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Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:41 pm
by captain.crazy
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/bstein ... dment-agai
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 1ST SESSION OF THE 52ND OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE, THE SENATE CONCURRING THEREIN:
THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
This is the beginning. If the Oklahoman Governor can get his head out of his ass and support the will of the people, We may be able to save the union.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:44 pm
by comic boy
Civil war will surely follow if this fails
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:50 pm
by captain.crazy
comic boy wrote:Civil war will surely follow if this fails
Roll your eyes all you want, This is serious legislation. More states going this rout will cause a split in the union... I can't wait for it.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:52 pm
by Nobunaga
... Texas was the first, wasn't it? Or was that just a speech?
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Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:53 pm
by captain.crazy
Nobunaga wrote:... Texas was the first, wasn't it? Or was that just a speech?
...
I believe that Texas actually signed it into law... it was their governor that announced the bill. I believe that he signed it into law.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:54 pm
by Nobunaga
captain.crazy wrote:Nobunaga wrote:... Texas was the first, wasn't it? Or was that just a speech?
...
I believe that Texas actually signed it into law... it was their governor that announced the bill. I believe that he signed it into law.
... Good for Texas.
...
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:57 pm
by Bruceswar
Nobunaga wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Nobunaga wrote:... Texas was the first, wasn't it? Or was that just a speech?
...
I believe that Texas actually signed it into law... it was their governor that announced the bill. I believe that he signed it into law.
... Good for Texas.
...
We are always the odd man out and I like it.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:07 pm
by comic boy
captain.crazy wrote:comic boy wrote:Civil war will surely follow if this fails
Roll your eyes all you want, This is serious legislation. More states going this rout will cause a split in the union... I can't wait for it.
You want to split the Union...........
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:11 pm
by InkL0sed
The 10th Amendment trumps the 14th Amendment why?
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:12 pm
by SultanOfSurreal
man if only all those "red states" seceded, we'd chop about 100 pounds off our average national weight
looking a little red there, oklahoma
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:20 pm
by captain.crazy
comic boy wrote:captain.crazy wrote:comic boy wrote:Civil war will surely follow if this fails
Roll your eyes all you want, This is serious legislation. More states going this rout will cause a split in the union... I can't wait for it.
You want to split the Union...........
I want the left to stop trying to kill the constitution. If that means a split in the union, then yes.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:21 pm
by Neoteny
If Georgia secedes, will there be an underground railroad to help get the logical people out? I don't think I can keep a straight face long enough to be a conductor...
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:21 pm
by Nobunaga
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:43 pm
by bedub1
HCR 1028 wrote:WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”; and
WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and
WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and
WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and
WHEREAS, many federal laws are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and
WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; and
WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 says, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”, and the Ninth Amendment states that ”The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”; and
WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and
WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 1ST SESSION OF THE 52ND OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE, THE SENATE CONCURRING THEREIN:
THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.
THAT all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.
THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate of each state’s legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation.
And I, being of sound heart and mind, do pledge my life to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies both foreign and within.
Declaration of Independence wrote:...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
Take THAT federal government! Lets all go join the State Militia!
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:21 pm
by captain.crazy
Neoteny wrote:If Georgia secedes, will there be an underground railroad to help get the logical people out? I don't think I can keep a straight face long enough to be a conductor...
Fucking Loyalist!
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:29 pm
by Samuraipizzaguy
Damn Virginia is blue!!!
good thing i'm moving to australia soon
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:40 pm
by captain.crazy
Samuraipizzaguy wrote:Damn Virginia is blue!!!
good thing i'm moving to australia soon
ummm... isn't Australia more liberal than Virginia? And I think VA will return to the red column...
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:41 pm
by SultanOfSurreal
Neoteny wrote:If Georgia secedes, will there be an underground railroad to help get the logical people out? I don't think I can keep a straight face long enough to be a conductor...
not likely. these unbelievably fat morons are far too cowardly to attempt literal secession, unfortunately. they talk a big game but when push comes to shove they really don't have a problem with the current state of government -- not when there's sweet, sweet stimulus money to be had.
say what you will about jefferson davis and his brothers-in-treason but at least they had the balls to fight when uncle sam wanted to take their house negroes away. the people in today's south can't even mount a coherent movement against a black president with Hussein for a middle name. they're about 20 lightyears away from armed rebellion, unless you count dickless hand-wringing on the internet as arms
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:59 am
by Iliad
Samuraipizzaguy wrote:Damn Virginia is blue!!!
good thing i'm moving to australia soon
Well f*ck.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:11 am
by F1fth
What people aren't realizing is that the original version of this bill (which was vetoed) was issued in June of 2008, back when George W. Bush was president. So, it was really red states defending themselves against the tyranny of the president they voted to elect.
If this is passed, I say good riddance. Oklahomans were a bunch of fuckin' panhandlers. (THANK YOU, THANK YOU).
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:26 am
by Skittles!
Iliad wrote:Samuraipizzaguy wrote:Damn Virginia is blue!!!
good thing i'm moving to australia soon
Well f*ck.
I can't wait.
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:38 am
by Nobunaga
F1fth wrote:What people aren't realizing is that the original version of this bill (which was vetoed) was issued in June of 2008, back when George W. Bush was president. So, it was really red states defending themselves against the tyranny of the president they voted to elect.
If this is passed, I say good riddance. Oklahomans were a bunch of fuckin' panhandlers. (THANK YOU, THANK YOU).
... What do you think this is? It's not a vote to leave the union.
...
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:46 am
by MeDeFe
There are communist states in America? And they want to secede?
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:02 am
by captain.crazy
F1fth wrote:What people aren't realizing is that the original version of this bill (which was vetoed) was issued in June of 2008, back when George W. Bush was president. So, it was really red states defending themselves against the tyranny of the president they voted to elect.
If this is passed, I say good riddance. Oklahomans were a bunch of fuckin' panhandlers. (THANK YOU, THANK YOU).
It doesn't seem to me that you read the legislation... They are asserting that the federal government stop oppressing states and abusing its authority by treating the states as agents of the federal government, when the federal government is supposed to be a representative body of the states. The federal government has become a monster... it needs to be killed
Re: Red States Defend themselves against tyranny
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:14 am
by Hatchman
Holy sh*t Republicans are even worse sucks than I imagined
