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satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:50 pm
by captain.crazy
Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:53 pm
by jonesthecurl
Oh, OK, I'm convinced.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:56 pm
by Martin Ronne
Better no one make a joke of how he decide to phrase "Horny little devil."
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:56 pm
by strike wolf
I hear Satan's the guy who sticks things up people's asses so that they'll act like a dick 24/7.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:57 pm
by Woodruff
captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:00 pm
by jonesthecurl
BTW, I am a Jones. And I am curly.
You my friend are not a captain.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:03 pm
by Martin Ronne
Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Prove he doesn't.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:05 pm
by captain.crazy
Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Your ego is practically all the proof that anyone could possibly need.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:06 pm
by jonesthecurl
Martin Ronne wrote:Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Prove he doesn't.
Well, I'm a rational human being and...oh, job done.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:12 pm
by Woodruff
Martin Ronne wrote:Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Prove he doesn't.
It is factually impossible to prove an existential negative. Therefore, it is incumbent on the claimant for proof. He has provided none.
captain.crazy wrote:Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Your ego is practically all the proof that anyone could possibly need.
It is not arrogance in any way to demand proof. In fact, it is the utmost in arrogance to make a statement and be unwilling to provide any. It is you who is arrogant in this instance.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:17 pm
by jonesthecurl
Not sure who I'm refuting here.
Prove cap'n crazy exists. prove cap'n Crunch exists. Prove I exist.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:19 pm
by Martin Ronne
Woodruff wrote:It is factually impossible to prove an existential negative.
Thank you.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:23 pm
by Woodruff
jonesthecurl wrote:Not sure who I'm refuting here.
Prove cap'n crazy exists. prove cap'n Crunch exists. Prove I exist.
True enough. There is an aspect of philosophy that posits that everything exists only in my consciousness, and there is no real world outside of it. I don't recall what it's called, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but most of you have probably heard of it anyway.
That being said, there is real reason to believe that you exist (not necessarily someone named "jonesthecurl", but rather the actual entity behind the alias/avatar). I have seen no evidence at all to believe that the actual entity known as Satan actually exists.
Re: satan?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:34 pm
by oVo
Jesus healed my truck through prayer,
is that enough proof for you?
and
What's a rittle?
small in Japanese?
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:02 am
by captain.crazy
Woodruff wrote:Martin Ronne wrote:Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Prove he doesn't.
It is factually impossible to prove an existential negative. Therefore, it is incumbent on the claimant for proof. He has provided none.
captain.crazy wrote:Woodruff wrote:captain.crazy wrote:Sometimes, I talk about this elusive fellow, Satan, and some of you laugh. Sure, you sicker and joke... but satan is not a horney little devil with a bad sunburn. Satan is the element within humanity that convinces you... that you are better than God. Or anyone else, for that matter. Bildebergers are rittles with satanic philosophy. they believe that they can profit from the demise of others (which indeed, they do) and that they can eventually merge with technology to become everlasting immortals.
Satan, is that egotistical voice that tells you that you are smarter than God. That you are better than God, and that you are better than someone else. Does he exist? Absolutely. Does he have an agenda? without question. Is his influence present in the geo-political area. You betcha!
The best thing that you can do for your self, for your life eternal, is to learn the teachings of Jesus christ, to reach out and touch the kingdom of heaven, for inded, it is not far.
Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Your ego is practically all the proof that anyone could possibly need.
It is not arrogance in any way to demand proof. In fact, it is the utmost in arrogance to make a statement and be unwilling to provide any. It is you who is arrogant in this instance.
You are suggesting that negativity does not exist? And your arrogance is in that you refuse to examine even your own sinnful nature for fear that you may conclude that you are in fact incorrect. Your own ego tells you that you are in complete control of your self, and that you are not under the control of anything other than your own conscience. You mistake your ego for your conscience and it keeps you in denial.
Meanwhile, you fully support the current adminiatration's entitlement propaganda, leading to the perception that you are infact, a self entitleist, wishing for the state to provide for you and others.
To conclude, I can show you all the evidence in the world about satan and God, I would introduce you to christ and you could shake his pierced hands... But you would still refuse to believe... because you have no desire to believe it. You would rather put your stock into the Obama Adminiatration. You can't fathon that satan is in the seat of power over this earth... and is about to exercise his tyrannical reign over us all... Even when that happens, you are going to write it off as something else. Despite the fact that this has all been written in the book of revelations.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:14 am
by Woodruff
captain.crazy wrote:Woodruff wrote:Satan does not exist in any form or format. Prove that Satan exists.
Your ego is practically all the proof that anyone could possibly need.
It is not arrogance in any way to demand proof. In fact, it is the utmost in arrogance to make a statement and be unwilling to provide any. It is you who is arrogant in this instance.
captain.crazy wrote:You are suggesting that negativity does not exist?
It is fascinating to me how willing you are to try to put words into my mouth. That seems to lack integrity an awful lot...a sad situation for someone who claims to be a follower of Christ. No wonder I don't consider you to be very Christ-like!
I have never said nor suggested in ANY way that negativity does not exist. In fact, your very presence in these forums is chock full of negativity.
I have simply stated that Satan does not exist in any form or format, and asked you to prove your statement that he does.
captain.crazy wrote:And your arrogance is in that you refuse to examine even your own sinnful nature for fear that you may conclude that you are in fact incorrect.
And here you are not only trying to put words into my mouth, but in fact going so far as to PRESUME that you know anything at all about my nature, sinful or otherwise, apart from what has been posed in these forums. Again, this is strongly lacking in integrity...a sad state for someone who claims to be a follower of Christ. No wonder I don't consider you to be very Christ-like!
captain.crazy wrote:Your own ego tells you that you are in complete control of your self, and that you are not under the control of anything other than your own conscience.
Actually, my ego tells me nothing of the sort. And you would know that quite well, if you bothered to actually READ what others (which would include me) wrote in these forums, rather than immediately leaping to presumptions and conclusions that don't have an iota of basis in fact. Again, not the actions of one who would be Christ-like!
captain.crazy wrote:You mistake your ego for your conscience and it keeps you in denial.
The ego that is being displayed so prominently here is not mine, but rather yours. And it's an ugly sight to behold, too. Not very Christ-like!
captain.crazy wrote:Meanwhile, you fully support the current adminiatration's entitlement propaganda, leading to the perception that you are infact, a self entitleist, wishing for the state to provide for you and others.
I've already stated quite plainly that, as a high school teacher, I am quite clearly not only a part of the elite but am in fact controlling the New World Order. I've stated this several times...I'm not sure why you haven't figured it out yet.
captain.crazy wrote:To conclude, I can show you all the evidence in the world about satan and God
You state that you can show me "all the evidence in the world" and yet what you cannot show me is any PROOF. You attempt to make statements of fact, but there is no proof behind them, showing quite clearly to everyone that they are not, in fact, statements of fact. I am still waiting for your proof...do you have any?
captain.crazy wrote:I would introduce you to christ and you could shake his pierced hands
You can do no such thing, and it is arrogance for you to say that you can. Arrogance...not so Christ-like.
captain.crazy wrote:You would rather put your stock into the Obama Adminiatration.
I would? Do you even read anything I write?
captain.crazy wrote:You can't fathon that satan is in the seat of power over this earth... and is about to exercise his tyrannical reign over us all... Even when that happens, you are going to write it off as something else. Despite the fact that this has all been written in the book of revelations.
Satan does not exist unless you can prove to me that he does. You may begin now. Thanks!
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:15 am
by Timminz
captain.crazy wrote:You are suggesting that negativity does not exist?
Is that honestly what you took him to mean?
That's right up there with thinking that people worship hammers as gods.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:19 am
by StiffMittens
captain.crazy wrote:I would introduce you to christ and you could shake his pierced hands.
But don't squeeze too hard, they're still very tender.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:20 am
by Woodruff
Timminz wrote:captain.crazy wrote:You are suggesting that negativity does not exist?
Is that honestly what you took him to mean?
That's right up there with thinking that people worship hammers as gods.
Naw, he knows better. This is simply the typical tap dance that SOME religious people go through when confronted with the FACT that they cannot accept that their religion is based entirely on faith and not on fact. It's like they can't help but try to deny it and only make themselves look foolish in trying to justify it in any other way.
The rational religious folks not only accept that their religion is entirely faith-based but in fact consider that to be the most important thing about it.
He's basically just trying to distract from the valid points I make in that regard.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:25 am
by captain.crazy
It is factually impossible to prove an existential negative.
ex⋅is⋅ten⋅tial [eg-zi-sten-shuhl, ek-si-] Show IPA
–adjective 1. pertaining to existence.
To paraphrase what you said earlier:
It is impossible to prove that negativity exists.
It is what you said.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:27 am
by Timminz
Woodruff wrote:Timminz wrote:captain.crazy wrote:You are suggesting that negativity does not exist?
Is that honestly what you took him to mean?
That's right up there with thinking that people worship hammers as gods.
Naw, he knows better. This is simply the typical tap dance that SOME religious people go through when confronted with the FACT that they cannot accept that their religion is based entirely on faith and not on fact. It's like they can't help but try to deny it and only make themselves look foolish in trying to justify it in any other way.
The rational religious folks not only accept that their religion is entirely faith-based but in fact consider that to be the most important thing about it.
He's basically just trying to distract from the valid points I make in that regard.
He also claims that the NWO, and aliens, and whatever else, are going to take over the world, and remove all our rights (pronounced "guns")within the next couple weeks, and that he is totally prepared to "head for the hills", with his gold, and guns, and food, and family. Good luck getting anything more than you're already getting out of him.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:29 am
by Woodruff
captain.crazy wrote:It is factually impossible to prove an existential negative.
ex⋅is⋅ten⋅tial [eg-zi-sten-shuhl, ek-si-] Show IPA
–adjective 1. pertaining to existence.
To paraphrase what you said earlier:
It is impossible to prove that negativity exists.
It is what you said.
I didn't think I'd have to give you a grammar lesson, but it appears that I must.
So..."existential negative"...in other words, pertaining to negative existence. Thus, it is factually impossible to prove a negative existence, which was what was requested when someone said to prove that Satan does not exist. I could not prove that, because it is, in fact, impossible to do.
You, on the other hand, have declared an existential positive...that something does in fact exist. It is factually VERY possible (and pretty much unavoidable if one wants to be taken seriously) to prove an existential positive, which was what I requested that you do when you said that Satan existed. So...you may do so now.
Timminz wrote:Woodruff wrote:Timminz wrote:captain.crazy wrote:You are suggesting that negativity does not exist?
Is that honestly what you took him to mean?
That's right up there with thinking that people worship hammers as gods.
Naw, he knows better. This is simply the typical tap dance that SOME religious people go through when confronted with the FACT that they cannot accept that their religion is based entirely on faith and not on fact. It's like they can't help but try to deny it and only make themselves look foolish in trying to justify it in any other way.
The rational religious folks not only accept that their religion is entirely faith-based but in fact consider that to be the most important thing about it.
He's basically just trying to distract from the valid points I make in that regard.
He also claims that the NWO, and aliens, and whatever else, are going to take over the world, and remove all our rights (pronounced "guns")within the next couple weeks, and that he is totally prepared to "head for the hills", with his gold, and guns, and food, and family. Good luck getting anything more than you're already getting out of him.
It is interesting that he hasn't in fact already "headed for the hills", given that claim of his. I wonder if he was lying...that wouldn't be very Christ-like.
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:38 am
by joecoolfrog
Why so much fuss about a character from a fairy tale , now if you wanna talk about that evil Little Mermaid...........

Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:59 am
by Danyael
i love seitan its so tasty mmmmm
wheres a great recipe
Ingredients (use vegan versions):
1 cup vital wheat gluten
3/4 cup broth
2 tablespoons soy sauce or Braggs Liquid Aminos
2 teaspoons seasoning of choice (I use vegan powdered chicken or beef bouillon, and nori for fish flavour)
6 cups broth for cooking (can add sliced onion and soy sauce for extra flavor)
Directions:
1. Mix flour and spices.
2. In a measure cup, add soy sauce to the 3/4 cup broth.
3. Add liquid to dry. Stir till it comes together.( Add some of the broth 1 teaspoon at a time if you need to.)
4. Now put your large pot of broth on to boil. When that’s taken care of, knead your ball of rubbery stuff for 10-15 min. Let rest for 5, then knead a few times more. Now make sure the broth on the stove is just simmering. A full boil will ruin the seitan.
5. Cut pieces off the dough and do your best to stretch into thin patty-like cutlet shapes,...thinner is better.
6. Drop the cutlets into the broth and simmer away for an hour or two..then let the broth cool on its own.
7. You can keep the seitan in its broth in the fridge for about 5 days, or freeze it. This can also be wizzed in a blender to make a ground meat substance.
Serves: 5-8 cutlets
Preparation time: 2 hours
Re: satan?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:07 am
by Skittles!
I love my BES