Conquer Club

GrimReaper. wrote:it was rigged... what else can i say?

Iran’s Interior Ministry has declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner of yesterday’s election. This has been rejected by all the three opponents of Mr. Ahmadinejad, Messrs Mir Hossein Mousavi, Mahdi Karroubi, and Mohsen Rezaaee.


The best evidence for the validity of the arguments of the three opponents of the President for rejecting the results declared by the Interior Ministry is the data the Ministry itself has issued. In the chart below, compiled based on the data released by the Ministry and announced by Iran’s national television, a perfect linear relation between the votes received by the President and Mir Hossein Mousavi has been maintained, and the President’s vote is always half of the President’s. The vertical axis (y) shows Mr. Mousavi’s votes, and the horizontal (x) the President’s. R^2 shows the correlation coefficient: the closer it is to 1.0, the more perfect is the fit, and it is 0.9995, as close to 1.0 as possible for any type of data.


Statistically and mathematically, it is impossible to maintain such perfect linear relations between the votes of any two candidates in any election — and at all stages of vote counting. This is particularly true about Iran, a large country with a variety of ethnic groups who usually vote for a candidate who is ethnically one of their own. For example, in the present elections, Mr. Mousavi is an Azeri and speaks Turkish. The Azeries make up 1/4 of all the eligible voters in Iran and in his trips to Azerbaijan province, where most of the Azeri population lives, Mr. Mousavi had been greeted by huge rallies in support of his campaign. Likewise, Mr. Karroubi, the other reformist candidate, is a Lor. But according to the data released by Iran’s Interior Ministry, in both cases, Mr. Ahmadinejad has far outdone both candidates in their own provinces of birth and among their own ethnic populations.

Snorri1234 wrote:Well I was wondering why noone was talking about this so I decided to make a thread myself.

SultanOfSurreal wrote:shit's getting real heavy. the office of election oversight declared ahmenijad's victory invalid and there are rumors that the ayatollah's residence is surrounded by police. iran is blocking foreign news feeds too.

StiffMittens wrote:

SultanOfSurreal wrote:shit's getting real heavy. the office of election oversight declared ahmenijad's victory invalid and there are rumors that the ayatollah's residence is surrounded by police. iran is blocking foreign news feeds too.

That's Ayatollah Sanei, not Khamenei, right?

Night Strike wrote:Some of us follow the news a lot more than we post here.

That is an interesting graph. I would normally suspect a conspiracy theory, but dictatorial regimes are typically none for conspiracies. I had heard one report yesterday that the main challenger did not even win his hometown. Was that confirmed or changed?

Snorri1234 wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Some of us follow the news a lot more than we post here.

That is an interesting graph. I would normally suspect a conspiracy theory, but dictatorial regimes are typically none for conspiracies. I had heard one report yesterday that the main challenger did not even win his hometown. Was that confirmed or changed?

Last I heard that was confirmed. Not only his hometown but he lost among the ethnic group he's a part off.

I mean, how fucked up is that? They're not even trying hard to pretend this election isn't a fraud. A guy loses in his own hometown among his own ethnic group to the current leader?

Snorri1234 wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Some of us follow the news a lot more than we post here.

That is an interesting graph. I would normally suspect a conspiracy theory, but dictatorial regimes are typically none for conspiracies. I had heard one report yesterday that the main challenger did not even win his hometown. Was that confirmed or changed?

Last I heard that was confirmed. Not only his hometown but he lost among the ethnic group he's a part off.

I mean, how fucked up is that? They're not even trying hard to pretend this election isn't a fraud. A guy loses in his own hometown among his own ethnic group to the current leader?

danfrank wrote:I didnt read the thread just the opening point. I agree this was a huge election. Things could have changed diplomatically in the region. Instead it was a fraud as you stated. But to be expected with a tyrant. Also if i was a person in iran.. Why do i have to stick my ballot in a box?? With all the technology that alone would indicate a fraud...

Neoteny wrote:Hopefully this will turn into a good thing. It's good to hear people are pissed off about this.

Snorri1234 wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Some of us follow the news a lot more than we post here.

That is an interesting graph. I would normally suspect a conspiracy theory, but dictatorial regimes are typically none for conspiracies. I had heard one report yesterday that the main challenger did not even win his hometown. Was that confirmed or changed?

Last I heard that was confirmed. Not only his hometown but he lost among the ethnic group he's a part off.

I mean, how fucked up is that? They're not even trying hard to pretend this election isn't a fraud.

Nobunaga wrote:... I don't get all the hubub over this election, most probably due to my lack of knowledge on how Iran works, politically.

... Who here knows the authority and responsibility of the office of president in Iran? It was my belief that the president in that nation is pretty much a mouth piece for Ali Khamenei, with very little actual or true authority vested in the office.

... Somebody who knows something about this chime in please.

...

Night Strike wrote:What will be even worse is when Obama's administration chooses to sit down and talk to him, which will just legitimize his illegal keeping of the Iranian Presidency. I hope Obama steps up and calls Iran out for the frauds they've committed. I'm not holding my breath though.