Conquer Club

actually if mafia are skimming, which is typical, it may have been missed... that is before you brought attention to it. If a townie sees a hint, he needs to note it and move on, not mention it!!!

trestain wrote:xen i didn't intend for it to be missed i intended for townies not to go shouting there mouth off about it

I'm not... I asked a question..

You lack subtlety(which you have said) so I was wondering why you wouldn't leave such work for other people...


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no worries Xen.. he saw I was pressuring others and had FOS'd him. it's only natural for a townie to want to clear himself in fellow townies eyes.

and now you have bought it up xwn you would not have fos'ed me if you knew what it meant now would you

trestain wrote:and now you have bought it up xwn you would not have fos'ed me if you knew what it meant now would you

Of course I would.. Why would someone known for lack of subtlety try and be subtle? It doesn't help the town now does it?


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wicked wrote:no worries Xen.. he saw I was pressuring others and had FOS'd him. it's only natural for a townie to want to clear himself in fellow townies eyes.

Of course.. But that doesn't clear him in my books. What he did hinders us, not helps us..

I'm leaving for dinner now,


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XenHu wrote:

trestain wrote:and now you have bought it up xwn you would not have fos'ed me if you knew what it meant now would you

Of course I would..
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unvote whoever

vote xenhu

wicked wrote:hey mafia genius (that's Mink for all the rest of you)....

I guess this rule is OK to be broken then???

hitman's mafia rule page wrote:All discussion takes place during the Day phase. ABSOLUTELY NO POSTING AT NIGHT,

So you decide which rules are ok to be broken, and which ones can't even be bent? (not that we're bending the rules, but that was your argument)

go peddle your shit elsewhere mafioso.

You tell that to the rest of the people who are breaking the rule in that thread as well then.

Saying a few things during the night is in an entire different ballpark then revealing game information from your PM, and if that isnt obvious, then I'm going to just have to applaud your lack of brains

Master Bush wrote:

Incandenza wrote:(note: this next part comes from my brain's paranoia nexus)Plus, and this is dreadfully unlikely but worth mentioning, but that whole do-si-do you and MB had last night felt a little weird, like maybe both of you are mafia and staged a lice little charade on our behalves. Like I said, tho, not terribly likely. Then again, you two are pretty much the most experienced players on this side of the bracket.

I assure you this is just your brain's paranoia. Do you think if me and wicked were really mafia, we'd go to all that trouble of creating that, just to trick people? Why would we do that? Neither of us had a single vote against us. We would be the worst mafia ever if we did that.

Like I said, it wasn't terribly likely. Besides, it would be more of a long-term strategy, like if one of you got busted on day three, the other could say 'hey I suspected him/her back on day one but they fooled me' sort of thing. I'll shut up about that now.

wicked wrote:you're right Incans... I got on a role and just kept going...lol. I've yet to ask anyone their actual WC, so it still might be usable. That "don't say anything" speech was mainly for the noobs and peeps I hadn't played with before, of which there are a lot in this game.

Fair enough. It's just that the WC is probably the most valuable piece of information we have right now, and it should definitely be employed judiciously.

wicked wrote:At this point, I don't think we're rushing a vote. We have two more real days, and as infrequently as some of you are coming on, it's time to vote.

BTW, where is Fircola?

Voting for UCA Bears will tell us NOTHING at this point. We need to go for a lynch we can learn something from.

I agree, but I'm still not completely sold on minkish. Then again, if I'm going to wait for a smoking gun, we might be here for awhile.

A UCA lynch only tells us something inasmuch as it reflects on Wisse, but enough people are pissed at UCA right now that the mafia wouldn't really stand out from the pissed townies.

Now that you mention it, the purple lightning has been suspiciously absent. Part of me wants to give him a pass given all the other mafia games he's in, but he's been busy before and has always posted regularly.

wicked wrote:And lastly, just because it's day 1 doesnt' mean we can't learn as much as possible, after all, we had like 10 days!!

True, but there comes a point where no new information is really being dumped into the system, and this whole thread becomes a weird echo chamber where the smallest think becomes suspicious and one's mind can turn paranoid... viz., the top of this post.

XenHu wrote:

trestain wrote:MB and all else it would be wrong to lynch an ordinary crewman

Trestain, why the f*ck did you do that?

You did that 'hint' thing last time and it didn't work. So why are you trying it again.

FOS:Trestain

QFE. I share xenhu's dismay at trestain's divulging of info. The heat wasn't on him, just an FOS. So for him to divulge the color, especially when wicked asked minkish (not tres), was not a good call.

wicked wrote:actually if mafia are skimming, which is typical, it may have been missed... that is before you brought attention to it. If a townie sees a hint, he needs to note it and move on, not mention it!!!

I don't buy the skimming thing. It's become an article of faith that all mafia skim. Well, maybe the bad ones do. Trestain's doctor code in the last game (or senfive's tipoff to supercram about his double voter status) would be a good example: everyone freaked out on him for hinting, he freaked out on everyone for drawing attention to it, meanwhile the mafia (yours truly in that game) saw the clue to begin with and laughed out loud. Yeah, maybe someone skimming wouldn't have picked up on his clue, but someone paying even a modicum of attention would have. The trick with codes is to not only convey information, but to bury it so deeply in the text of the post that the mafia wouldn't even know that there was a code. Which, of course, is next to impossible. In my brief time playing these games, I've seen so many more hints go awry than find their mark that they should only be attempted by seasoned pros.

Sorry for the long post, but I was constrained in my ability to post this afternoon, and I won't be able to get back on until late tonight (300 on Imax, oh yeah).

wicked wrote:FOS Fircola for jumping on and FOSing me very quickly after MB posted.

It was a good case, it's not like it was a 1 word post.

I'm reading the thread right now.

wicked wrote:sorry Mink, it's how we play here, helps get us going the first day. if the mods didn't like it, they'd publish the WC's and vanilla role descriptions, as I've seen done in games elsewhere.

Yeah, apologies to those that don't like the Role PM method of playing. I fall into that category as well and forgot to post the vanilla role PM in the rules. It wouldn't be fair to change the rules mid game, but rest assured I will not forget (often) in the future.

Vote Count coming momentarily.

Vote Count



4 Minkish (wicked, Master Bush, spinwizard, vgmmaster)
3 UCAbears (Anarkistsdream, XenHu, moz976)
2 XenHu (UCAbears, trestain)
1 wicked (Minkish)



5 Not Voting (The1exile, Fircoal, dcowboys055, Incandenza, for dummies)


With 15 alive it takes 8 to Lynch!

I dont remember voting for Xenhu.?

What the heck UCA, you post ABSOLUTELY nothing and now show up, and fos xenhu with no explanation?

Ok, this is getting retarded. We are in the 6th day of this day phase, and are 63 pages deep.

Can you guys please end this day already, and lynch someone.

dcowboys055 wrote:What the heck UCA, you post ABSOLUTELY nothing and now show up, and fos xenhu with no explanation?

minkish i mean*

I just got in here like yesterday or the day before and have been extremely busy studying for 9 weeks tests. ....... and I have read some of the pages and he seems suspicius.

WEll, I'm done reading the thread. About me not posting as much as I usually do there are too reasons, I've started an activity on Mon-Thur. that will not let me come on until 2 hours later. Also, I check the other mafia games here, due to the large amount of posts to handle compaired to the small amounts of the others. Also, when I get on the activity stops.

I think Minkish is acting very suspiciously and also making the game a bit less fun. HE should learn how to shut up. I also find AD suspicious there was no need to bring out the "hint" that Trestain did. Also, he hates it when people post parts of pms. Is there any more things he hates. He made 2 votes for things he hates, and I'm starting to think it's his way of trying to bandwagon.

UCAbears wrote:I just got in here like yesterday or the day before and have been extremely busy studying for 9 weeks tests. ....... and I have read some of the pages and he seems suspicius.

Who seems suspicius?

minkish

Fircoal wrote:WEll, I'm done reading the thread. About me not posting as much as I usually do there are too reasons, I've started an activity on Mon-Thur. that will not let me come on until 2 hours later. Also, I check the other mafia games here, due to the large amount of posts to handle compaired to the small amounts of the others. Also, when I get on the activity stops.

I think Minkish is acting very suspiciously and also making the game a bit less fun. HE should learn how to shut up. I also find AD suspicious there was no need to bring out the "hint" that Trestain did. Also, he hates it when people post parts of pms. Is there any more things he hates. He made 2 votes for things he hates, and I'm starting to think it's his way of trying to bandwagon.

You people need to learn who says what in posts before you start bullshitting... XenHu said that, not I...

trestain wrote:

XenHu wrote:

trestain wrote:and now you have bought it up xwn you would not have fos'ed me if you knew what it meant now would you

Of course I would..
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unvote whoever

vote xenhu

Taking things out of context are we?

XenHu wrote:s:

XenHu wrote:
Of course I would.. Why would someone known for lack of subtlety try and be subtle? It doesn't help the town now does it?


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Don't f*ck around, answer the question Trestain.


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Anarkistsdream wrote:

Fircoal wrote:WEll, I'm done reading the thread. About me not posting as much as I usually do there are too reasons, I've started an activity on Mon-Thur. that will not let me come on until 2 hours later. Also, I check the other mafia games here, due to the large amount of posts to handle compaired to the small amounts of the others. Also, when I get on the activity stops.

I think Minkish is acting very suspiciously and also making the game a bit less fun. HE should learn how to shut up. I also find AD suspicious there was no need to bring out the "hint" that Trestain did. Also, he hates it when people post parts of pms. Is there any more things he hates. He made 2 votes for things he hates, and I'm starting to think it's his way of trying to bandwagon.

You people need to learn who says what in posts before you start bullshitting... XenHu said that, not I...

Oh sorry, I find XenHu suspicious for that. But also AD, you've said you hated 2 things. I think if you pull that again, it's just a cover. But maybe it's not since, I messed up on the names.

What Trestain did couldn't pass for a hint unless I were blind! I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trestain can't muster subtly to save his damn soul!

Anyone who considers otherwise needs to think..


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