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Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:15 pm
by Simon Viavant
We're still going to run out of fossil fuels whether global warming exists or not, so we still need to develop renewable energy, which is the same thing we need to do for global warming.
Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:48 pm
by LYR
Simon Viavant wrote:Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
I like this idea the best
Oh wait, SHIT!!!!
That is my generation! (kinda)
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:49 pm
by LYR
Depends on how old you are...
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:03 pm
by captain.crazy
Simon Viavant wrote:We're still going to run out of fossil fuels whether global warming exists or not, so we still need to develop renewable energy, which is the same thing we need to do for global warming.
Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
I am all for renewable energy, but I think that politicians making vast amounts of wealth on the carbon taxation based on false science is lame.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:44 pm
by oVo
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:52 pm
by EvilPurpleMonkey
captain.crazy wrote:Simon Viavant wrote:We're still going to run out of fossil fuels whether global warming exists or not, so we still need to develop renewable energy, which is the same thing we need to do for global warming.
Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
I am all for renewable energy, but I think that politicians making vast amounts of wealth on the carbon taxation based on false science is lame.
What?
Politicians only make money off of carbon tax so long as people continue to use fossil fuels, so, carbon tax does nothing if you are using green energy. And many politicians already have their fingers in the petro-chemical pie, and as such are already making profits from this.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:56 pm
by thegreekdog
EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:What?
Politicians only make money off of carbon tax so long as people continue to use fossil fuels, so, carbon tax does nothing if you are using green energy. And many politicians already have their fingers in the petro-chemical pie.
Yeah, it's kind of a weird dynamic (which is interesting to me). So, as an example, Al Gore is probably going to make some money off of the carbon tax, so he has a vested economic interest in people continuing to use fossil fuels. However, he continues to maintain that the use of fossil fuels is a bad thing for the environment. I'll give the ex-VP the benefit of the doubt and say he's more interested in saving the earth than saving money, but it's very interesting.
It's like the tobacco taxes. The amount of money they generate is no doubt astounding. However, they were put in place ostensibly to stop people from smoking. But, if people stopped smoking, they'd stop paying taxes. Oh... the conundrum these crazy politicians get themselves in.
Wait until there's a breathing tax. "Mr. dog, you've breathed 50 times this minute, please send a check to the US Department of Treaury for $1,000."
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:02 pm
by AAFitz
thegreekdog wrote:EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:
It's like the tobacco taxes. The amount of money they generate is no doubt astounding. However, they were put in place ostensibly to stop people from smoking. But, if people stopped smoking, they'd stop paying taxes. Oh... the conundrum these crazy politicians get themselves in.
The taxes from cigarettes don't come close to paying for the health care costs they have created, and cost both states and the fed.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:24 pm
by cowboyz
Simon Viavant wrote:We're still going to run out of fossil fuels whether global warming exists or not, so we still need to develop renewable energy, which is the same thing we need to do for global warming.
Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
Al Gore and Co. have certainly done a mind job on you...
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:44 pm
by StiffMittens
thegreekdog wrote:"Mr. dog, you've breathed 50 times this minute, please send a check to the US Department of Treaury for $1,000."
Dude, you're going to hyperventilate. Slow down.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:49 pm
by strike wolf
Simon Viavant wrote:We're still going to run out of fossil fuels whether global warming exists or not, so we still need to develop renewable energy, which is the same thing we need to do for global warming.
Or we could just say it's our grandchildrens' problem and have fun while we can.
THis thread speaks the truth. I mean we're overdue for alternative sources of energies anyway. It's time we move on into the future
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:03 pm
by sully800
AAFitz wrote:The taxes from cigarettes don't come close to paying for the health care costs they have created, and cost both states and the fed.
Yes, but if everyone lived healthy lifestyles they would live several years longer, increasing the average life expectancy and the world population. This additional strain on global resources costs a lot more than people who die young.
Re: Let's protend global warming doesn't exist
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:27 am
by thegreekdog
StiffMittens wrote:thegreekdog wrote:"Mr. dog, you've breathed 50 times this minute, please send a check to the US Department of Treaury for $1,000."
Dude, you're going to hyperventilate. Slow down.
I thought about counting breaths for a minute, but thought better of it...