Conquer Club

On behalf of Mrs. Kennedy, her children, and the parents and sisters of Robert Kennedy, I want to express what we feel to those who mourn with us today in this Cathedral and around the world. We loved him as a brother and as a father and as a son. From his parents, and from his older brothers and sisters -- Joe and Kathleen, and Jack -- he received an inspiration which he passed on to all of us. He gave us strength in time of trouble, wisdom in time of uncertainty, and sharing in time of happiness. He will always be by our side.

Love is not an easy feeling to put into words. Nor is loyalty, or trust or joy. But he was all of these. He loved life completely and he lived it intensely....

...My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will someday come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not.

GabonX wrote:He should have been imprisoned for manslaughter decades ago. He is a politician of the lowest order in terms of both policy and partisanship and his selfish recklessness directly cost another human being her life. He was in no way whatsoever a decent civil servant or human being.

Honestly this is good news in more ways than one as the Democrats now lose their filibuster proof majority.

No I don't feel that I have to say nice things about this murdering hack just because he died.

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SultanOfSurreal wrote: wow i am so angry grrrragghghh

istanbul39 wrote:Well, now we will learn who are the human beings on this site and who are not...

GabonX wrote:He should have been imprisoned for manslaughter decades ago. He is a politician of the lowest order in terms of both policy and partisanship and his selfish recklessness directly cost another human being her life. He was in no way whatsoever a decent civil servant or human being.

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No I don't feel that I have to say nice things about this murdering hack just because he died.

GabonX wrote:have no sympathy for murderers, particularly rich upper class murderers who get away with their crimes because they are in a position of privilege.*

*unless they are george w. bush

GabonX wrote:I hadn't realized that George W had ever killed anyone

MrWainthrope wrote:Sultan > Gabon


Thread now officially over.

Why was Ted Kennedy never brought up on murder charges for the death of Mary Jo Kopechne?



Answer:
Unfortunately, money and power usually have a louder voice than justice. Ted Kennedy is from one of the wealthest and most feared families in America and the authorities did not want to go against the Kennedy family and charge Ted with a crime. Several Kennedys have used their money and influence to do good things while others abuse the law because they can get away with it. Back when the accident happened, there were not the stronger laws we have today against drunk driving but even today a person with the means to hire top attorneys recieves different treatment than say the average citizen. Millions of Americans dislike Ted Kennedy today because he never took responsibily for Mary Jo's death, by lying and hiding behind his family's name, making him a coward. The American judicial is the best in the world but it has it's flaws and this chapter in history is only one example.

thegreekdog wrote:He murdered someone

That being said, when George W. Bush passes away, I'm fairly sure Sultan's quote will be "Good riddance," so let's try to practice a little less hypocrisy.

SultanOfSurreal wrote:i don't see any hypocrisy. george w. bush's policies directly led to the deaths of countless thousands, including women and children. he also eroded civil liberties in enormous, possibly irreversible ways. and while i will inwardly smile when he dies, i won't gloat -- what use is there gloating over something like death, a cosmic happenstance that waits for us all? but i will not honor his memory, because his memory will not deserve honor. his death will be merely another opportunity to point out what a cancer his life was, upon america and the world

SultanOfSurreal wrote:if your first thought upon his death was chappaquiddick you are missing the point in a big way

thegreekdog wrote:Did Ted Kennedy vote against the war? I believe he voted for the war.