Age of Merchants - [Quenched]

Sparqs · Post by **Sparqs** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:58 pm

Ah, cocunuts *(R)tm

No wonder they are so valuable. :)

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:04 pm

spellchack done.

here's the new file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6r9249

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:11 pm

Bad news...

Pochas & Santiago are not connected, even though they are docks connected by a dotted line.

Also, many of the ports do not connect to all the docks. However some connect to a couple.

EDIT: Actually many of the docks are not connected correctly at all.
Dorata connects to many places it doesn't border. Things are very broken. Fort Hope and Pampas aren't connected at all, yet Dorata connects to both of them.

Can I see your xml and fix all the borders or do you think you got it? I'm worried some places might be completely land locked as it stands right now. There are so many border mistakes it is hard to list them all. I'll try though in a bit.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:24 pm

List of Broken Dock Borders
Pochas & Santiago are not connected.
Solia & Falta are not connected.
Pampas connects to Dorata and should instead connect to Fort Hope
Fort Hope connects to Dorata and should instead connect to Pampas

I'm out of time at the moment, but most ports need...
Churacas
Solia
Falta
Pochas
Santiago
Pampas
Fort Hope
Val De Juro
Zio
...all added as borders, some ports have a few of these but not all.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:33 pm

you sure?

the xml is in the link above. feel free to edit it.

i'm checking it again now with the tool.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:39 pm

odd. i see no error with the tool.

i'll check it now manually

sorry.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:48 pm

I just checked it with BOB, the latest greasemonkey add on. I'll go see what xml lack updated, maybe he picked an old one.

<country>
<name>Puerto Allegre</name>
<borders>
<border>Traversa</border>
<border>Ricota</border>
<border>Muarito</border>
<border>Puerto Esperanza</border>
<border>Puerto Tiago</border>
<border>Puerto Castillo</border>
<border>Puerto Tranquillo</border>
<border>Puerto Modesto</border>
<border>Puerto Antigo</border>
<border>Puerto Grazio</border>
<border>Puerto Rico</border>
<border>Puerto Ventura</border>
</borders>

This has all the ports, but none of the docks. For a quick example.

EDIT: I just checked with the tool and it doesn't look right, and now I see that Colato and Gringo are connected, they shouldn't be.

Tester: http://www.multiblah.com/cc_tester/
Image: http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Age_Of_Merchants.L.jpg
XML: http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Age_Of_Merchants.xml

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:56 pm

DiM wrote:spellchack done.

Apparently not.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:56 pm

i've corrected all the problems.

here's the new file.

don't know what happened. i'll have to check on my pc. probably i uploaded the wrong version when lack asked for me to post the xml again cause the old one expired.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8v4smp

edit// my bad i uploaded a previous version of the xml.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:57 pm

unriggable wrote:
DiM wrote:spellchack done.
Apparently not.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:04 pm

Direct Link: http://fs02n1.sendspace.com/dl/4645d130 ... mp/AoM.xml

Lackattack isn't around at the moment. I hope this gets fixed faster then the last one that needed to be.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:07 pm

how can i use the tester with an external link to the xml?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:20 pm

latest version:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f5430a

direct link:
http://fs01n4.sendspace.com/dl/8b1bb19e ... 0a/AoM.xml

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:39 pm

i revised the whole xml and all the connections seem ok now.

unfortunatelly i'm not so good at xml. i managed to understand the connections and all and i corrected them. but the bonuses are still a mistery. i hope those are good.

one thing i noticed is that tobacco is in some places called herbs.
or am i mistaking?

should i replace herbs with tobbacco in all the places?

i have no idea

and yeti_c is not online to tell me what he meat by herbs and tobacco

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:46 pm

ok i replaced herbs with tobbaco.

from what i understand yeti_c used herbs to define santiago resource in some places and tobacco to define the same resource in some other places.

after loking at the way the other resources are given bonuses i think removing herbs and replacing it with tobacco is the right thing.

so here's the xml:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sdnwp4

and direct link:

http://fs02n4.sendspace.com/dl/d259a955 ... p4/AoM.xml

Sparqs · Post by **Sparqs** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:27 am

I took a look at the XML above. I don't know what your final version should look like, but the one above does not appear to use the new XML. Should it? I would think it would have been a LOT easier with <overrules>.

Overruling continent bonus
Instead of a <bestof> tag how about a set of <overrule>s, like this:

Code: Select all

<continent>
	<name>Any 4 Kings</name>
	<bonus>5</bonus>
	<components>
		<component>Red King</component>
		<component>Green King</component>
		<component>Blue King</component>
		<component>Purple King</component>
		<component>Yellow King</component>
	</components>
	<required>4</required>
	<overrules>
		<overrule>Any 2 Kings</overrule>
		<overrule>Any 3 Kings</overrule>
	</overrules>
</continent>

t.e.c · Post by **t.e.c** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:16 am

i may be a retard but i'm playing a game and i'm getting

t.e.c receives -2 armies for holding Wine and Rum to Duna Market

?? why?

benjikat · Post by **benjikat** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:07 am

the -2 bonuses are probably the worst part of the incorrect xml.

it seems that currently in most cases, if you control two ports plus a market in a "foreign" continent, then you get -2 per resource pair, instead of the +2.

In mopping up a game just now, in taking the final 2or3 ports, my bonus dropped from 77 to 33!!

Let's hope the proper xml goes live soon

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:07 am

Sparqs wrote:I took a look at the XML above. I don't know what your final version should look like, but the one above does not appear to use the new XML. Should it? I would think it would have been a LOT easier with <overrules>.
Overruling continent bonus
Instead of a <bestof> tag how about a set of <overrule>s, like this:
Code: Select all
<continent>
	<name>Any 4 Kings</name>
	<bonus>5</bonus>
	<components>
		<component>Red King</component>
		<component>Green King</component>
		<component>Blue King</component>
		<component>Purple King</component>
		<component>Yellow King</component>
	</components>
	<required>4</required>
	<overrules>
		<overrule>Any 2 Kings</overrule>
		<overrule>Any 3 Kings</overrule>
	</overrules>
</continent>

Hi Sparqs,

I considered recoding the XML...

The Required tags wouldn't work - as there are some bits that are Required and some that are optional.

You are right that the Overrules tags could replace some of the negative bonuses for the foreign market rules...

But I'd spent a fair while coding it all using the existing system - I felt it deserved to stay with the complicated logic instead of using the overrules...

Also the naming for Overrules means that I would have to name stuff differently...

I may consider a recode later... but it's immaterial!

C.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:11 am

Ah yes - I see what is wrong with the negative bonuses...

I put the wrong sign in for all 4 ports bonus...

I will correct and send a new copy to DiM & Lack.

EDIT - I have done that... hopefully it will be uploaded soon...

Another case for Beta testing areas for maps? Pictures get picked apart for months... and the XML only gets tested once live!

C.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:36 am

I think DiM already fixed the xml, but maybe not. I thought we were just waiting for lack.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:44 am

I just played an RT and I found fort hope did not connect to Pampas and Gringo connected to Colato.

Not sure if its already mentioned or deliberate but I thought I should bring it up.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:00 am

Coleman wrote:I think DiM already fixed the xml, but maybe not. I thought we were just waiting for lack.

He fixed some linking - but not the negative bonuses.

C.

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:53 am

I was also checking the XML and found some things wrong:

-the negative bonus already mentioned (all 4 ports should be +2 in stead of -2)
-For all foreign recourse pairs you have Torales in the XML, while that is the Factory. It should be Chino!!!!!

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:03 am

In the section for Top right --> Duna Market you have the ports wrong. you only mention the ports of the top right Islands and not the ports of the Duna Market Island.