Conquer Club

AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry, raising the specter of a showdown with the Obama administration, suggested Thursday that he would consider invoking states’ rights protections under the 10th Amendment to resist the president’s healthcare plan, which he said would be "disastrous" for Texas.

Interviewed by conservative talk show host Mark Davis of Dallas’ WBAP/820 AM, Perry said his first hope is that Congress will defeat the plan, which both Perry and Davis described as "Obama Care." But should it pass, Perry predicted that Texas and a "number" of states might resist the federal health mandate.

"I think you’ll hear states and governors standing up and saying 'no’ to this type of encroachment on the states with their healthcare," Perry said. "So my hope is that we never have to have that stand-up. But I’m certainly willing and ready for the fight if this administration continues to try to force their very expansive government philosophy down our collective throats."

Perry, the state’s longest-serving governor, has made defiance of Washington a hallmark of his state administration as well as his emerging re-election campaign against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in the 2010 Republican primary. Earlier this year, Perry refused $555 million in federal unemployment stimulus money, saying it would subject Texas to long-term costs after the federal dollars ended.

Interviewed after returning from a trip to Iraq and Afghanistan, Perry spoke out against President Barack Obama’s healthcare package less than 24 hours after the president used a prime-time news conference Wednesday night to try to sell the massive legislative package to Congress and the public.

'Not the solution’

"It really is a state issue, and if there was ever an argument for the 10th Amendment and for letting the states find a solution to their problems, this may be at the top of the class," Perry said. "A government-run healthcare system is financially unstable. It’s not the solution."

Perry heartily backed an unsuccessful resolution in this year’s legislative session that would have affirmed the belief that Texas has sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

In expressing "unwavering support" for the 10th Amendment resolution by state Rep. Brandon Creighton, R-Conroe, Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."

Returning to the "letter and spirit" of the 10th Amendment, he said in April, "will free our state from undue regulations and ultimately strengthen our union."

Perry, in his on-air interview Thursday with Davis, did not specify how he might use the 10th Amendment in opposing the Obama health plan. His spokeswoman, Allison Castle, said that the governor’s first goal is to defeat the plan in Congress and that any discussion of options beyond that would be "hypothetical."

"I don’t think it’s surprising that the governor is taking a stand against it," said Anne Dunkelberg, associate director of the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based research organization that supports the House version of Obama’s plan. "Unfortunately, the national dialogue on health reform has been extraordinarily partisan and polarized."

The White House Media Affairs Office, asked to comment on Perry’s statements, did not have an immediate response. In his remarks to the nation Wednesday, Obama restated his midsummer deadline for passage of the bill in Congress, saying it is urgently needed to help families "that are being clobbered by healthcare costs."

High stakes in Texas

Texas has a higher percentage of uninsured people than any other state, with 1 in 4 Texans lacking health coverage. Dunkelberg, whose organization supports policies to help low- and modest-income Texans, said the House version would create a "predictable and comprehensive benefits package" for thousands of struggling middle-income Texans.

Former Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth of Burleson, a senior fellow for healthcare at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation, echoed Perry’s assertion that the Obama plan is the wrong approach and could have disastrous financial consequences for Texas.

Under the Senate version of the bill, she said, an expansion of the joint federal-state Medicaid program for the poor could cost Texas $4 billion a year.

"There are good solutions" to the country’s healthcare problems, Wohlgemuth said. "This isn’t it."

Perry said the plan is another example of the Obama administration’s "massive takeover of the private-sector economy."

"I hope our leaders will look for solutions that don’t dig our country further into debt," he said.

Perry called on Texans in the House and Senate to oppose the plan. "I can’t imagine that anyone from Texas who cares about this state would vote for Obama Care. I don’t care whether you’re Democrat or Republican," he said.

Of those Texans who might consider supporting the plan, he said: "This may sound a little bit harsh, but they might ought to consider representing some other state because they’re sure not representing Texas."

The Tenth Amendment wrote: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

GabonX wrote:

Interviewed by conservative talk show host Mark Davis of Dallas’ WBAP/820 AM, Perry said his first hope is that Congress will defeat the plan, which both Perry and Davis described as "Obama Care." But should it pass, Perry predicted that Texas and a "number" of states might resist the federal health mandate.

Hologram wrote:[...] someone in an actual position of decent power is actually doing something to try to get the Federal Government to at least try to follow the Constitution [...]

GabonX wrote: I for one think that it would be a political disaster for the President. He's kind of stuck in a catch 22 because if he fails to push his plan through Congress, he will have failed to deliver his most touted campaign promise, but if he does he will suffer a huge political blow, and possibly a permanent loss of authority for the office of the President.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

comic boy wrote:I think its a great idea and will set an excelent precedent, every state can veto measures they dont like, its a tremendous leap forward for democracy, will hugely strengthen the Union and make the USA even greater...............DOH !

oVo wrote:

Hologram wrote:[...] someone in an actual position of decent power is actually doing something to try to get the Federal Government to at least try to follow the Constitution [...]

You think the Federal Government is currently overstepping it's authority in attempting to achieve universal healthcare for all US citizens?

Woodruff wrote:The Tenth Amendment is a very important construct in our Constitution. Sadly, it's one that is tattered, like many other parts of our Constitution, but it is important.

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

jsholty4690 wrote:

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

I think they have a version of Obamacare. Try Switzerland the last true Democracy in the world. That's were I'm going after this country falls apart. I just need to learn some more lower German before I go.

jsholty4690 wrote:

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

I think they have a version of Obamacare. Try Switzerland the last true Democracy in the world. That's were I'm going after this country falls apart. I just need to learn some more lower German before I go.

Frigidus wrote:

jsholty4690 wrote:

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

I think they have a version of Obamacare. Try Switzerland the last true Democracy in the world. That's were I'm going after this country falls apart. I just need to learn some more lower German before I go.

comic boy wrote:

jsholty4690 wrote:

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

I think they have a version of Obamacare. Try Switzerland the last true Democracy in the world. That's were I'm going after this country falls apart. I just need to learn some more lower German before I go.

And you think that they would want,or accept you why ?

jsholty4690 wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

jsholty4690 wrote:

Cypress333 wrote:Obamacare sucks, and i never want to have to go through it...and if i do i just might as well move to new zealand or some country like that go perry!

I think they have a version of Obamacare. Try Switzerland the last true Democracy in the world. That's were I'm going after this country falls apart. I just need to learn some more lower German before I go.

Switzerland is the last true democracy. It is mainly a direct democracy, not a representative democracy (unlike the U.S.). They do vote for a legislature and a president, but they have little power. Plus it is a confederacy (97% of government action is done at the local level not the federal). And it has some of the highest voter turn out in the world.

Frigidus wrote:
I was less facepalming at the "Switzerland is a democracy" bit as at the "ZOMG Obamacare" bit. Universal health care is as anti-democratic as police and fire stations, road construction, and a military. Namely, whether or not you have it has zero to do with you are a democracy or not. Hell, the Swiss have one too.

Besides, the reason Switzerland is capable of remaining a (somewhat) true democracy is only because of it's small population. If the U.S. had remained a confederacy it would have likely devolved into infighting and an eventual separation into several (literal) states. That would have been a bad thing.