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Conquer Club • [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker
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[Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:30 am
by lackattack
Hola amigos,

I'd like to know what you think of this alternative way of selecting quantity of troops for both deploy and fortify:

http://www.conquerclub.com/demo.html

When you have many, many troops built up the current fortify quantity menu can be *huge* and slow down your browser as it loads. By using the picker from our scoreboard pagination, we would avoid that problem. You can type in the quantity or use the arrow buttons. Holding down an arrow button makes it go faster.

Please vote in our poll or post some feedback.

Thanks to Dako for suggesting this (well, something similar at least :) )

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:41 am
by pmchugh
It makes sense to me and it looks better. Although I didn't vote as I use clickies so it wont affect me at all.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:14 am
by wilkinc
It looks good, but could you also put a Max and Min button either side of each of the arrows to deploy either '1' or the full amount?

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:30 am
by Darwins_Bane
new one is much better.....especially with speed scroll when held down

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:57 am
by Lindax
wilkinc wrote:It looks good, but could you also put a Max and Min button either side of each of the arrows to deploy either '1' or the full amount?
This sounds like a good idea.

Lx

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:04 pm
by Metsfanmax
I like the idea but I think it would actually slow you down for low numbers (< 30).

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:06 pm
by Denise
Looks like a much improved option. Even with clickies, the scroll process is slow from the mouse, at least in my experience. Maybe this would be a faster option. I like the idea of having a max and min button.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:19 pm
by natty dread
I don't like it. The old version is much faster for small troop amounts.

If you must implement it, make it optional or only for really large troop numbers.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:27 pm
by Army of GOD
IF you're able to type in the amount, I don't see how it would slow you down.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:48 pm
by natty dread
Army of GOD wrote:IF you're able to type in the amount, I don't see how it would slow you down.
I'll have to move my hand from my mouse to my keyboard.

Think about the one-handed players, and those who like to eat crackers & cheese with their other hand.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:50 pm
by alster
natty_dread wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:IF you're able to type in the amount, I don't see how it would slow you down.
I'll have to move my hand from my mouse to my keyboard.

Think about the one-handed players, and those who like to eat crackers & cheese with their other hand.
...or those, like myself, who enjoy playing with themselves while playing CC games :D

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:05 pm
by Yeoha
Why not make it an option in the "Game Settings" tab? That way people can use the one they prefer.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 pm
by sherkaner
Hmm, I made a similar suggestion here.

But I'm not sure I like it like this. I use CM usually anyway, but I think this would slow me down for small quantities if I didn't. I'd like some keys to work there, and min/max links (or at least some way to easily achieve this) would be nice, since that's 70% of the forts/deploys/advances here anyway.
But I guess it will be nicer for ppl who play on android/iPhone, I felt the old way was annoying on those devices.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:39 pm
by the.killing.44
I don't get the point, isn't this slower than using dropdowns? How often are you going to have more than, say, 20 troops to deploy?

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:14 pm
by rdsrds2120
Also a clicky user, but for those who can't - I think it's a pretty good idea. I don't know if this would really matter enough, but possibly if implemented, make the other one available in the Control Panel as a setting?

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:35 am
by elfish_lad
I likey.

E.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:43 am
by Dako
Is is faster for the server and the client - but maybe slower to use. Means less lag for CC anyway.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:55 am
by HighlanderAttack
Yes-use it--love to be able to type in the number

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:27 am
by Uncle Death
Well done!

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:39 pm
by MrBenn
I haven't voted in the poll, because I want to vote for "Use it, but make this amendment":
wilkinc wrote:It looks good, but could you also put a Max and Min button either side of each of the arrows to deploy either '1' or the full amount?
Could you make it so that there is ALSO a dropdown for less than 20 armies, for instance? Or would that be overkill?

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:58 pm
by Metsfanmax
MrBenn wrote:I haven't voted in the poll, because I want to vote for "Use it, but make this amendment":
wilkinc wrote:It looks good, but could you also put a Max and Min button either side of each of the arrows to deploy either '1' or the full amount?
Could you make it so that there is ALSO a dropdown for less than 20 armies, for instance? Or would that be overkill?
I think this is actually the best suggestion. Probably the best solution is to have the box appear if any territory on the map has > 20 troops, but only remove the dropdown menu if any territory has more than, say, 100 troops.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:42 pm
by BigBallinStalin
I'm sorry for a possible repeat of a question but will this feature be applied to the auto-assault as well?

That way I can pick how many I want to use for an auto-assault.

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:41 pm
by psychobkrazy
pmchugh wrote:It makes sense to me and it looks better. Although I didn't vote as I use clickies so it wont affect me at all.
I love it and this idea would make it even better. :)

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:55 am
by DueceB
I like the system a lot personally

Re: [Feedback Requested] Troop Quantity Picker

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:13 pm
by ender516
I like the new control, especially if it speeds loading a page. It definitely needs a Min and Max button, because once I drop down the menu form, I can use the Home and End keys to get this functionality, and I think it is quite common (say, when advancing) either to send everything you have onward, or to send little or nothing to a territory which is now safe, so you have maximal troops for attacking in another direction. For the Min and Max feature, try |<< and >>| buttons for international use. Another change you might consider is using a up arrow and a down arrow on the buttons, rather than a left and a right, in case this is confusing to those whose language reads from right to left, and may see a number line as increasing to the left instead of the right. I would be surprised to find anyone who didn't see larger numbers as being above smaller ones.

It should also be noted that once the current menu has dropped, you can also use the digit keys to pick entries, but it is a little weird. In the case of 400 entries, if I press 2 repeatedly, it will select, 2, 20, 21, 22, ... 28, 29, 200, 201, ... 298, 299. Not very natural, but it can be useful. Of course the up and down arrow keys can be used to go from one dropdown menu entry to another.

I would not like to see the control switching from one form to another depending on how many troops are in play, because it would require too much mental gear shifting from turn to turn or game to game, so taken altogether, I am voting for using the new control all the time. I am in favour, though, of making this a personal choice through the Control Panel, with the existing dropdown menu as the other option.