Conquer Club

Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>

I'm not a religious type but they are all going to say 'no'.

I give you the following quote:

"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof denies faith and without faith I am nothing"
God (apparently)

I don't know... if I were to guess I'd say he does need it...

But you're not a religious type, are you?

MeDeFe wrote:But you're not a religious type, are you?

yes I am... just I don't remember learning about that subject

The Kurgan wrote:Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>

no, he dosen't even need us.

I TOLD YOU SO!

griffin_slayer wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>

no, he dosen't even need us.

ditto,
he CREATED us, if he needed us there wouldnt be us, because he came before us.

Does that make sense?

But then why did he create us?

I'll let you play, Kurgan, don't be disappointed if the older kids win, though. We've had debates that have gone far over 1500 posts before they dropped off the first page of the board. Note that they weren't finished, people just stopped debating.

It'll never be finished.

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

MeDeFe wrote:We've had debates that have gone far over 1500 posts before they dropped off the first page of the board.

"Logic Dictates..." never dies, it just reappears as a new thread. Proof, if it were needed, of reincarnation!

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

dustn64 wrote:

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

Where we'd be happy, then our dumb*ss ancestors f*cked it up...

dustn64 wrote:

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

To live in complete ignorance you mean.

dustn64 wrote:

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

In my honest opinion, arguing about religion on the internet is like competing in the special olympics......win or lose, you're still a retard.

God's will, God's design - ergo, God's design flaws, god's fault.

I personally do not believe in a humanised version of a creator......end of.

The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible

cena-rules wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible

The Catholics don't think so. They believe the Protestants are going to Hell because :

1. They believe the Protestants are traitors.
2. Protestants don't confess.
3. Protestants don't listen to the Pope.

The Kurgan wrote:

cena-rules wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible

The Catholics don't think so. They believe the Protestants are going to Hell because :

1. They believe the Protestants are traitors.
2. Protestants don't confess.
3. Protestants don't listen to the Pope.

Not exactly true.

The catholic hierarchy think that all other christian faiths are not true faiths (including the orthadox religion for some silly reason), but i'm sure most of the flock don't really give a shit.

The Kurgan wrote:

dustn64 wrote:

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

To live in complete ignorance you mean.

Ignorance toward pain, suffering, and torture. I think I could live without it.

Minister Masket wrote:I give you the following quote:

"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof denies faith and without faith I am nothing"
God (apparently)

i'd say this is pretty definite to be honest

dustn64 wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:

dustn64 wrote:

Huckleberryhound wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

To live in complete ignorance you mean.

Ignorance toward pain, suffering, and torture. I think I could live without it.

Pain, suffering and torture - yes.
But ignorance to true happiness as well.