Did you see the Stanford/Oklahoma game yesterday? There were some unbelievable calls
made by the refs on the field and off. Of course it's possible the replay officials did not
get to see the same game footage that was replayed on TV... so they may have an excuse.
Today some coaches made a few decisions that will be second guessed by their fans
for a long time. I mean WTF were they thinking? Northwestern puts on an offensive clinic
against Auburn to overcome 5 interceptions and send the game into OT, only to pass up
basically an extra point attempt to send the game into a second OT and try a trick play
from the Tiger five yard line to win the game?
and
Oregon has a 4th and less than a foot, deep in Ohio State territory late in the fourth quarter
and being down 9 points chooses to attempt a long field goal instead of going for it when a
short gain will extend the drive for a must have TD.
Both coaches didn't play the more favorable odds and failed... sure the Wildcats coach would
be hailed a genius if it had worked. But that was a huge risk from the FIVE YARD LINE and
your team had the momentum after coming all the way back to tie the game...
and IT COST YOU THE GAME! <- Sam Kinison voice here.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
oVo wrote:Did you see the Stanford/Oklahoma game yesterday? There were some unbelievable calls
made by the refs on the field and off. Of course it's possible the replay officials did not
get to see the same game footage that was replayed on TV... so they may have an excuse.
Today some coaches made a few decisions that will be second guessed by their fans
for a long time. I mean WTF were they thinking? Northwestern puts on an offensive clinic
against Auburn to overcome 5 interceptions and send the game into OT, only to pass up
basically an extra point attempt to send the game into a second OT and try a trick play
from the Tiger five yard line to win the game?
and
Oregon has a 4th and less than a foot, deep in Ohio State territory late in the fourth quarter
and being down 9 points chooses to attempt a long field goal instead of going for it when a
short gain will extend the drive for a must have TD.
Both coaches didn't play the more favorable odds and failed... sure the Wildcats coach would
be hailed a genius if it had worked. But that was a huge risk from the FIVE YARD LINE and
your team had the momentum after coming all the way back to tie the game...
and IT COST YOU THE GAME! <- Sam Kinison voice here.
Did you miss the part where the only Wildcat kicker (who was plenty awful himself) was carried off the field before that? And they were sending some guy in who wasn't even in the promotional guide the announcers had? Sure, it's easy to kick a 22 yard field goal, in most scenarios. But when when you've had terrible blocking on FG's, are putting a guy out there nobody really believes in, and have been riding a wave of dumb luck... I probably would have just put the O out there, but as a NW fan (in this game) I was happy they didn't let him kick.
strike wolf wrote:one of my dad';s clients has a son thar plays for the flyboys...may7be youve heard of him. tim jefferson?
I went to high school with an old AFA player, Adam Fitch. Also had a couple guys from our 2001 championship team go pro. Never made 1st string though.
I played intramural flag football against a former Falcon QB (Dee Dowis). He played QB for that other team. The bastard.
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...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
oVo wrote:Did you see the Stanford/Oklahoma game yesterday? There were some unbelievable calls
made by the refs on the field and off. Of course it's possible the replay officials did not
get to see the same game footage that was replayed on TV... so they may have an excuse.
Today some coaches made a few decisions that will be second guessed by their fans
for a long time. I mean WTF were they thinking? Northwestern puts on an offensive clinic
against Auburn to overcome 5 interceptions and send the game into OT, only to pass up
basically an extra point attempt to send the game into a second OT and try a trick play
from the Tiger five yard line to win the game?
and
Oregon has a 4th and less than a foot, deep in Ohio State territory late in the fourth quarter
and being down 9 points chooses to attempt a long field goal instead of going for it when a
short gain will extend the drive for a must have TD.
Didn't see OU/Stanford. I prefer to think that Auburn simply tried to lose that game as their effort was somewhat lackluster and on top of that they gaave NW plenty of chances both in OT and 4th Quarter. I think the coach decided to fake it rather than kick because he had no faith in his replacement kicker to even hit a short one.
Oregon should have gone for it on 4th Down and they could have possiby won the game however I'm going to give this game to OSU's defense. They stepped up.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
International Bowl: South Florida 27 Northern Illinois 3 Final
PapaJohns.com Bowl: Connecticut 20 South Carolina 7 Final
Cotton Bowl: Mississippi 21 Oklahoma State 7 Final
No shortage of missed calls by the refs in this one as the Cowboys turn it over to the Rebels
Liberty Bowl: Arkansas 20 East Carolina 17 OT
Pirate's miss a field goal on the final play of regulation and another in overtime
Alamo Bowl: Texas Tech 41 Michigan State 31 Final
Bowl Records by Conference wrote:Mountain West 4-0
Independent _ 1-0
Sun Belt _ 1-0
Big East _ 4-2
SEC _ 5-4
Big 12 _ 4-3
Big Ten _ 3-3
ACC _ 3-3
WAC _ 1-2
C-USA _ 2-4
PAC 10 _ 2-5
MAC _ 0-4
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oVo wrote:International Bowl: South Florida 27 Northern Illinois 3 Final
PapaJohns.com Bowl: Connecticut 20 South Carolina 7 Final
Cotton Bowl: Mississippi 21 Oklahoma State 7 Final
No shortage of missed calls by the refs in this one as the Cowboys turn it over to the Rebels
Liberty Bowl: Arkansas 20 East Carolina 17 OT
Pirate's miss a field goal on the final play of regulation and another in overtime
Alamo Bowl: Michigan State 21 Texas Tech 27 5:24 3rd Qtr
Bowl Records by Conference wrote:Mountain West 4-0
Independent _ 1-0
Sun Belt _ 1-0
Big East _ 4-2
Big Ten _ 3-2
SEC _ 5-4
Big 12 _ 3-3
ACC _ 3-3
WAC _ 1-2
C-USA _ 2-4
PAC 10 _ 2-5
MAC _ 0-4
A lot of late calls went Ole Miss;'s way but they ddi kind of owe them for missing the td call that cost Ole Miss a TD anyways. Connecticut played a great game and they deserved every point they got in that win over SC. Arkansas played very well just to find their way back into the Liberty Bowl and i'm sure ECU's kicker feels like locking himself in his room for a while afterthat game. All and allk a decent day for the SEC, bad day for Mac, could be a bad day for the Big 12 as last I checked. MSU was hanging tough with TT.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
That field goal in the OT was the only time that the Razorbacks led in that game and it's the second
bowl game in a row that ECU has outplayed an SEC team only to let them off the hook in the end. It
was crucial turnovers that did them in both times... it's a team loss and not just the kicker's failure
to put it through the uprights to win it.
oVo wrote:That field goal in the OT was the only time that the Razorbacks led in that game and it's the second
bowl game in a row that ECU has outplayed an SEC team only to let them off the hook in the end. It
was crucial turnovers that did them in both times... it's a team loss and not just the kicker's failure
to put it through the uprights to win it.
No, a kicker you actually need to feel sorry for is UNMs. The poor kid hit the uprights, even both in one kick. You really need to feel bad for the poor kid.
muy_thaiguy wrote:No, a kicker you actually need to feel sorry for is UNMs.
I dunno muy... ECU had the ball on the Arkansas 22 yard line and he missed a FG on the final play
sending the game into overtime. In the OT, ECU was inside the 20, he missed again and Arkansas didn't.
The Razorbacks never led in this game until the FG that ended the OT. The Pirates have the edge on every
stat in the game but two, field goal percentage and of course the most important one... final score.
oVo wrote:That field goal in the OT was the only time that the Razorbacks led in that game and it's the second
bowl game in a row that ECU has outplayed an SEC team only to let them off the hook in the end. It
was crucial turnovers that did them in both times... it's a team loss and not just the kicker's failure
to put it through the uprights to win it.
I would agree but it doesn't change the fact that he probably feels like locking himself in his room for a while.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Who are you guys choosing for the Fiesta Bowl?
TCU wins and the MWC sweeps their bowl games. The WAC has shown that they really aren't that good this year and the MWC shows that they re as good if not better than most of these BCS conferences they go up against.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
muy_thaiguy wrote:No, a kicker you actually need to feel sorry for is UNMs.
I dunno muy... ECU had the ball on the Arkansas 22 yard line and he missed a FG on the final play
sending the game into overtime. In the OT, ECU was inside the 20, he missed again and Arkansas didn't.
The Razorbacks never led in this game until the FG that ended the OT. The Pirates have the edge on every
stat in the game but two, field goal percentage and of course the most important one... final score.
I would also give Arkansas a little credit. Their offense let them down in the first half with enough mistakes in the passing game to allow ECU's defense to dominate them and couldn't get anything going but they came back in the 3rd quarterr to make it a game and their defense inthe 4th and overtime proved that they may not have had their best game ever but shut them down enough as it would prove to win the game.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
If I were to tell you that you were going to be down on the scoreboard in the 4th quarter with a little under half the quarter left and you were going to:
bench your starting QB
go for it not once but twice on 4th downs inside your opponents 40 yd line
what do you think would be the outcome?
kuddos to the Interim Head Coach Ruffin McNeill for being that ballsy and pulling of a win.
most likely will take the reins next year after that showing last night
It was a great game and good win for the Red Raiders and the decisions made on that last drive were big ones. Choosing to go for it on 4th and 4 when they were up 3 and in field goal range was huge. Knowing a touchdown could still beat 'em they dialed up a big play to sustain the drive and keep control of the game. I lost count of how many lead changes occurred in that see-saw second half, but I know both teams had their chances to stretch the lead at some point and couldn't get it done.
strike wolf... I've been really impressed with Arkansas all year. Ryan Mallett is a terrific quarterback and to tell you the truth, I was surprised that ECU was able to hang with them at all. The Razorbacks are a lot like Georgia this year in that they have played some amazing football but been inconsistent in maintaining that level of play in all their games. The Pirates generated the kind of game they needed with 38 minutes of possession, holding Arkansas to 81 rushing yards --including three 4th down stops-- while outgaining them by 110 yards in total offense... including a 99 yard drive in the second quarter for the first TD of the game. The two interceptions of Patrick Pinkney --one returned 37 yards for a TD-- resulting in 10 points, coupled with Mallet's 41 yard TD toss right after ECU's second TD drive in the third quarter were back breakers, but missing 4 of 5 field goal attempts was the nail in the coffin. Ben Hartman kicked a 33 yarder in the second quarter before missing his next four attempts, including one on the final play of regulation to send it into overtime
and that is a tough way to lose.