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Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:46 am
by Gillipig
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Re: Why did I post this?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:03 am
by Gillipig
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Re: Why did I post this?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:57 am
by Serbia
Because you're a spamming troll.

Re: Why did I post this?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:10 am
by oVo
because you're tired of spending so much time on this site?

Re: Why did I post this?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:37 am
by Gillipig
The one with Santa is really funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:50 am
by Gillipig
If you think that I'm being deliberately offensive then you've hurt my feelings and I will SUE YOU!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:55 am
by King Berzerker
this images need to be deleted.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:00 am
by jiminski
Gillipig wrote:If you think that I'm being deliberately offensive then you've heart my feelings and I will SUE YOU!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

i think you mean 'hurt'

i am not sure how the first one would be offensive .. i'll keep looking.. but he looks a bit like Bob Marley after a dooby. Edit: ahhh i pressed the enlarge image... not really that offensive i think ... from what i know about the scriptures and if they bear any relevance to the actual person then he likely does think we are pretty silly but wouldn't say it ...

the crapping Santa .. well there is at least one Christian culture with a tradition of having a pooping figure in the Nativity scenes... so perhaps it's not quite as universally offensive to Christians as we may imagine.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:02 am
by Gillipig
King Berzerker wrote:this images need to be deleted.
Nah you should be deleted, cuz you're a multi [-X !

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:09 am
by Gillipig
jiminski wrote:
Gillipig wrote:If you think that I'm being deliberately offensive then you've heart my feelings and I will SUE YOU!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

i think you mean 'hurt'

i am not sure how the first one would be offensive .. i'll keep looking.. but he looks a bit like Bob Marley after a dooby. Edit: ahhh i pressed the enlarge image... not really that offensive i think ... from what i know about the scriptures and if they bear any relevance to the actual person then he likely does think we are pretty silly but wouldn't say it ...

the crapping Santa .. well there is at least one Christian culture with a tradition of having a pooping figure in the Nativity scenes... so perhaps it's not quite as universally offensive to Christians as we may imagine.
:lol: Yeah maybe this is a turn on for some christians :mrgreen: !
I have some more wanking material for them :shock: mod edit
Also a funny one if you ask me (the hole homo, and incest thing and... well you understand :D )

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:37 am
by jiminski
i am not sure that it's incest as such .. perhaps more a mockery of the ultimate act of narcissism. (and really just the literal depiction of an expression)

anyway, less easy to defend on the grounds of ambiguity but i think Christianity can take it!
for me, being able to take mockery is the sign of strength and self-confidence. It is only religions without those which generally get in a stew about such attempts to rile them.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:47 am
by King Berzerker
if these were about islam, they would be deleted. ur a jerk

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:51 am
by jiminski
King Berzerker wrote:if these were about islam, they would be deleted. ur a jerk
well i think they very likely will be deleted.
Not saying i agree that they be deleted however, as they will likely promote some lively debate. They do rather play with the concept of offence.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:51 am
by 2dimes
If I made drawings like that and said they were you, having never actually seen you, would you be mad? I'm sure it makes people upset and angry just as much as it amuses others.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:53 am
by Neoteny
King Berzerker wrote:if these were about islam, they would be deleted. ur a jerk
This sentiment never fails to make me laugh.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:54 am
by karel
i think the both of them are very funny...i say keep them,who cares if it offends someone

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:02 am
by jiminski
2dimes wrote:If I made drawings like that and said they were you, having never actually seen you, would you be mad? I'm sure it makes people upset and angry just as much as it amuses others.
i truly would not be offended if it were me or you said it was my dad... or perhaps more pertinently as the image above represents a saying. if you drew a picture of a random man in coitus with an older woman and said it's 'jim and his mum' i.e. "Jiminski is a Mother Fucker!" I would not be offended either.

but what this draws in is the blasphemy thing and the perceived responsibility to feel annoyance at this.

The fact is, the one with Santa pooping on Christ could be perceived to mean that capitalism and more specifically what Christmas has become, goes against all which is at the core of the selflessness and opposition to material gain which has been debated to be the message of Christ.
there is also the tradition of 'the shitter' in Catalan Christianity (i'll look for the proper name Caganer) which adds relevance to it.

The last one is more seemingly offensive but actually it is merely a fairly cheap representation of a common saying.

As i say, i think Christianity is mature enough to take these things as they are and not as they think a medieval scholar may have thought they should take them.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:04 am
by Gillipig
jiminski wrote:i am not sure that it's incest as such .. perhaps more a mockery of the ultimate act of narcissism. (and really just the literal depiction of an expression)

anyway, less easy to defend on the grounds of ambiguity but i think Christianity can take it!
for me, being able to take mockery is the sign of strength and self-confidence. It is only religions without those which generally get in a stew about such attempts to rile them.
Well you're right in much of what you say but remember that religious people have something they call "holy"! Which is just another word for saying that they're uncomfortable with talking about a specific subject! Religion is about faith and faith is easily gained and lost, I build my reality based on proven facts not faith, so I can stand up for and explain my ways of seeing the world! When you depend on faith you're much more fragile because the arguments you use to convince yourself are useless in a logical discussion! That's why most christians doesn't like to talk about religion with someone who isn't religious, and they don't like when their "idols" are being humiliated! If someone would post a picture of a monkey taking a dump on Darwin I would find that hilarious! That's a big difference in religious and atheistic way of thinking, they need to make an effort to not "lose their faith" and keep believing in god, while I never seriously considered the possibility of that "maybe there is a god after all" !

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:09 am
by King Berzerker
so, if it was my mother instead of my god that ur mocking, i should take it because i have confidence in my mom? u who r mocking jesus or the god of anyones faith are the low caliber person that can spread such garbage. it is u that should be ashamed of what u do. blatant disrespect. foo on u

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:13 am
by jiminski
King Berzerker wrote:so, if it was my mother instead of my god that ur mocking, i should take it because i have confidence in my mom? u who r mocking jesus or the god of anyones faith are the low caliber person that can spread such garbage. it is u that should be ashamed of what u do. blatant disrespect. foo on u

no, i am saying that if someone who does not know you or your mum says it, that you should have the confidence and strength in yourself to realise that it is baseless and simply a trap for you to fall into.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:19 am
by King Berzerker
jiminski wrote:
King Berzerker wrote:so, if it was my mother instead of my god that ur mocking, i should take it because i have confidence in my mom? u who r mocking jesus or the god of anyones faith are the low caliber person that can spread such garbage. it is u that should be ashamed of what u do. blatant disrespect. foo on u

no, i am saying that if someone who does not know you or your mum says it, that you should have the confidence and strength in yourself to realise that it is baseless and simply a trap for you to fall into.
but a fat santa pooping on my mom makes me feel sad and it is stupid of gillipig to even post that to get a rise. why lay a trap when if only makes you hateful.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:22 am
by 2dimes
How does it make you sad when the drawing wouldn't even look like your mom?

Jim sees what I'm saying. Would people be upset if it was a picture of Jesus eating a pork chop. Pretty much the same thing. It never happened and it would be an infraction of the law. The difference being most don't understand that in the bigger scheme or things the implications of the pork chop are basically identical to those in your pictures Gillipig.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:29 am
by Gillipig
karel wrote:i think the both of them are very funny...i say keep them,who cares if it offends someone
Right on man, when something makes you laugh, then it's a good thing. And the santa picture gave me a good laugh :D !!!

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:31 am
by TheProwler
Gillipig wrote:I build my reality based on proven facts not faith, so I can stand up for and explain my ways of seeing the world! When you depend on faith you're much more fragile because the arguments you use to convince yourself are useless in a logical discussion!
I can see you are experiencing an internal struggle. You are conflicted.

"convince yourself"

You are projecting.

Re: Does these pictures make Christians mad?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:37 am
by Gillipig
King Berzerker wrote:
jiminski wrote:
King Berzerker wrote:so, if it was my mother instead of my god that ur mocking, i should take it because i have confidence in my mom? u who r mocking jesus or the god of anyones faith are the low caliber person that can spread such garbage. it is u that should be ashamed of what u do. blatant disrespect. foo on u

no, i am saying that if someone who does not know you or your mum says it, that you should have the confidence and strength in yourself to realise that it is baseless and simply a trap for you to fall into.
but a fat santa pooping on my mom makes me feel sad and it is stupid of gillipig to even post that to get a rise. why lay a trap when if only makes you hateful.
You need to get real :lol: !!! Those pictures are really funny and if you believe I posted them out of pure hatred, you're way of the mark, they made me laugh and I want to share pictures that makes me laugh :) , if people don't have the same sense of humor as I have then screw them!! My humor doesn't have to be politically correct!!