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1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:03 am
by sensfan
Yahoo! Canada
WASHINGTON - Americans increasingly are convinced — incorrectly — that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a growing number are thoroughly confused about his religion.

Nearly one in five people, or 18 per cent, said they think Obama is Muslim, up from the 11 per cent who said so in March 2009, according to a poll released Thursday. The proportion who correctly say he is a Christian is down to just 34 per cent.

The largest share of people, 43 per cent, said they don't know his religion, an increase from the 34 per cent who said that in early 2009.

The survey, conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center and its affiliated Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, is based on interviews conducted before the controversy over whether Muslims should be permitted to construct a mosque near the World Trade Center site. Obama has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic centre there, though he's also said he won't take a position on whether they should actually build it.

In a separate poll by Time magazine/ABT SRBI conducted Monday and Tuesday — after Obama's comments about the mosque — 24 per cent said they think he is Muslim, 47 per cent said they think he is Christian and 24 per cent didn't know or didn't respond.

In addition, 61 per cent opposed building the Muslim centre near the Trade Center site and 26 per cent said they favour it.

About three in 10 of Obama's fiercest political rivals, Republicans and conservatives, say he is a Muslim. That is up significantly from last year and far higher than the share of Democrats and liberals who say so. But even among his supporters, the number saying he is a Christian has fallen since 2009, with just 43 per cent of blacks and 46 per cent of Democrats saying he is Christian.

Among independents, 18 per cent say Obama is Muslim — up from 10 per cent last year.

Pew analysts attribute the findings to attacks by his opponents and Obama's limited attendance at religious services, particularly in contrast with Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, whose worship was more public.

Andrew Kohut, the Pew Research Center's director, said the confusion partly reflects "the intensification of negative views about Obama among his critics." Alan Cooperman, the Pew Forum's associate director for research, said that with the public hearing little about Obama's religion, "maybe there's more possibility for other people to make suggestions that the president is this or he's really that or he's really a Muslim."

Obama is the Christian son of a Kenyan father who was raised Muslim. From age 6 to 10, Obama lived in predominantly Muslim Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather. His full name, Barack Hussein Obama, sounds Muslim to many Americans.

White House officials did not provide on-the-record comments on the survey, but they prompted Pastor Kirbyjon Caldwell of Houston to call The Associated Press.

Caldwell, who said he has known Obama for years, said the president is a Christian who prays every day. He said he was not sure where the public confusion about the president's religion came from, but he called false media reports about it "a 24-hour noise box committed to presenting the president in a false light."

Six in 10 of those saying Obama is a Muslim said they got the information from the media, with the largest portion — 16 per cent — saying it was on television. Eleven per cent said they learned it from Obama's behaviour and words.

Despite the confusion about Obama's religion, there is noteworthy support for how he uses it to make decisions. Nearly half, or 48 per cent, said he relies on his religion the right amount when making policy choices, 21 per cent said he uses it too little and 11 per cent too much.

At the same time, the poll provides broad indications that the public feels religion is playing a diminished role in politics today, with fewer people than in 2008 saying the Democratic and Republican parties are friendly toward religion.

With elections for control of Congress just over two months away, the poll contains optimistic news for Republicans. Half of white non-Hispanic Catholics, plus three in 10 unaffiliated with a religion and a third of Jews support the GOP — all an increase since 2008.

The survey also found:

—The Democratic Party is seen as friendly to religion by 26 per cent, while 43 per cent say the same about the Republicans. That's a 9 percentage point drop for Republicans since 2008, and 12 points lower for Democrats.

—Fifty-two per cent say churches should stay away from politics, a reversal of the slim majorities that supported churches' political involvement from 1996 to 2006.

The poll, overseen by Princeton Survey Research Associates International, involved landline and cellphone interviews with 3,003 randomly chosen adults. It was conducted July 21-Aug. 5 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.
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Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:12 pm
by Frigidus
Well, roughly 1 in 5 Americans are complete fucking idiots that have no idea what they are talking about.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:22 pm
by bradleybadly
He's not a Muslim. He just takes actions or makes comments which are anti-Israel.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:56 pm
by alex951
does it really matter?

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:03 pm
by tzor
I thought his faith was that of self worship. :twisted:

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:13 pm
by Timminz
Since tzor posted 5th in the thread, does that mean he thinks Obama is a Muslim?

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:39 pm
by tzor
Timminz wrote:Since tzor posted 5th in the thread, does that mean he thinks Obama is a Muslim?
I think he is an Agnostic, personally. :twisted:

But he leans towards the Muslims and away from the Christians, just as Jefferson leaned towards the Christians and against the Muslims.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:31 pm
by spurgistan
bradleybadly wrote:He's not a Muslim. He just takes actions or makes comments which are anti-Israel.
Anti-Israel meaning asking them to do what they said they'd do in the 2002 "Roadmap to Peace?" Interesting.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:31 pm
by MeDeFe
tzor wrote:I think he is an Agnostic, personally. :twisted:

But he leans towards the Muslims and away from the Christians, just as Jefferson leaned towards the Christians and against the Muslims.
I think you display tendencies of leaning towards communicating with the rectal end of your digestive system, and leaning away from using the oral end of it for this purpose. One could also say that if you were to lean your backside against a wall, your words might sound a bit muffled.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:06 pm
by Phatscotty
He is a Liberation Theologist. People only think he is Muslim because he has a Muslim name and was born a Muslim

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:11 pm
by bradleybadly
spurgistan wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:He's not a Muslim. He just takes actions or makes comments which are anti-Israel.
Anti-Israel meaning asking them to do what they said they'd do in the 2002 "Roadmap to Peace?" Interesting.
Perhaps you missed the whole series of terrorist attacks against Israel in 2003. You do know that the palestinian authority was supposed to stop those kinds of things as a condition of the Roadmap that you so fondly admire. I guess the fact that those people (who supposedly want peace) voted in Hamas (official terrorist organization) as their majority in the parliament. Interesting that you also leave out that the road map really wasn't able to be applied because the palestinians weren't able to control their violent outbursts.

Obama supports UN initiative which singles out Israel for having nuclear weapons, but doesn't chide Iran for building theirs? wtf! Where was his support for Israel when they raided flotillas pretending to be carrying aid to Gaza? They had that f*cker stocked with weapons they were going to use to kill Israelis. But Obama wants them to end the blockade? He snubs Netanyahu during an official visit for a "private dinner".

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Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:20 pm
by heavycola
Frigidus wrote:Well, roughly 1 in 5 Americans are complete fucking idiots that have no idea what they are talking about.
mods pls change the thread title to this. K tks.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:24 pm
by alex951
heavycola wrote:
Frigidus wrote:Well, roughly 2 in 5 Americans are complete fucking idiots that have no idea what they are talking about.
mods pls change the thread title to this. K tks.
fixed

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:25 pm
by Frigidus
alex951 wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Frigidus wrote:Well, roughly 2 in 5 Americans are complete fucking idiots that have no idea what they are talking about.
mods pls change the thread title to this. K tks.
fixed
You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:27 pm
by The Bison King
Are 1 in 5 Americans from Arkansas?

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:29 pm
by Frigidus
No, but about 8% are from Texas.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:52 pm
by The Bison King
Texarkana

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:37 pm
by Phatscotty
I am pretty sure 4 out of 5 people think the name "Barak Hussien Obama" is a Muslim name. Barak is Arabian for "blessed".

Of course, if you believe this, you are a fucking retard!

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:39 pm
by ViperOverLord
1 in 5 Americans think he's a Muslim.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:49 pm
by rdsrds2120
I'm not exactly sure when being Christian was a Presidential requirement, or when people didn't have freedom of religion, oh well - back to Puritanism it is!

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:04 pm
by Phatscotty
ViperOverLord wrote:1 in 5 Americans think he's a Muslim.
2 out of 5 do not know

the last 2 out of think hes a Christian

The only thing we know for sure is that Obama has a soft spot for Islam, and a tendency to mock Christianity.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:06 pm
by notyou2
ViperOverLord wrote:1 in 5 Americans think he's a Muslim.
Are you referring to the poster above your post?

It certainly appears that you are VOL.

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:11 pm
by Phatscotty
He was born a muslim,
he has a muslim name,
his father was a muslim...
his step-father was a muslim
he grew up in a muslim country
he went to a muslim school...
He says America is not a Christian Nation

The politician/lawyer says he's a christian. There are 0 issues with his birth certificate or his passport.

Slam Dunk case for Christianity...

these are only external facts. We can continue judging him "by his actions"....

in all fairness, here is the strongest evidence that Obama is in fact a Christian

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:18 pm
by notyou2
Better git yer gun scotty an go a huntin

Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:20 pm
by Phatscotty
notyou2 wrote:Better git yer gun scotty an go a huntin
is that your conclusion when presented with a few simple facts? look at the way people respond to facts? Interesting responses... What does it mean when you present facts and then get responses that do not logically follow? oh...

:D

just take a deep breathe, take a step back, and realize I am only being thorough. This is what the questioning process looks like. Something that should have happened before the election. Of course much larger than the "Is Obama a secret Muslim?" question, is the reality that Obama is not who he said he was in many other areas as well.

I am just asking questions, as usual. Your assumptions are your problems.