Conquer Club

I think there might already be a topic about this, but I can't find it.

If a woman has an STD, whether it's AIDS or Herpes etc, should she be required by law disclose this information to her partner prior to copulation? What if she doesn't and gives you the HIV? Should she be charged with Manslaughter? What about the Herpes? Should she be charged with criminal assault or something?

(Same question for the opposite, where man has disease and needs to inform woman, or Lesbians and Gays as well)

*Cue King Herpes*

Most people don't know that they have the diseases, though. If you made it mandatory, you'd have to make checkups mandatory too.

john9blue wrote:*Cue King Herpes*

Most people don't know that they have the diseases, though. If you made it mandatory, you'd have to make checkups mandatory too.

which certainly is a tricky thing to pay for.

If prior knowledge can be proven, then most definitely hit them with something. Manslaughter isn't quite right, it almost deserves a category of its own.

Either way, I've heard some over the top stories. I forget where I heard this (some presentation from back when I was in high school), but I heard about a nurse who, after giving some guy test results showing him to be HIV Positive, watched as he told his girlfriend he was clean. They hugged and walked off...the funny thing is, if she'd warned the girl she could have been sued.

Frigidus wrote:If prior knowledge can be proven, then most definitely hit them with something. Manslaughter isn't quite right, it almost deserves a category of its own.

Either way, I've heard some over the top stories. I forget where I heard this (some presentation from back when I was in high school), but I heard about a nurse who, after giving some guy test results showing him to be HIV Positive, watched as he told his girlfriend he was clean. They hugged and walked off...the funny thing is, if she'd warned the girl she could have been sued.

I completely agree. it hinges on "prior knowledge" because you can only inform a potential partner of a condition if you are aware you have it. So would this lead to people not getting tested?

If you know you've got the HIV, and you give it to somebody else, I think you should be charged with murder. HIV is basically a death sentence unless you are Magic Johnson.

How about a brand on the forehead for HIV+s ?

neanderpaul14 wrote:How about a brand on the forehead for HIV+s ?

That sounds about in line with what bedub is saying.

neanderpaul14 wrote:How about a brand on the forehead for HIV+s ?

I wouldn't go that far....

bedub1 wrote:

neanderpaul14 wrote:How about a brand on the forehead for HIV+s ?

I wouldn't go that far....

Brand them somewhere else then??

neanderpaul14 wrote:

bedub1 wrote:

neanderpaul14 wrote:How about a brand on the forehead for HIV+s ?

I wouldn't go that far....

Brand them somewhere else then??

No, not at all. I just believe people should be allowed to make informed decisions. Not telling your potential partner that you have a deadly disease that is passed by sexual contact and them then becoming infected with said deadly disease is paramount to murder in my opinion.

Frigidus wrote:If prior knowledge can be proven, then most definitely hit them with something. Manslaughter isn't quite right, it almost deserves a category of its own.

Criminal negligence is probably the most you could get.

I thought there were already laws that HIV patients had to disclose it to their partners, but I could be wrong. The disease doesn't affect me, so I don't pay attention to that type of stuff.

criminal negligence with malicious intent perhaps

assault with a deadly weapon

neanderpaul14 wrote:assault with a deadly weapon

Loitering?

bedub1 wrote:If you know you've got the HIV, and you give it to somebody else, I think you should be charged with murder. HIV is basically a death sentence unless you are Magic Johnson.

Tell that to the 40-something homosexual pot-smoking bi-polar guy I know that's been HIV positive for years now. HIV used to be a death sentence, but now they have enough drugs to have you lead a fairly normal life. It sucks, sure. But it's not a death sentence by any means.

Also, I think if you're caught knowingly transmitting HIV you can be charged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_t ... ion_of_HIV
Which is how it should be. Despite not being a death sentence, it's still a very negative affect on your life, and so it should be a criminal offence.

hecter wrote:

bedub1 wrote:If you know you've got the HIV, and you give it to somebody else, I think you should be charged with murder. HIV is basically a death sentence unless you are Magic Johnson.

Tell that to the 40-something homosexual pot-smoking bi-polar guy I know that's been HIV positive for years now. HIV used to be a death sentence, but now they have enough drugs to have you lead a fairly normal life. It sucks, sure. But it's not a death sentence by any means.

Also, I think if you're caught knowingly transmitting HIV you can be charged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_t ... ion_of_HIV
Which is how it should be. Despite not being a death sentence, it's still a very negative affect on your life, and so it should be a criminal offence.

Thanks for the link Hecter. I wonder if there is something similar for Herpes. It doesn't kill you, but you have to live with it for the rest of your life.

Wouldn't this just completely disclose any sense of mystery or suspense in a budding relationship? And what ever happened to loving a person for who they are instead of what they don't have? You damn moralist's are all the same!

King_Herpes wrote:Wouldn't this just completely disclose any sense of mystery or suspense in a budding relationship? And what ever happened to loving a person for who they are instead of what they don't have? You damn moralist's are all the same!

holy shit who died and made you conqueror?

Night Strike wrote:
I thought there were already laws that HIV patients had to disclose it to their partners, but I could be wrong. The disease doesn't affect me, so I don't pay attention to that type of stuff.

You're not human? That's how you can lock 109,742 threads in one night.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...

kiddicus maximus wrote:

Night Strike wrote:
I thought there were already laws that HIV patients had to disclose it to their partners, but I could be wrong. The disease doesn't affect me, so I don't pay attention to that type of stuff.

You're not human? That's how you can lock 109,742 threads in one night.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...

lock 109,742 threads in one night?

Just a quote from Hal - the AI unit in 2001: A space odyssey.

kiddicus maximus wrote:Just a quote from Hal - the AI unit in 2001: A space odyssey.

that movie sucked. and I LOVE science fiction.