Judgement Day- Game Over, MAFIA WIN!!!

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:29 am

Fine, if you're going to be that way.

Like I said earlier, I'm Noah. My role at the start of the game wrote that I was busy at night building my Ark, and therefor could not perform any other actions. On the night of the Armageddon, I got a message that my Ark was finished. I could protect myself that night if I chose to hide in my Ark instead of attacking anyone. The message also revealed that my role was now unlocked and I had gained a new power. After the Armageddon, I could protect 2 players from being killed each night. I can even protect myself. However, I cannot protect anyone that I protected the night before. I can choose not to protect anyone, but I can't protect just 1 person. I reckon it has something to do with the Ark carrying animal-couples in the biblical story.

If you're having trouble believing me, please look back at page 56. I didn't understand how the Armageddon battles worked exactly, so I asked jnd. His response practically gave away my power to protect myself during the Armageddon, but thankfully I don't think anyone picked up on it at that point. At least I hope some scummies tried to target me and wasted a kill.

Here's the quote:

jnd94 wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:Eh? Few questions.

- Does the person with the lower rating die?
- What happens in case of a draw?
- What happens if multiple people choose to battle the same person?
You need not worry.

I'm not the red horse or nostradamus cult or whatever crazy theory mandy comes up with next. I'm just your average friendly neighbourhood pro-town superdoctor.

By the way, revealing who I protected last night would also reveal who I can't protect next night, so don't even ask.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:20 am

This is an imaginative and convincing claim.

Unfortunatly, I stoped buying imaginative and convincing claims ofter Talapus pwned me in Poet Mafia.

Simple math people: We lynch Sierra, Ga7 and Koesen (swich the last two if Sierra is indeed the Red Horse) and we win.

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:20 am

Eh? I wasn't around at the time of Poet Mafia, so I don't see what that has to do with me. You and Talapus can take your feud outside.

My math tells me ga7 is the best lynch for today. Koesen would be my second choice.

Meanwhile to get some actual discussion going, I'd like to ask Mandy and Nag exactly how sure they are of F1fth, Kwanton and Syzygy being good guys. I'm not asking what their role is or how you would know, but it would be nice if you could say something like "I'm 70% sure he's town" or "There's NO WAY he can be scum". Please take into account that there may have also been town roles that got unlocked as mafia after the Armageddon. It would help to look at this now in case both ga7 and Koesen turn out to be speaking the truth.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:26 am

Ponies dropped from the sky, and chess boards flew in the air, a flash flood started:

I haven't really been looking at the game since I left, I must say. I apologise for that.

As for 'advice' (like God ever gave advice), all I can say is to not lynch the Messiah. I have used the word Messiah in my posts before if you look back, and now that he has claimed his role and name-stake, please for the good of God and humanity, do not lynch him.

It would of been good to have more information on this game, but Jnd hasn't given it to me, only who the Messiah is. I repeat - Messiah, Messiah, Messiah. Keep him alive.

From your horrible, sadistic God - Skittles!

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:49 pm

Sierra_Leon wrote:Eh? I wasn't around at the time of Poet Mafia, so I don't see what that has to do with me. You and Talapus can take your feud outside.
My math tells me ga7 is the best lynch for today. Koesen would be my second choice.

Meanwhile to get some actual discussion going, I'd like to ask Mandy and Nag exactly how sure they are of F1fth, Kwanton and Syzygy being good guys. I'm not asking what their role is or how you would know, but it would be nice if you could say something like "I'm 70% sure he's town" or "There's NO WAY he can be scum". Please take into account that there may have also been town roles that got unlocked as mafia after the Armageddon. It would help to look at this now in case both ga7 and Koesen turn out to be speaking the truth.

Ok then, I am 100% sure that Kwanton, F1fth and Syzygy are pro-town.

I am about 80% sure about Nagerus.

As for the Poet's Mafia, it was this great game where we had to write poems. Talapus won through fooling me with an imaginative name-claim (and through Kwanton's lazyness

). You claim reminds me of his.

But, since Skittles is trying to save Mesiah and since Noah isn't Mesiah, let us lynch!

(I don't actualy believe Skittles, I am just being polite)

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:56 pm

Koesen's comment have confused me slightly because he thinks that someone has changed factions, which concerns me. I cannot guarantee anyones pro-towness, except I will say that when I investigated selin and got told he was the horse I was looking for I was given a certain reward, hence my knowledge of game events was increased. Also, Mandy you played Braveheart so you should know not everything is as it always seems in terms of who is in the know etc.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:12 pm

I can vouch for Nagerous. He's pro-town.

And since there has been no counterclaim against ga7 (and the fact that there must be a messiah in a game about the Armageddon) I choose to believe him.

Vote Sierra

P.S. If you are scum -- very imaginative claim.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:47 pm

I recall Nag was also mason with Spin so that settles it. I dunno what Skittles is trying to say but anyhow if you lynch me nothing happens so... (maybe a lyncher wins at worst? not sure.) In any case lynching Sierra then Koesie should be the end.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:38 pm

nagerous wrote:Koesen's comment have confused me slightly because he thinks that someone has changed factions, which concerns me. I cannot guarantee anyones pro-towness, except I will say that when I investigated selin and got told he was the horse I was looking for I was given a certain reward, hence my knowledge of game events was increased. Also, Mandy you played Braveheart so you should know not everything is as it always seems in terms of who is in the know etc.

Alas, I know. But, I don't think that the Hunting-teams have been infiltrated. Also, I think that we all agreed that my role in Braveheart was WAAAY over-powered.

Ok then, I am 100% sure about Kwan and 99.9% sure about F1fth and Syzygy.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:35 pm

I wasn't talking about infiltration, I was talking about somebody changing sides without anybody knowing about it.

I don't buy ga7's story for a number of reasons:

1. A role that can't be killed at all, makes the game impossible. Everybody has to have some kind of weakness, or else you can't possibly lose, making the game moot from the beginning. I don't believe that at all. Unbalance is one thing. Deciding the game right when you design the roles is something else altogether.

2. It makes no sense thematically. Wasn't the whole point of the Messiah that he die for the sins of mankind?

3. Skittles says don't lynch the Messiah, it's bad. Ga7 says: lynch me all you want, nothing will happen. There's a big contradiction there that reeks of scum. If you were the true Messiah, would it be wise to counterclaim? You'd be the number one target. If there's more than one scum member left, it would be disaster. And I have reliable information that there is more than one scum person left, though probably not in the same group.

Furthermore, and this is unrelated to ga7, people vouching for each other means nothing at this stage. I'm telling you someone has changed sides after Armageddon, so any and all information you were given before that is now outdated. Sure, most of the vouched for people have to still be town. But one of them is not.

Vote ga7

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:37 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Koesen's comment have confused me slightly because he thinks that someone has changed factions, which concerns me. I cannot guarantee anyones pro-towness, except I will say that when I investigated selin and got told he was the horse I was looking for I was given a certain reward, hence my knowledge of game events was increased. Also, Mandy you played Braveheart so you should know not everything is as it always seems in terms of who is in the know etc.
Alas, I know. But, I don't think that the Hunting-teams have been infiltrated. Also, I think that we all agreed that my role in Braveheart was WAAAY over-powered.

Ok then, I am 100% sure about Kwan and 99.9% sure about F1fth and Syzygy.

LIES! ALL LIES!

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:39 pm

Koesen wrote:Interesting. The person who turned has the mission to crucify the Messiah. He's a new member of one of the factions (my pm uses a plural there (not a literal quote), though as far as I can tell there's little evidence for more than one faction, which would be the horsemen). The other people in that faction don't know him, though, and he doesn't know them.

Koesen there is a massive contradiction here, you say this then you vote the person who claimed messiah. I think you are bullshitting us and saying someone has turned to mess with our heads.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:41 pm

Think about it: either Skittles is the true god, and then he's contradicting ga7. Or he's not, and that means they're trying to give ga7 the perfect claim.

And invulnerability is a perfect claim, cause it garantuees nobody, including the other scum, will waste his time trying to come after you.

If you all believe there is such a thing as a 100% unkillable role, you're... well, words fail me.

And if it's true, we can all lean back and sail on ga7's Divine shoulders to victory. But of course it 's a load of bull

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:42 pm

nagerous wrote:
Koesen wrote:Interesting. The person who turned has the mission to crucify the Messiah. He's a new member of one of the factions (my pm uses a plural there (not a literal quote), though as far as I can tell there's little evidence for more than one faction, which would be the horsemen). The other people in that faction don't know him, though, and he doesn't know them.

Koesen there is a massive contradiction here, you say this then you vote the person who claimed messiah. I think you are bullshitting us and saying someone has turned to mess with our heads.

I vote ga7 because I think his Messiah claim is a big fat lie. There is no such thing as an unkillable role in this game or any other.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:15 pm

Koesie, you just want us to waste a lynch. I just hope that if you're really cult you didn't step up to be a recruiter or something, cause then it's gonna be a royal pain in the ass (and I'm gonna hate Jnd forever). Skittles says a load of BS because he presumably god-investigated me and got Messiah as result, not the details of my role. I didn't have contact with either god all game btw, thought my role would make me pretty fit for that but no - hence why I'm not trusting any of them.
About invulnerability, my guess is I could have died during armageddon if several people ganged up on me or something, but I think my battle rating was pretty high so not likely to happen. It's not that overpowered anyhow - think PGO in Fir's games. As long as we have night kills, I still think my lynch just to prove it would be a waste, but I guess I'd consent it on the condition both Sierra and you are gone (and if there's more than 3 people left obviously).

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:53 pm

jnd94 wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Koesen's comment have confused me slightly because he thinks that someone has changed factions, which concerns me. I cannot guarantee anyones pro-towness, except I will say that when I investigated selin and got told he was the horse I was looking for I was given a certain reward, hence my knowledge of game events was increased. Also, Mandy you played Braveheart so you should know not everything is as it always seems in terms of who is in the know etc.
Alas, I know. But, I don't think that the Hunting-teams have been infiltrated. Also, I think that we all agreed that my role in Braveheart was WAAAY over-powered.

Ok then, I am 100% sure about Kwan and 99.9% sure about F1fth and Syzygy.
LIES! ALL LIES!

You shouldn't have allowed me to comunicate with the Mobsters. There was a moment when I had a feeling that Exile is suspecting me, but all I had to do was tell Freezie to kill him.

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:42 pm

jnd94 wrote:Ponies dropped from the sky, and chess boards flew in the air, a flash flood started:

I haven't really been looking at the game since I left, I must say. I apologise for that.

As for 'advice' (like God ever gave advice), all I can say is to not lynch the Messiah. I have used the word Messiah in my posts before if you look back, and now that he has claimed his role and name-stake, please for the good of God and humanity, do not lynch him.

It would of been good to have more information on this game, but Jnd hasn't given it to me, only who the Messiah is. I repeat - Messiah, Messiah, Messiah. Keep him alive.

From your horrible, sadistic God - Skittles!

I know I said all god posts are better off ignored, but this post got me believing ga7 might be telling the truth afterall. With mandy's confirmation on F1fth, Kwanton, and Syzygy, the only possible scum remaining is Koesen. He was already cleared of being the red horse though. I can think of only one explanation: Satan might have messed up mandy's investigation. We haven't seen much of the gods so far and I've been wondering how they spent their god points (assuming this works like Athalka mafia). Only one way to find out.

Vote Koesen.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:12 am

Dear people,

My life has fallen apart last night and I won't be able to continue this game. I may or may not be back in the future. I came very close to killing myself last night and though the worst has passed now, I may still do it.

Don't panic about that. There are lots of people trying to help me now.

For a while you guys provided me with a welcome source of distraction, and though I don't really know any of you, I've come to like (the internet persona) of some of you. Thank you for that and all the best for the future.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:13 am

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:01 am

Sorry to hear that Koesen. Hope to see you again, preferably the sooner the better.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:07 am

Damn... Take care of yourself Koesie, hope it gets better for you =/

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:21 pm

Get better and get back soon Koesen.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:08 pm

Dang, good luck Koesen, we will miss you if you don't come back.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:42 pm

Thanks for the kind words, guys. No promises for the long term, but I'm still here for now.

Don't let me wreck a good game though. Get back to your battle

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:15 pm

Alright, good. Hope you get better. I didn't want to appear insensitive and ask straight away what we will do with the game if you were gone. Well, get on with the game, guys!!! I want death!!!