Conquer Club

I mean really, I don't mind them protesting, but why can't they pick up their own trash? Conservatives do, why can't you? Kay Daly complains about the trash left behind by the One Nation Rally, especially as the Geln Beck rally went out of their way to make sure all the trash was properly disposed of. "They came. They protested. They trashed the WWII memorial." LIke Kay one of my parents was a WWII veteran and I'm disgusted by how they trashed that place. It's time to take out the Liberal Trash! (I really wish you liberals would take out your own trash!)

tzor wrote:I mean really, I don't mind them protesting, but why can't they pick up their own trash? Conservatives do, why can't you? Kay Daly complains about the trash left behind by the One Nation Rally, especially as the Geln Beck rally went out of their way to make sure all the trash was properly disposed of. "They came. They protested. They trashed the WWII memorial." LIke Kay one of my parents was a WWII veteran and I'm disgusted by how they trashed that place. It's time to take out the Liberal Trash! (I really wish you liberals would take out your own trash!)

This is very interesting to me. I wonder if other venues shake out like this. Like say a Pro. wrestling event. I would imagine the overwhelming majority of those folks, are NOT liberals. But this all sounds suspect to me. Like more of a staged and planned happenstance. And, who is to say that one of those overzealous Young Republicans (that we see in the news lately) were the ones actually responsible for the littering. When I think of a cause, or issue such as littering. Conservatives, do not come to mind. But would love to see a study done on this subject.

Who are really the biggest litterers, Conservatives or Liberals.

I was at a bar and I threw peanut shells all over the floor. Am I a liberal or what?

bedub1 wrote:I was at a bar and I threw peanut shells all over the floor. Am I a liberal or what?

I was at a Bar where They had Barrel's of free peanuts. The floor was covered in what I first though, was sawdust. But I soon realized that it was actually peanut shell dust. They used rakes to "sweep" the floor.

bedub1 wrote:I was at a bar and I threw peanut shells all over the floor. Am I a liberal or what?

I don't think peanut shells count as "trash." Especially not in either designated bars or ballparks.

tzor wrote:

bedub1 wrote:I was at a bar and I threw peanut shells all over the floor. Am I a liberal or what?

I don't think peanut shells count as "trash." Especially not in either designated bars or ballparks.

Liberals do. Composted.. fine. Used as mulch around plants .. fine. Strewn on a cement bandstand or even highly manicured lawn... trash.

porkenbeans wrote:Who are really the biggest litterers, Conservatives or Liberals.

But, wait.. wasn't it conservationists who brought us recycling... and since they after all share the same root word, don't they mean exactly the same?

"Conservationist" sounds like "conservative" == must be the same?

PLAYER57832 wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:Who are really the biggest litterers, Conservatives or Liberals.

But, wait.. wasn't it conservationists who brought us recycling... and since they after all share the same root word, don't they mean exactly the same?

"Conservationist" sounds like "conservative" == must be the same?

While it is true that Both have the same root word (conserve), It is a question as to what the two LIKE to conserve. The Conservationist LIKES to conserve the environment. While the conservative LIKES to conserve the wallet. And if that is to the detriment of the environment, ...So be it.

Dirty consie.

(3 bonus points if you can spot the reference)

Wow, I wasn't expecting this thread to literally be about trash...

tzor wrote:I mean really, I don't mind them protesting, but why can't they pick up their own trash? Conservatives do, why can't you? Kay Daly complains about the trash left behind by the One Nation Rally, especially as the Geln Beck rally went out of their way to make sure all the trash was properly disposed of. "They came. They protested. They trashed the WWII memorial." LIke Kay one of my parents was a WWII veteran and I'm disgusted by how they trashed that place. It's time to take out the Liberal Trash! (I really wish you liberals would take out your own trash!)

Yeah, because conservatives don't litter....


Really, tzor? What a load of shit.

Liberal Socialist Trash would be an awesome name for a band

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, because conservatives don't litter....

Apparently, they don't. Unless you can show me photographic evidence of the Glenn Beck rally trash. I know the hordes that march on DC for the annual Pro Life rally on the anniversary of Roe vs Wade are exceptionally clean in the lack of mess they leave behind. I remember a few years ago, on the first tea party we made sure that no one dropped a single tea bag into the river in case the environmentalists would complain that the fish didn't get to sleep that night.

Oh and conservatives don't use paid schills to pad their astroturf rallies. They use real "grass roots" (even if occasionally fertalized with iron supplements to create a real "green" looking grass for the cameras).

DangerBoy wrote:Liberal Socialist Trash would be an awesome name for a band

Agreed. I'm picturing a hardcore punk band with shitty guitars, played super-fast. Total mosh pit status. Epic.

tzor wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, because conservatives don't litter....

Apparently, they don't. Unless you can show me photographic evidence of the Glenn Beck rally trash. I know the hordes that march on DC for the annual Pro Life rally on the anniversary of Roe vs Wade are exceptionally clean in the lack of mess they leave behind. I remember a few years ago, on the first tea party we made sure that no one dropped a single tea bag into the river in case the environmentalists would complain that the fish didn't get to sleep that night.

Oh and conservatives don't use paid schills to pad their astroturf rallies. They use real "grass roots" (even if occasionally fertalized with iron supplements to create a real "green" looking grass for the cameras).

Oh, please ONE rally wound up doing a decent job of cleaning up after itself and suddenly conservatives are taking care of the world, while Liberals are abusing it?

You have idiots and decent people in every group. How about working on how to get more people to just be decent, not trying to incorrectly label on group or another.

OH... we had the second Rainbow gathering" here in the Allgheny in 10 years this past summer. THOUSANDS of people, men, women, old people all camped out in the forest. You can see where they were, yes. However... no trash, no real damage.

To contrast... I wind up picking up trash from all kinds of other "wonderful, conservative" gatherings of less than 200 people!

So, at least in this area, it is not the conservatives making messes.

PLAYER57832 wrote:Oh, please ONE rally wound up doing a decent job of cleaning up after itself and suddenly conservatives are taking care of the world, while Liberals are abusing it?

I give the example of the one rally because it was not only an order of magnitude bigger than the other, it was an order of magnitude cleaner than the other. I'm not going to say it is a real liberal/conservative thing but I think it is rather a grass roots / astroturf problem. The latter, being paid to be a body there, doesn't care about anything. The former, being a grass roots group of people who actually hold everything in the mall in high esteem (even if they don't do the same for congress, or the white house staff) go out of their way to not ruin the image.

I know from a lot of antedoctial evidencee that this is exceptionally true betwen the pro-life and pro-choice rallies.

tzor wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, because conservatives don't litter....

Apparently, they don't. Unless you can show me photographic evidence of the Glenn Beck rally trash. I know the hordes that march on DC for the annual Pro Life rally on the anniversary of Roe vs Wade are exceptionally clean in the lack of mess they leave behind. I remember a few years ago, on the first tea party we made sure that no one dropped a single tea bag into the river in case the environmentalists would complain that the fish didn't get to sleep that night.

Oh and conservatives don't use paid schills to pad their astroturf rallies. They use real "grass roots" (even if occasionally fertalized with iron supplements to create a real "green" looking grass for the cameras).

You post one recent example for one side and one example for another side, then you lump each side under a vast category of either conservative or liberal. If you can't see the fault in that reasoning, then I can't really help you.

tzor wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Oh, please ONE rally wound up doing a decent job of cleaning up after itself and suddenly conservatives are taking care of the world, while Liberals are abusing it?

I give the example of the one rally because it was not only an order of magnitude bigger than the other, it was an order of magnitude cleaner than the other. I'm not going to say it is a real liberal/conservative thing but I think it is rather a grass roots / astroturf problem. The latter, being paid to be a body there, doesn't care about anything. The former, being a grass roots group of people who actually hold everything in the mall in high esteem (even if they don't do the same for congress, or the white house staff) go out of their way to not ruin the image.

I know from a lot of antedoctial evidencee that this is exceptionally true betwen the pro-life and pro-choice rallies.

BBS covers the main problem.

What you really show is that some organizers have done a good job of clean-up and others have not. Whether they are liberal or conservative is just cooincidental. To prove your point, you would have to show a clear trend over many rallies in many, many areas and show a clear , "statistically significant," difference.

Beyond that.. the bit about iron may boost appearance, but I would have to see more literature to decide it really is a good thing, overall.

Blah blah blah (you can't generalize against us ... only we can generalize against you). OK you liberal loonies and general Obama llamas, if you want to break the generialization then the ball is in your court. SHOW ME, one liberal protest in DC that cleaned up after itself or one conservative protest in DC that left a big mess. I'll tell you what. YOU CAN'T because THEY DON'T EXIST.

Now we can get to the how and why, but facts are facts and it seems you don't have any. Happy liberals trash the joint (celebration parties after the Obama Llama was inaugurated) and angry liberals trash the joint.

In fact, I wasn't going to complain about all the trash I've been seeing in this forum lately.

So, because liberals don't clean up after themselves, that means that their politics are wrong?

That's a bit of a stretch. You could say that they're selfish or something, but politics doesn't really have anything to do with this.

Besides, selfishness is a totally conservative trait.

Totally.

I asked them to share it with us liberals, but they said, "No. What do you think this is? Some kind of government hand-out festival?", and I said, "No. I'm sorry mr. conservative, sir." and then I ran like the dickens.