PKMN Chap 2: Day 6(5/18)

[shieldgenerator7]

*FACEHOOF*


edoc you didn't even address SW's claim and your BW.

-SG7 ( )

[Rodion]

First off, I hope this isnt another stab at trying to say that we are cheaters.

I wouldn't be subtle if I suspected the integrity of the game had been compromised. So, no, that was not a stab. And what I wrote in Battle of the Bulge was hardly a stab, just a sincere request for you guys to tone down the off-game communication about on-game stuff.

Second off the difference is this:
1. I got to the computer before S7C did this morning, therefore posted before he read and therefore he didnt feel the need to unvote (He could confirm if I am right, or correct me if I am wrong).
2. Edocsil has not yet claimed, therefore S7C (being on at the time) pushes for the claim.

No. Clever got to post after Kratos' claim and before you got to defend yourself. He refused to vote you before you got a chance to defend yourself. He did not refuse to vote for Edoc before Edoc got to defend himself.

Consider that Kratos' claim that protected Strike Wolf was much more believable than Strike's claim that protected Strike Wolf (for obvious reasons). I see no reason for Clever to give a prerogative to Ghostly and later refuse to give the same prerogative to Edoc.

I can take the burden of finding the proper quotes/timeline if anybody wants me to, but I still want a straight answer from Clever (did anyone find Clever's answer to my question satisfying?), as this whole situation seems extremely fishy to me. I'm obviously not advocating lynching the cop, but I think we should derail Edoc's lynch until this situation is explained.

Like I said, I hope that you arent trying to once again frame us as cheaters, but if you are then I am glad to prove anything wrong against that through PM.

In regards to the actual game, I will not push Edoc yet. I want to see his claim and dont know what his vote count is up to.

Don't worry about that. As I said, I'm not.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

First off, I hope this isnt another stab at trying to say that we are cheaters.

I wouldn't be subtle if I suspected the integrity of the game had been compromised. So, no, that was not a stab. And what I wrote in Battle of the Bulge was hardly a stab, just a sincere request for you guys to tone down the off-game communication about on-game stuff.

Second off the difference is this:
1. I got to the computer before S7C did this morning, therefore posted before he read and therefore he didnt feel the need to unvote (He could confirm if I am right, or correct me if I am wrong).
2. Edocsil has not yet claimed, therefore S7C (being on at the time) pushes for the claim.

No. Clever got to post after Kratos' claim and before you got to defend yourself. He refused to vote you before you got a chance to defend yourself. He did not refuse to vote for Edoc before Edoc got to defend himself.

Consider that Kratos' claim that protected Strike Wolf was much more believable than Strike's claim that protected Strike Wolf (for obvious reasons). I see no reason for Clever to give a prerogative to Ghostly and later refuse to give the same prerogative to Edoc.

I can take the burden of finding the proper quotes/timeline if anybody wants me to, but I still want a straight answer from Clever (did anyone find Clever's answer to my question satisfying?), as this whole situation seems extremely fishy to me. I'm obviously not advocating lynching the cop, but I think we should derail Edoc's lynch until this situation is explained.

Like I said, I hope that you arent trying to once again frame us as cheaters, but if you are then I am glad to prove anything wrong against that through PM.

In regards to the actual game, I will not push Edoc yet. I want to see his claim and dont know what his vote count is up to.

Don't worry about that. As I said, I'm not.

ok lets do that unvote
i am the cop
i investigated SW last night
i got a guilty we thought that meant sw was guilty
kratos came out and said that he was busdriver leading to him maknig ghost guilty. well throughout the game i thought that ghostly one of the more townie players i sided with him in his fued with kratos. i didnt vote him cause i found it to likely that SW allegidly protected kratos by trying to clear him. and then kratos did the same
but then we get corrected ghost was not busdriven so we find SW guilty again my vote was on him still so i didnt do anyting. not being with i sided with ghostly in the kratos argument i sided with his personal list to.
therefore when edoc showed up i thought it was worth a shot. not im not so sure who to believe i do think it is a little scmmy how he posted a whole paragraph with nothing to do with the BW on him or night actions on him.
therefore i voted him but i agree lets derail this and get is sorted out

[shieldgenerator7]

That makes sense, S7C

I agree, we need to straighten things out. First off, we need a claim/defense from edoc. He didn't post hay his last post.

[freezie]

Doom, if anything, I shall ask not to be replaced anymore. I should be back correctly right now.

[shieldgenerator7]

Doom, if anything, I shall ask not to be replaced anymore. I should be back correctly right now.

yay! freezie's back!

[freezie]

Alright, re-read only the recent events for now ( if I remember right the first 2 days weren't as rich as this one....I'll still re-read them later .)

(that was before Kratos explained the mistake and SW claim)

woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

PRECISELY why he wouldn't do it if they were both mafia. If they knew we suspected a connection between them, they would try to distance each others, not protect each others. I seriously doubt they can both be mafia.

Vote: Strike Wolf

I do not beleive his claim. A 50-50 ''busdriver'' which is 100% sure to work against cops? I mean, the flavor does fit...But fits way too much.

Still, we need to hear from Edoc, just in case..




At Clever-Ghostly/Rodion:

Yes, I also find this strange. Clever's explanation still doesn't sound right to me. Clever easily jump at Edoc's throat.

What I also find strange is that Ghostly is very, very quick at calling out a post that ''could refer to them cheating'' when Rodion really hasn't spoken anything about that. Ghostly, any info involving Clever and you isn't about cheating..We're playing mafia. Rodion may very well have found an -INGAME- connection between you both. Or at least, that's what I see about it. The only problem with that, is that Clever already claimed town investigative. And so far nothing to tell us he's lying. So..That voids anything else. What remains is Clever's illogical actions in light of night actions.

[strike wolf]

Good bit posted since I left. Will try to catch up tomorrow.

[zimmah]

Well my question has been answered.

I am Ditto, Wild Copy Pokemon.

Each night I can copy one player. What this means is that investigative roles like cop or flavor cop would have me appear as that player's character. All other roles would have a 50/50 shot of hitting either me or the person I copied and same goes for abilities directed at him. Example

I copy player A

Player A is mafia

Cop and killer target me. Doctor and roleblocker target player A.

Cop receives guilty result for me. Any of the other 3 roles have a 50/50 shot at hitting me or player A. Meaning technically the doc protect and kill could be switched or the doc could end up protecting the player that the kill landed on.

To get to the point last night I chose to copy edocsil. This means the guilty result actually applies to him.

vote Edocsil

i think even if this role is true, i think it would more harm than good anyway.

[edocsil]

Clever's guilty is allegedly redirected (by Kratos) from Strike to Ghostly. Clever chooses to stick to his Strike vote.
Clever's guilty is allegedly redirected (by Strike) from Strike to Edocsil. Clever chooses to swap his vote to Edocsil.

Can you explain the difference between the 2 situations, Clever?

Busdriver is far more believable then that odd as balls role, read, sounds like a scum role to boot. Also, Strike is trying to save himself with that claim, Kratos was insuring that we actually hit the right target and was not in danger himself. Strike is also fully capable of making up that sort of a role as a cover to buy another day's time.

I also find it odd that no one even questioned why I didn't even examine why I didn't just drop the cards and claim in my last post. Long story short, I am town. I had hoped to direct the town towards SW without claiming, but it looks like people foolishly desire a claim. Girafarig, Town JOAT as time progresses I get more abilities. Let me put this simply. tonight I get flavor cop, so you are not going to hang me under any circumstances today. So please now that that got pushed out into the open, I will need a watcher, due to the fact that there is very likely a scum role blocker. 2 people were blocked last night, unlikely both were town.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Alright, re-read only the recent events for now ( if I remember right the first 2 days weren't as rich as this one....I'll still re-read them later .)

(that was before Kratos explained the mistake and SW claim)

woah woah woah hold on im just thinking that this is way to likely. so strike at one point tries to defend kratos and himself. we find it scummy. and as soon as i have solid evidence on strike wolf look who steps up to the plate. now that i look at this i find it way to easy for him to do that. i will not vote ghost unless he openly says he is guilty. i would rather lynch my cop result than go with someone elses word as i know what i say is true

PRECISELY why he wouldn't do it if they were both mafia. If they knew we suspected a connection between them, they would try to distance each others, not protect each others. I seriously doubt they can both be mafia.

Vote: Strike Wolf

I do not beleive his claim. A 50-50 ''busdriver'' which is 100% sure to work against cops? I mean, the flavor does fit...But fits way too much.

Still, we need to hear from Edoc, just in case..




At Clever-Ghostly/Rodion:

Yes, I also find this strange. Clever's explanation still doesn't sound right to me. Clever easily jump at Edoc's throat.

What I also find strange is that Ghostly is very, very quick at calling out a post that ''could refer to them cheating'' when Rodion really hasn't spoken anything about that. Ghostly, any info involving Clever and you isn't about cheating..We're playing mafia. Rodion may very well have found an -INGAME- connection between you both. Or at least, that's what I see about it. The only problem with that, is that Clever already claimed town investigative. And so far nothing to tell us he's lying. So..That voids anything else. What remains is Clever's illogical actions in light of night actions.

as a matter of fact i remember my exact reason for not voting ghostly. it was because i believe when i saw the busdriver role claim he was already at l-3 edoc was not

[ghostly447]

Well I will go ahead and put an end to this.

I have personally been accused of cheating with my brother New guy1. I wont go into details, and it was never made into a serious case that went in the forums and was considered.

We dont cheat, and I jumped at Rodion because it has been a previous discussion on more than 1 occasion, so I decided I would make my point clear immediately rather than let it simmer and come back to bite me by some curious bystander after a while.

Either way, I am so confused now its unbeleivable.

Considering the only pokemon I ever saw Ditto in was the earlier ones, and all these other pokemon seem to be from a newer version, I am leaning more towards believign Edoc. But I am not completely sure. Any thoughts on that?

[strike wolf]

Tangela, machoke ditto: original 150 (red and blue era)

Snivy: 495. Black and white.

[jonty125]

Girafarig, Town JOAT as time progresses I get more abilities. Let me put this simply. tonight I get flavor cop,.

Very unusual for JOAT. Care to say what powers you did have. And what do you mean by tonight I get flavour cop (don't you get to choose your action?)

[ghostly447]

Tangela, machoke ditto: original 150 (red and blue era)

Snivy: 495. Black and white.

True. Point dismissed.

[Rodion]

2 people were blocked last night

What makes you believe that?

[Rodion]

And Ghostly, could you please explain the meaning of "I could pick a pokemon and picked Mew"?

Is that pure flavour? Is there another player out there with the "Mew" role?

[ghostly447]

@rodion: I was the character I named above (on my phone so I don't want to go find it). I was allowed to pick a Pokemon to join me on my quest of finding my rival and to survive with. I picked mew because I remember it being powerful in one of the movies so I wanted it. I could have picked any and I think I could have picked one even if there was one already in the game.

[edocsil]

2 people were blocked last night

What makes you believe that?

Oh come now, you I don't need to spoon feed info to. Think it through.

Girafarig, Town JOAT as time progresses I get more abilities. Let me put this simply. tonight I get flavor cop,.

Very unusual for JOAT. Care to say what powers you did have. And what do you mean by tonight I get flavour cop (don't you get to choose your action?)

I can't really without quoting, it's a lot of them. Vigs. busdrves, kill blocks, action blocks, some work vs pokemon, some vs "people" some work vs everyone.

[DoomYoshi]

Official Vote Count

Strike Wolf (2) - edoc, Rodion, freezie
edoc (1) - jonty, kratos, shield, pcm,


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Prods comiing later tonight.

[shieldgenerator7]

Official Vote Count

Strike Wolf (2) - edoc, Rodion, freezie
edoc (1) - jonty, kratos, shield, pcm,


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Prods comiing later tonight.

is this... broken? or a result of some weird game mechanic?

[edocsil]

Official Vote Count

Strike Wolf (2) - edoc, Rodion, freezie
edoc (1) - jonty, kratos, shield, pcm,


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Prods comiing later tonight.

Is that count right?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Official Vote Count

Strike Wolf (2) - edoc, Rodion, freezie
edoc (1) - jonty, kratos, shield, pcm,


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Prods comiing later tonight.

is this... broken? or a result of some weird game mechanic?

probably a mod error. he probably thought that it took 5 to lynch

[ghostly447]

Maybe he ranked them in order of closest to lynch.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Maybe he ranked them in order of closest to lynch.

maybe so lol either way we know what it should be