copyright problems.
I mean....it's classic! It doesn't even resemble a map anymore; more like some chemistry formula!

Is it seriously going to stay like that or is it just temporary 'till something more suitable is made?
If it is temporary that is not so bad.... please talk to us and keep us better informed CC.

When it is a legal issue, they will have to be very careful about what they say publicly.

I doubt that they don't want to tell us. But I think that their lawyers will want to approve any public statements.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:39 pm**

Robinette wrote:

QFT

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:40 pm**

we should replace it with a video of Never Gonna Give You Up.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:43 pm**

Holy sh*t......This thread has barely slowed down since I was on early this afternoon....Not quite 1 post/5 seconds, but still.....This must be the CC equivalent of riots in the streets

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:44 pm**

TheProwler wrote:
jiminski wrote:
mandyb wrote:This can't be a last minute thing - surely we should have been informed of the change beforehand. I'm sure, with time, the map makers could make something a lot closer to the original without it causing any copyright problems.
I mean....it's classic! It doesn't even resemble a map anymore; more like some chemistry formula!

Is it seriously going to stay like that or is it just temporary 'till something more suitable is made?
If it is temporary that is not so bad.... please talk to us and keep us better informed CC.
When it is a legal issue, they will have to be very careful about what they say publicly.

I doubt that they don't want to tell us. But I think that their lawyers will want to approve any public statements.

hah you may well be correct but if that is the case even those words would have been good.
we are media savvy and used to such mantra's. they can come and sit with us in allegiance, even if they can not furnish us with detail.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:44 pm**

fantasianasian wrote:blame canada

Doncha wanna fanta, doncha wanna fanta $\:D/$ Sorry everytime I see your name...I dance!

So we blame Canada instead of evil toy companies?!

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:45 pm**

n00blet wrote:Holy sh*t......This thread has barely slowed down since I was on early this afternoon....Not quite 1 post/5 seconds, but still.....This must be the CC equivalent of riots in the streets

Sadly I've been here the entire time

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:46 pm**

Robinette wrote:

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:46 pm**

The Neon Peon wrote:
delahoc wrote:
spiesr wrote: I just figured it out!
They are tired of someone else making money off of what is nearly identical to a game they won. They made a legal move. Lack a doesn't want to go to court. It doesn't matter weather or not they would win. The site must be made more different from risk so that wont happen.
Good to see you've finally caught up (at least part way) with the rest of us.

Nevertheless, my point remains - there was nothing in the changes that were made that Hasbro can lay claim to. The only possible claim is in the gameplay - and that remains in all of the other maps as is.
As was discussed before, LACK DOES NOT WANT TO GO TO COURT, especially over such a petty issue that will still cost him a heck of a lot of money even if he does win. Better to change the site to their wishes rather than give them are better case to work with in case they were serious about copyright infringement.

While it may seem petty to him, there are plenty of people in this very large community that obviously don't like the changes. What made it worse was the admin's course of action: to leave a little puny message for us: "oh by the way, we changed the site up a bit. thanks!" and not to have consulted representatives of the community. That's like going to war with a country without asking for the UN's permission XD

But seriously, if we want to talk about money, then I agree, litigation would cost a ton, but I would argue that continuing on the current course will be more costly for Lack. Not only will he lose a LOT of premium members, he will lose players altogether who won't even play for free, he will lose the respect of a lot of people, but also the trust of many dedicated members who have devoted time and energy to CC. It's a question of which is worth more to him.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:47 pm**

guys, i believe everything will be okay. have faith. good to see you guys around. lots of familiar faces. i haven't been playing much lately but, came today & saw the new stuff.

my son plays now. " MYNIS1 " those who know me should play him. good player. he's already made LT.

regards to all

RD

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:50 pm**

Hasbro is a big company with a team of lawyers who could sue the shit out of anyone who looks at the cross eyed if they felt like it. Right or wrong doesn't come into play when they could just drag it out in court until the other side yells uncle. You would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. Anyway, be thankful the CC guys didn't just say **** it and shut the whole damn site down.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:53 pm**

This is obviously a trying time for the members of the site. To help I've compiled a glossary to ease the transition for everyone.

Risk--------------------------------------------------->CC
Standard Board-------------------------------------->Classic~
Middle Earth----------------------------------------->Centerscape
Dice (Die)-------------------------------------------->Intensity Cube(s)
Territory--------------------------------------------->Region
Continent-------------------------------------------->Zone
Cards------------------------------------------------->Spoils
Attack------------------------------------------------>Assault
Fortify------------------------------------------------>Reinforce
Cash Cards------------------------------------------->Realize Paper Gains
Team Game------------------------------------------>Match of Agreed Upon Partnerships
Set---------------------------------------------------->3 Units of Spoil That Are Either Similar or Dissimilar Enough to Merit a Bonus

I'm sure I've missed some stuff, but its a start.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:53 pm**

RecklessB wrote:Hasbro is a big company with a team of lawyers who could sue the shit out of anyone who looks at the cross eyed if they felt like it. Right or wrong doesn't come into play when they could just drag it out in court until the other side yells uncle. You would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. Anyway, be thankful the CC guys didn't just say **** it and shut the whole damn site down.

I think that'd be too much work

And they'd get a lot more chaotic riots than just this thread.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:55 pm**

PepperJack wrote:This is obviously a trying time for the members of the site. To help I've compiled a glossary to ease the transition for everyone.

Risk--------------------------------------------------->CC
Standard Board-------------------------------------->Classic~
Middle Earth----------------------------------------->Centerscape
Dice (Die)-------------------------------------------->Intensity Cube(s)
Territory--------------------------------------------->Region
Continent-------------------------------------------->Zone
Cards------------------------------------------------->Spoils
Attack------------------------------------------------>Assault
Fortify------------------------------------------------>Reinforce
Cash Cards------------------------------------------->Realize Paper Gains
Team Game------------------------------------------>Match of Agreed Upon Partnerships
Set---------------------------------------------------->3 Units of Spoil That Are Either Similar or Dissimilar Enough to Merit a Bonus

I'm sure I've missed some stuff, but its a start.

This list makes me cry..... stand back I might assault someone with my spoils

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:56 pm**

I am not worried about lack. Firstly, too many of you that are threatening to quit are way too addicted to go through with your threats. (you know it's true). Secondly, new members coming to the site won't mind the dice, since they did not see the originals.
They will also probably not care about that the middle earth map is gone either, since they will have never seen it.
They will also not mind that the feedback system is gone, since they never used it.
They will also not care that it says "reinforce" instead of "fortify" and that is says "no spoils" instead of "no cards" since they will have never gotten used the the original to begin with.

Lack will not suffer from this. Although, I would suggest he hold off from any more big changes for a month or two (other than the things already on the *to do* list) to let the people cool down from this crazy week here.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:57 pm**

Without going through 60 pages, anyone know if this is a temporary solution- perhaps they are in the process of revamping the map ?

There have always been revamp issues/ talks... perhaps this will be a good change if the map gets redone anyhow.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:59 pm**

Scott-Land wrote:Without going through 60 pages, anyone know if this is a temporary solution- perhaps they are in the process of revamping the map ?

There will be a revamp in the foundry "soon" for the two maps that have been changed. The current change was a quick-fix made to avoid legal issues

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:59 pm**

It's kinda ironic that a big company like Hasbro with all their resources could not make a decent online Risk game.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:59 pm**

PepperJack wrote:This is obviously a trying time for the members of the site. To help I've compiled a glossary to ease the transition for everyone.

Risk--------------------------------------------------->CC
Standard Board-------------------------------------->Classic~
Middle Earth----------------------------------------->Centerscape
Dice (Die)-------------------------------------------->Intensity Cube(s)
Territory--------------------------------------------->Region
Continent-------------------------------------------->Zone
Cards------------------------------------------------->Spoils
Attack------------------------------------------------>Assault
Fortify------------------------------------------------>Reinforce
Cash Cards------------------------------------------->Realize Paper Gains
Team Game------------------------------------------>Match of Agreed Upon Partnerships
Set---------------------------------------------------->3 Units of Spoil That Are Either Similar or Dissimilar Enough to Merit a Bonus

I'm sure I've missed some stuff, but its a start.

Spoils is not quite right i think.... maybe BOOTY would be better.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:00 pm**

The Neon Peon wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Without going through 60 pages, anyone know if this is a temporary solution- perhaps they are in the process of revamping the map ?
There will be a revamp in the foundry "soon" for the two maps that have been changed. The current change was a quick-fix made to avoid legal issues

As I thought, a blessing in disguise then. It needed a revamp anyhow and this will only quicken the process. For the love of Zeus, why all the commotion? Get a grip people !

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