Conquer Club

woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Stupid shit up there, just saying. We hang ghostly. IDGAF what he has to say, but if claimed night actions call guilty, they MUST be proven.

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Are you kidding me right now? Why would I fakeclaim to save a scumbuddy in order to kill someone I don't even know the official role of if we were mafia? Obviously SW and I would be dead in the next day if this was a lie. This also in no way clears SW he could be mafia as well. All I'm saying is I am a busdriver and I switched ghostly and SW so the mafia result that you got last night came from ghostly not SW. I sure hope the rest of the players in this game have more sense then you because either you're being stupid right now or your role somehow has a connection to ghostly that you're not telling us about.

kratos644 wrote:

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Are you kidding me right now? Why would I fakeclaim to save a scumbuddy in order to kill someone I don't even know the official role of if we were mafia? Obviously SW and I would be dead in the next day if this was a lie. This also in no way clears SW he could be mafia as well. All I'm saying is I am a busdriver and I switched ghostly and SW so the mafia result that you got last night came from ghostly not SW. I sure hope the rest of the players in this game have more sense then you because either you're being stupid right now or your role somehow has a connection to ghostly that you're not telling us about.

EBWOP
And I assume it's the first option that you're just being stupid... Anyway the only possibility that would leave SW to be the one that is actually the mafia here is if I got role blocked but really what are the odds that you investigated SW I attempted to switch SW and ghostly but I was also role blocked? The odds of you investigating SW while I was switching him with someone else who was mafia were slim enough but that other scenario I highly doubt

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Not relevant. Either lynch will tell us what truly happened. As it stands, the ghostly lynch is the best way to test your claim.

The vehemence of your hesitation is... well, it doesn't sit right with me.

was going to vote for Ghostly, but realized that he already was att L-3, so i guess i will wait for the accused to speak before taking furture actions

Oh I came up Mafia did I? No body move I am going to make a big post. You will know why when I post.

kratos644 wrote:Wait wait wait!!! I need to claim as well now it would appear. I am Pelipper Town Busdriver and my night action was to switch SW and ghostly so guess what that means.
Vote Ghostly

you know what this means right?

1) you clear yourself from being highly likely mafia to useful town, at least for 1 day/night, and as long as your act lasts, you can claim to have swapped whoever you like with whoever you like for the desired effect.
2) if ghostly turns out town, we're unsure if we need to blame you or blame S7C, saving you time.
3) if ghostly turns out mafia, you sacrifice one mafia to save two.
4) you even have a 'i might got roleblocked' excuse. (which you allready used)
5) it could even be a far more complicated plot of you and S7C, as S7C could frame someone as being a cop-guilty to immediatly draw all attention to it, than you stir up confusion to have a safety-net for S7C in the likely case his claim is false, and you can steer the discussion towards anyone you want, than get a nightkill, and than blame each other for the confusion. one of you may fall with one or two nights delay, but you'll have at least 1 (+1 nightkill) targeted kill and likely even more. saving you lots of time and effectively not only cleaning up key targets, but also stirring up confusion. (just a possibility, however unlikely)

all in all, there's little evidence we can go on, and it has major results in your advantage either way. it's a pretty save and solid claim. i'm not saying it is a false claim per se, it's just "convenient"

seems like a pretty solid win-win, if only to buy yourself some time.

(P.S. i'm not sure if i am allowed to talk about my last role, so i won't do that until i get some info on that.)

kratos644 wrote:

kratos644 wrote:

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

Are you kidding me right now? Why would I fakeclaim to save a scumbuddy in order to kill someone I don't even know the official role of if we were mafia? Obviously SW and I would be dead in the next day if this was a lie. This also in no way clears SW he could be mafia as well. All I'm saying is I am a busdriver and I switched ghostly and SW so the mafia result that you got last night came from ghostly not SW. I sure hope the rest of the players in this game have more sense then you because either you're being stupid right now or your role somehow has a connection to ghostly that you're not telling us about.

EBWOP
And I assume it's the first option that you're just being stupid... Anyway the only possibility that would leave SW to be the one that is actually the mafia here is if I got role blocked but really what are the odds that you investigated SW I attempted to switch SW and ghostly but I was also role blocked? The odds of you investigating SW while I was switching him with someone else who was mafia were slim enough but that other scenario I highly doubt

Doom tells you if you get roleblocked too. Beyond that, there could be mafia busdriver shenanigans (victor), but given ghostlys post that seems, veeeerrry unlikely.

Alright guys. I had to make this big post because I claim:

Uesugi Kenshin, Feuded Daimyo of Kai.

Every night I choose one player to invesigate. If I find my rival Takeda Shingen (Already did last night, Zimmah) then I kill him. To win, we could not survive together. but I am a Survivor. I chose the pokemon Mew to guide me.

Okay now. I must make a big post, because you need a reason to keep the survivor:

I called VS out with metagaming (I will get the post quote if you want)
I called SW out in the beginning (Obvious enough)
I called Kratos out in the beginning (Who is now obviously lying which you can see with my claim)
I believe that PCM is the last mafia (Because he is not one to ill-logically go with the BW without a defense like this)
And I will give more input with other scum should there be a chance of anyone else if you choose to keep me.

My point of the big post was to prove Kratos is wrong, still in town favor, and I am obviously hunting for scum in the favor of town. I have no more night action since I found my enemy. And I am still scum hunting. I am clearly trying my best to help the town. I know that Town normally doesnt allow for Survivors to live, but there are a few reasons why I should be allowed to live:

SW and Kratos are obviously mafia (Lets even go back to where SW tried to clear them both. If niether are affiliated becuase they dont know town players, how can they clear each other? Plus Clever obviously got a guilty on SW so that connect him and kratos.). That is 2 better lynch candidates than myself.
PCM is immediately (IMO) connected because of his strong defense of both of these players.

So guys. I hope you can see it how I see it. I am now a full blown survivor, and there are obviously 2 better lynch candidates than myself. I think thats about it.

zimmah wrote:

kratos644 wrote:Wait wait wait!!! I need to claim as well now it would appear. I am Pelipper Town Busdriver and my night action was to switch SW and ghostly so guess what that means.
Vote Ghostly

you know what this means right?

1) you clear yourself from being highly likely mafia to useful town, at least for 1 day/night, and as long as your act lasts, you can claim to have swapped whoever you like with whoever you like for the desired effect.
2) if ghostly turns out town, we're unsure if we need to blame you or blame S7C, saving you time.
3) if ghostly turns out mafia, you sacrifice one mafia to save two.
4) you even have a 'i might got roleblocked' excuse. (which you allready used)
5) it could even be a far more complicated plot of you and S7C, as S7C could frame someone as being a cop-guilty to immediatly draw all attention to it, than you stir up confusion to have a safety-net for S7C in the likely case his claim is false, and you can steer the discussion towards anyone you want, than get a nightkill, and than blame each other for the confusion. one of you may fall with one or two nights delay, but you'll have at least 1 (+1 nightkill) targeted kill and likely even more. saving you lots of time and effectively not only cleaning up key targets, but also stirring up confusion. (just a possibility, however unlikely)

all in all, there's little evidence we can go on, and it has major results in your advantage either way. it's a pretty save and solid claim. i'm not saying it is a false claim per se, it's just "convenient"

seems like a pretty solid win-win, if only to buy yourself some time.

(P.S. i'm not sure if i am allowed to talk about my last role, so i won't do that until i get some info on that.)

thanks for this post. but i would like to point out that if he does use option 4 i will not hestitate in lynching him. he has already said the odds of that happening is slim to none. therefore if he tries to fall back on that he will contradict himself. oh and if doom says your roleblocked then that rules that out. if anyone was roleblocked can they say if they were told or not.

fastposted-ill read and then post about that...mess of whatever

ghostly447 wrote:Alright guys. I had to make this big post because I claim:

Uesugi Kenshin, Feuded Daimyo of Kai.

Every night I choose one player to invesigate. If I find my rival Takeda Shingen (Already did last night, Zimmah) then I kill him. To win, we could not survive together. but I am a Survivor. I chose the pokemon Mew to guide me.

Okay now. I must make a big post, because you need a reason to keep the survivor:

I called VS out with metagaming (I will get the post quote if you want)
I called SW out in the beginning (Obvious enough)
I called Kratos out in the beginning (Who is now obviously lying which you can see with my claim)
I believe that PCM is the last mafia (Because he is not one to ill-logically go with the BW without a defense like this)
And I will give more input with other scum should there be a chance of anyone else if you choose to keep me.

My point of the big post was to prove Kratos is wrong, still in town favor, and I am obviously hunting for scum in the favor of town. I have no more night action since I found my enemy. And I am still scum hunting. I am clearly trying my best to help the town. I know that Town normally doesnt allow for Survivors to live, but there are a few reasons why I should be allowed to live:

SW and Kratos are obviously mafia (Lets even go back to where SW tried to clear them both. If niether are affiliated becuase they dont know town players, how can they clear each other? Plus Clever obviously got a guilty on SW so that connect him and kratos.). That is 2 better lynch candidates than myself.
PCM is immediately (IMO) connected because of his strong defense of both of these players.

So guys. I hope you can see it how I see it. I am now a full blown survivor, and there are obviously 2 better lynch candidates than myself. I think thats about it.

Your conclusions on Kratos and SW are bad. In the so Dumb its frustrating to even discuss sort of fashion. Scum don't cover for each other like that, if there is a guilty you just run the other way, because it's only a mater of time till its game over for them.

So Mew is a player here I assume? And now affiliated with you?

Also, you jump on PCM. You got guiltied FFS, case closed, you just shut up and vote. Perhaps you are what you claim. (quite likely imo) however you are not going to be considered a town asset if all you are going to do in your defense is omgus your attackers.

If you had any intentions of helping the town, you also would have told us who your pokemon is.

ghostly447 wrote:Alright guys. I had to make this big post because I claim:

Uesugi Kenshin, Feuded Daimyo of Kai.

Every night I choose one player to invesigate. If I find my rival Takeda Shingen (Already did last night, Zimmah) then I kill him. To win, we could not survive together. but I am a Survivor. I chose the pokemon Mew to guide me.

Okay now. I must make a big post, because you need a reason to keep the survivor:

I called VS out with metagaming (I will get the post quote if you want)
I called SW out in the beginning (Obvious enough)
I called Kratos out in the beginning (Who is now obviously lying which you can see with my claim)
I believe that PCM is the last mafia (Because he is not one to ill-logically go with the BW without a defense like this)
And I will give more input with other scum should there be a chance of anyone else if you choose to keep me.

My point of the big post was to prove Kratos is wrong, still in town favor, and I am obviously hunting for scum in the favor of town. I have no more night action since I found my enemy. And I am still scum hunting. I am clearly trying my best to help the town. I know that Town normally doesnt allow for Survivors to live, but there are a few reasons why I should be allowed to live:

SW and Kratos are obviously mafia (Lets even go back to where SW tried to clear them both. If niether are affiliated becuase they dont know town players, how can they clear each other? Plus Clever obviously got a guilty on SW so that connect him and kratos.). That is 2 better lynch candidates than myself.
PCM is immediately (IMO) connected because of his strong defense of both of these players.

So guys. I hope you can see it how I see it. I am now a full blown survivor, and there are obviously 2 better lynch candidates than myself. I think thats about it.

you summed it up pretty nicely. and it kinda sucks cause if town does decide to lynch you then you lose lol cause you were supposed to survive and you end up third party then we found mafia and town will win and your not even part of town lol that sucks.

anyway i am not voting ghostly mainly because i am the cop and i got a guilty on strike wolf now lets look at this shall we;

ghostly lynch and he turns up mafia we have one more mafia down. but where do we go after that? i know i have been connected to him the whole game and agreeing with him and sg7 but whats that gonna do? cause if he is mafia i got a proven cop investigation so whats that? possibly one mafia

strike wolf or kratos lynch if one of them turns up mafia then the other is mafia. i really do believe its one of them cause evidence earlier in the game pointed to them. this is why my vote is on strike wolf. even without my guitly result i am sure its one of them. so lets look here if we lynch one of them two possible mafia

now if we choose wrong its not like we cant just go and lynch the other. and IMO ghostly is a better asset to our town winning. the others havent done as much. IF YOUR TOWN YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GET TWO MAFIA INSTEAD OF ONE. but anyway town chooses what town chooses.

fasposted.
mafia doesnt cover for each other? look at hectic eclectic. look at crazy super hero mafia were me and jgordon were mafia and we covered the shit out of each other and we won with none of mafia dying. it is obviously something that mafia does

wow ok. whew! got mafia!

alright, ghostly, I am having a hard time believing your claim because S7C got a MAFIA result (way to go S7C ) and with the busdriving it menas you're MAFIA, not 3rd party fueded dude. Claiming survivor that you did could easily be afakeclaim as you could have found info somewhere and gotten the idea from the scene. I'll see if anyone counterclaims you but i on't think you're telling the whole truth. You said you chose Mew, is that part of your mafia group or another player aligned with you?

and finally you claim VT survivor, easy since we can't deny or confirm your actions in the night anymore.

I srsly doubt that kratos, if he was mafia, would claim town busdriver to save SW, because if their "plan" failed, it would mean the loss of 2 mafia, versus just letting 1 go. So I'm inclined to believe kratos' and S7C's night actions results, and that you're mafia, not 3rd party survivor.

VOTE GHOSTLY

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-SG7 ( )

edocsil wrote:

ghostly447 wrote:Alright guys. I had to make this big post because I claim:

Uesugi Kenshin, Feuded Daimyo of Kai.

Every night I choose one player to invesigate. If I find my rival Takeda Shingen (Already did last night, Zimmah) then I kill him. To win, we could not survive together. but I am a Survivor. I chose the pokemon Mew to guide me.
Okay now. I must make a big post, because you need a reason to keep the survivor:

I called VS out with metagaming (I will get the post quote if you want)
I called SW out in the beginning (Obvious enough)
I called Kratos out in the beginning (Who is now obviously lying which you can see with my claim)
I believe that PCM is the last mafia (Because he is not one to ill-logically go with the BW without a defense like this)
And I will give more input with other scum should there be a chance of anyone else if you choose to keep me.

My point of the big post was to prove Kratos is wrong, still in town favor, and I am obviously hunting for scum in the favor of town. I have no more night action since I found my enemy. And I am still scum hunting. I am clearly trying my best to help the town. I know that Town normally doesnt allow for Survivors to live, but there are a few reasons why I should be allowed to live:

SW and Kratos are obviously mafia (Lets even go back to where SW tried to clear them both. If niether are affiliated becuase they dont know town players, how can they clear each other? Plus Clever obviously got a guilty on SW so that connect him and kratos.). That is 2 better lynch candidates than myself.
PCM is immediately (IMO) connected because of his strong defense of both of these players.

So guys. I hope you can see it how I see it. I am now a full blown survivor, and there are obviously 2 better lynch candidates than myself. I think thats about it.

Your conclusions on Kratos and SW are bad. In the so Dumb its frustrating to even discuss sort of fashion. Scum don't cover for each other like that, if there is a guilty you just run the other way, because it's only a mater of time till its game over for them.

So Mew is a player here I assume? And now affiliated with you?

Also, you jump on PCM. You got guiltied FFS, case closed, you just shut up and vote. Perhaps you are what you claim. (quite likely imo) however you are not going to be considered a town asset if all you are going to do in your defense is omgus your attackers.

If you had any intentions of helping the town, you also would have told us who your pokemon is.

You basically skipped over my entire post edoc..

My conclusions are bad? Let me explain this to you step by step:
S7C got a guilty on SW
Kratos says he switched me and SW saying I am therefore mafia
I am 3rd party survivor =
SW is mafia and Kratos tried to say he switch a 3rd party and gave a mafia result. Kratos is obviously covering for his scum buddy.

I was allows to choose a pokemon. I chose Mew. I did not have a given pokemon.

I had no intention of helping town? I came in, read 50 pages, and gave the following candidates:
SW - Obvious Mafia
Kratos - Obvious Mafia
Zimmah - My own enemy

I am willing to admit I was also wrong about LootenPlunder, but the evidence is clear here.

After that? Yeah, I didnt point out VS as scummy due to not giving us a hint at his pokemon. Oh wait, yes I did.

ghostly447 wrote:Why is everyone going against SG7 and S7C now? What is the logic?

Oh thats right. S7C was inactive hunting. Wow guys, so this is what its come to.

Since we are meta-gaming, I will go ahead and say I think VS is scummy. Though it sucks because he had no given character, normally he would have found some way to have soft claimed by now. Its something that annoys me in his playing technique, but its something that I watch for every game.

Either way, I dont think I will throw my vote anymore. The buck stops here. I know the deadline is near, but its just too damn late in the game. FOS everyone who is pushing for a speedclaim knowing good and well that it will more than likely end in a town claim.

How is it OMGUS when I am the one who came in and made the damn posts and accusations? I didnt OMGUS. Point 3 shot down.

If I had any intention to help town I would claim my pokemon? Here let me get that for you in SOME VERY DARK RED.

Yeah, I will OMGUS you. You are trying to use this pathetic case to defend SW and Kratos who, if you are blind, are obviously scum defending each other. Scum dont cover for each other? View the game "Puss in Boots Mafia" where I was scum, and defended my scum buddy safariguy5 to win the game. Scum help each other when there is a chance. You point is proven invalid. AGAIN.

My conclusion? Well Edoc, you are a respected player in this community. I dont see, with your experience, any other option how you cant see how it is so clear besides if you are also their scum buddy.

Lynch me then guys. Then you will see Kratos and SW. My only other input? The other mafia or SK are more than likely Edoc or PCM. OMGUS? Only half.

Oh, and another thought, yes ghostly is highly active and a valuable asset to town IF he was town. according to night actions he is MAFIA.

And S7C, speculating what which scenario would be best for town doesn't add any evidence to whether this scenario is true or that scenario is true. Yes, wouldn't be great if SW and kratos were both mafia covering for each other? But's that's not usually how it works. You find evidence pointing to one scenario or the other and take that scenario as the valid, true one. If you take the one most beneficial to you as the valid true one solely because it gives you the best advantage, you might have picked the wrong one. Note, this is about CURRENT scenarios as in "which 'truth' is true?", not FUTURE scenarios as in "if I do this, this'll happen." anyway, you get the point

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-SG7 ( )

shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow ok. whew! got mafia!

alright, ghostly, I am having a hard time believing your claim because S7C got a MAFIA result (way to go S7C ) and with the busdriving it menas you're MAFIA, not 3rd party fueded dude. Claiming survivor that you did could easily be afakeclaim as you could have found info somewhere and gotten the idea from the scene. I'll see if anyone counterclaims you but i on't think you're telling the whole truth. You said you chose Mew, is that part of your mafia group or another player aligned with you?

and finally you claim VT survivor, easy since we can't deny or confirm your actions in the night anymore.

I srsly doubt that kratos, if he was mafia, would claim town busdriver to save SW, because if their "plan" failed, it would mean the loss of 2 mafia, versus just letting 1 go. So I'm inclined to believe kratos' and S7C's night actions results, and that you're mafia, not 3rd party survivor.

VOTE GHOSTLY

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-SG7 ( )

Okay dude. Seriously? I mean...Seriously?

Lynch me and then lynch the shit out of the mafia. I dont know how I can make it any more clear for you guys.

Mafia:
SW for sure
Kratos for sure
PCM and Edoc maybe.

Those are my final thoughts. Hopefully the real busdriver will get here soon and help me out. But if he doesnt, then go town.

Fastposted. By the way, that reminds me. I searched PCM night one, and was informed I was roleblocked. When one of these guys tries to use the excuse they were role blocked and not informed, then catch them on it.

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Oh, and another thought, yes ghostly is highly active and a valuable asset to town IF he was town. according to night actions he is MAFIA.

And S7C, speculating what which scenario would be best for town doesn't add any evidence to whether this scenario is true or that scenario is true. Yes, wouldn't be great if SW and kratos were both mafia covering for each other? But's that's not usually how it works. You find evidence pointing to one scenario or the other and take that scenario as the valid, true one. If you take the one most beneficial to you as the valid true one solely because it gives you the best advantage, you might have picked the wrong one. Note, this is about CURRENT scenarios as in "which 'truth' is true?", not FUTURE scenarios as in "if I do this, this'll happen." anyway, you get the point

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-SG7 ( )

well the fact that ghostly has made cases the entire game makes me not want to lynch him. the fact that he pined both of them and they defended each other and we all found it scummy and that was fought and then i get a guilty and look who defends him? none other than kratos. its to likely that they would do this and i dont like it. regardless if we lynch ghost we dont lose town and if he is mafia where would we go from there? i would like strike wolf to claim before ghostly gets lynched that way we have something to go off of. so please noone lynch ghost till strike wolf claims.

ghostly447 wrote:

shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow ok. whew! got mafia!

alright, ghostly, I am having a hard time believing your claim because S7C got a MAFIA result (way to go S7C ) and with the busdriving it menas you're MAFIA, not 3rd party fueded dude. Claiming survivor that you did could easily be afakeclaim as you could have found info somewhere and gotten the idea from the scene. I'll see if anyone counterclaims you but i on't think you're telling the whole truth. You said you chose Mew, is that part of your mafia group or another player aligned with you?

and finally you claim VT survivor, easy since we can't deny or confirm your actions in the night anymore.

I srsly doubt that kratos, if he was mafia, would claim town busdriver to save SW, because if their "plan" failed, it would mean the loss of 2 mafia, versus just letting 1 go. So I'm inclined to believe kratos' and S7C's night actions results, and that you're mafia, not 3rd party survivor.

VOTE GHOSTLY

FASTPOSTED

-SG7 ( )

Okay dude. Seriously? I mean...Seriously?

Lynch me and then lynch the shit out of the mafia. I dont know how I can make it any more clear for you guys.

Mafia:
SW for sure
Kratos for sure
PCM and Edoc maybe.

Those are my final thoughts. Hopefully the real busdriver will get here soon and help me out. But if he doesnt, then go town.

Fastposted. By the way, that reminds me. I searched PCM night one, and was informed I was roleblocked. When one of these guys tries to use the excuse they were role blocked and not informed, then catch them on it.

So while I was thinking last night I came up with one way that all this makes sense (if ghostly isn't mafia) According to ghostly's claim 1 of the night kills would've been from him finding zimmah. So that would mean mafia's 1 night kill was directed at SW and VS used his busdriver ability to switch himself and ghostly and since I switched SW with ghostly the cop investigation actually came from VS and the mafia kill got turned back around at him as well. There's no way to prove this is what happened but given the events that occured last night it would make sense. We also could've just had a doc that protected the mafia kill and a vig/sk who tried to kill VS or SW.

I still see no real harm in lynching ghostly though if he claimed survivor. Worst case scenario we lynch a survivor with no powers best case scenario we get mafia. Personally I hope the above scenario isn't what happened and ghostly is also mafia otherwise we've outed to decent roles and won't get a mafia kill out of it.

Oh dear. Major mod error here. Will pm players privately to deal with it.

I sent some explanations to players. I will neither confirm nor deny the explanations I sent.

Okay in light of new explanations from doom I wasn't "roleblocked" but there was a part of my role that prevented me from switching the two players. So the guilty result did indeed come from SW. So in other words. Unvote, Vote strike wolf

Next is edoc on my personal list. Since if sw flips mafia you are the bus driver.

vote SW

Let me get this straight. Cop investigates SW. Result mafia. Logic = SW is mafia. BD believes he swapped SW with ghostly. Logic = ghostly is mafia. BD is now informed he is "roleblocked". Please see above logic.

I'm not going to speculate whether the claims are real. If SW is town then cop and BD have some questions to answer but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

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ghostly447 wrote:Next is edoc on my personal list. Since if sw flips mafia you are the bus driver.

Well I'm busdriver either way
Mafia had a busdriver too that could have affected the result, but I know what you were saying. If SW flips mafia there is solid evidence that I am what I say I am.