Conquer Club

The old system with the feedback was so much better.. i am sure a lot of players agree with me.
rating can be so misleading. a lot of ppl do that just to take the medal and then stop giving any rating. feedback can be more detailed and u can really show your opinion about someone. BRING FEEDBACK BACK!

True. Although I wasn't around when the feedback was used, I do think it's much better than the ratings.

its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

In the end, if you know what to look for, its actually not that misleading... the only time it really is, is with extremely new players typically. Again, the old feedback was the most accurate system, but it is physically impossible to implement and regulate it. It simply took too much mod power, and was too open-ended for a game like this

the old feedback system was without a doubt great at curbing outbursts, because one infraction could land you a justified negative feedback, where as now, you are allowed a few, before it has any real effect on your ratings

why is this coming up now... like half a year after the change? wasn't this already settled?

Naw, everyone still hates it, save the people who handled the complaints/abuse from the old system.

I for one think that the system is missleading. Everyone here has the same rating, except like 30 people. You know what I mean.

whitestazn88 wrote:why is this coming up now... like half a year after the change? wasn't this already settled?

I suppose it was, but the current system is total rubbish.

I have wondered if the wall could be adapted towards our purposes. Couldn't players leave feedback on a 'Games Feedback Wall'? Of course, the problem with this is that a great many players would delete any comments that didn't reflect well on them, but it would still allow for self-moderation.

AAFitz wrote:its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

In the end, if you know what to look for, its actually not that misleading... the only time it really is, is with extremely new players typically. Again, the old feedback was the most accurate system, but it is physically impossible to implement and regulate it. It simply took too much mod power, and was too open-ended for a game like this

the old feedback system was without a doubt great at curbing outbursts, because one infraction could land you a justified negative feedback, where as now, you are allowed a few, before it has any real effect on your ratings

Actually, the ratings can be a bit off in some situations. This is because some high ranked players often prefer to rate most players with 4 stars (not sure why they do that, maybe because they think 5 is only for "perfect" players). So you could be a major (who is a veteran, doesn't complain, has a great attitude, and good strategy/tactics) who wins a lot of games vs high ranked players but still get a rating of 4.5. Some drops in ratings can also be linked to people giving you bad ratings just because they lost.

Joodoo wrote:

AAFitz wrote:its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

In the end, if you know what to look for, its actually not that misleading... the only time it really is, is with extremely new players typically. Again, the old feedback was the most accurate system, but it is physically impossible to implement and regulate it. It simply took too much mod power, and was too open-ended for a game like this

the old feedback system was without a doubt great at curbing outbursts, because one infraction could land you a justified negative feedback, where as now, you are allowed a few, before it has any real effect on your ratings

Actually, the ratings can be a bit off in some situations. This is because some high ranked players often prefer to rate most players with 4 stars (not sure why they do that, maybe because they think 5 is only for "perfect" players). So you could be a major (who is a veteran, doesn't complain, has a great attitude, and good strategy/tactics) who wins a lot of games vs high ranked players but still get a rating of 4.5. Some drops in ratings can also be linked to people giving you bad ratings just because they lost.

not over time, over time, any player that doesnt complain alot will have a 4.7 or higher, I have never seen a rating too low on a player, unless they are brand new... if theyve played alot...the rating fits...certainly every game is different, but since the rating is only there to let you know what you might expect.... the rating works perfect

Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

I preferred the old system, but mainly cause I had perfect positive feedback on the old one. And it brings back memories to read them rather than just meanigless comments.

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

Seconded.

tsioumiou wrote:The old system with the feedback was so much better.. i am sure a lot of players agree with me.
rating can be so misleading. a lot of ppl do that just to take the medal and then stop giving any rating. feedback can be more detailed and u can really show your opinion about someone. BRING FEEDBACK BACK!

Not totally, your rating is 4.5, which means people should be wary that you have a sucky attitude in general. You are also on my foes list because of this sucky attitude, so I think rating isn't completely meaningless.

AAFitz wrote:its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

That basically just proved how the ratings are mis-leading, lol.

obliterationX wrote:

AAFitz wrote:its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

That basically just proved how the ratings are mis-leading, lol.

actually it proves that the ratings will give you an understanding of what kind of play you can expect from a player given their rating... which is the exact purpose of the rating, and why they arent misleading in any way

my rating of 4.8, is much more accurate than my 300-0 feebacks that i had under the old system...if anything, the new system is far more accurate

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

Timminz wrote:Seconded.

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

youll very rarely see complaints from 4.9s player, and quotes from any one with 4.5 or lower going over the line in chat, and complaining incessantly in game after game... doesnt get more accurate than that

only when the player is new, is the rating impossible to take at face value... it can easily be artificially high, or low

AAFitz wrote:

obliterationX wrote:

AAFitz wrote:its not as informative, and the old feedback was great..but it required way too much time to regulate

and while the new system isnt perfect....it does give most of the info you need, and the rating pretty much delivers what youd expect from a player

5.0= either new, or very quiet, and always top notch
4.9=again either new, or on the quiet side, and almost always polite
4.8=normal player, who might complain occasionally, but usually not over the top too much, and usually normal behavior
4.7=normal player, may or may not complain more than some, but still not usually too offensive
4.6=beginnings of a vocal player...can very easily be a great player still, but more likely to complain
4.5= this is the beginning, where you can simply expect complaints or bad behavior if they arent new
4.4 almost guaranteed to complain or be vocal, and possibly offensive
4.3-3.9 either very bad play, or unusually offensive and overly annoying
3.8 or lower will nearly guarantee either some form of bad play or some form of complaining
some will do both, and a quick check through their ratings will give an accurate picture

That basically just proved how the ratings are mis-leading, lol.

actually it proves that the ratings will give you an understanding of what kind of play you can expect from a player given their rating... which is the exact purpose of the rating, and why they arent misleading in any way

my rating of 4.8, is much more accurate than my 300-0 feebacks that i had under the old system...if anything, the new system is far more accurate

All I was saying is that you will find a bunch of people who are generally great, kind players, yet still hold a rating of less than 4.7 (not talking about myself ).

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

Timminz wrote:Seconded.

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

youll very rarely see complaints from 4.9s player, and quotes from any one with 4.5 or lower going over the line in chat, and complaining incessantly in game after game... doesnt get more accurate than that

only when the player is new, is the rating impossible to take at face value... it can easily be artificially high, or low

so not true. a lot of good rated players complain all the time. scott is a good example. depends on ur mood many of the times. feedback can show your attitude most of the times "in a better way". i dont like to put "tags" on ppl generally. rating is a kind of tagging. Taking out the feedback made this site "cheaper" in my opinion. guess coz i am used to rate only movies or paintings or articles at least. not people for sure.

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

I have NEVER been accused of being quiet...



and i have a pretty decent rating... hehehe

ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME???

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

Timminz wrote:Seconded.

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

You've changed the requirements. Not complaining a lot, is not the same as being quiet.

tsioumiou wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

Timminz wrote:Seconded.

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

youll very rarely see complaints from 4.9s player, and quotes from any one with 4.5 or lower going over the line in chat, and complaining incessantly in game after game... doesnt get more accurate than that

only when the player is new, is the rating impossible to take at face value... it can easily be artificially high, or low

so not true. a lot of good rated players complain all the time. scott is a good example. depends on ur mood many of the times. feedback can show your attitude most of the times "in a better way". i dont like to put "tags" on ppl generally. rating is a kind of tagging. Taking out the feedback made this site "cheaper" in my opinion. guess coz i am used to rate only movies or paintings or articles at least. not people for sure.

well you not wanting to use them is fine, but that doesnt mean they arent accurate....and a quick click on the ratings number tells you everything you need to know...

as far as the old feedback, it simply is impossible to implement... thousands of hours were spent regulating it, so it just isnt an option. The old system was by far more personal and informative, but since it is simply impossible to implement its irrelevant.

The new system is hardly perfect, however, its very easy to use, and gives all the info you need... especially in any average situation. the people with the low ratings are the same people with the high negative feedbacks... and the new system somewhat corrects for the players who play a lot of extra games, because an average is found, instead of a cumulative number

Im almost never surprised by a player and his rating... i see complaining, and invariably look up to see a low rating...sure some with low ratings play well, but the same could be said about neg feedbacks.

its just meant as a guide for the kind of player you can expect... and it really is accurate

But it seems to be falling on deaf ears...

so i'll say it again...

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

I have NEVER been accused of being quiet...



and i have a pretty decent rating... hehehe

ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME???

no, because i see the bottom half of some sweater puppies in the picture

Robinette wrote:

But it seems to be falling on deaf ears...

so i'll say it again...

AAFitz wrote:

nagerous wrote:Fitz, most 4.9 players aren't new players and aren't always quiet either... just popular .

oh really, show me a bunch of 4.9 players that complain alot in many games then...

I have NEVER been accused of being quiet...



and i have a pretty decent rating... hehehe

ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME???

4.9 all the way!

whitestazn88 wrote:no, because i see the bottom half of some sweater puppies in the picture

doesn't take much, does it...

okay... i'll show you my pair of sweater puppies... just this once...




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aw, isn't that the cutest thing ever...