[Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

SiLEnTXDEsEcRaTe · Post by **SiLEnTXDEsEcRaTe** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:16 pm

wow...looks like a really fun map to play on

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:03 pm

Coleman wrote:But then we'd have more double names.

We can't have that.

I am in full agreement with you myself. The major complaints and whining about the original map were nearly all geographical and I think that needs to be #1 to everything else.

Not everyone is taking that view, which is why I think we need a poll. But gimil is gone for another 6 days and I don't want to start one without his consent as he may have a reasonable argument against it.

Claiming the chat folks rig polls is not reasonable, so lets not start that again.

i also agree lets get the geography right this time

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:54 pm

Luckily guys I managed to get a little online time,

The names are the biggest priority to get right,

teh reason i wish not to have a poll is becasue it will resolove nothing. I personally agree that double names are not ideal BUT there is no alternative. Having a poll asking if it should be a double name will not give me an alternative name.

As for the chat regulars comment, to many people have looked to far into it. If you have a problem PM me.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:00 pm

Coleman wrote:
Enigma wrote:this was my favorite map as is
Noted, again, the original author of the map requested this revamp and personally choose gimil.

*nods*
well, i dont care if the names or w/e are changed around. i just really liked the graphics- they were simple, but eye pleasing. i really liked the bright/bold colours.
gimils graphics are very nice. its just that the original graphics are the only ones like them in the whole slew of maps.

edit: the new graphics are too similar to ireland.

Post by **iancanton** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:39 pm

iancanton wrote:the isle of mull has somehow managed to stick to the south-west corner of strathclyde, as has anglesey to the north-west corner of gwynedd.

mull and anglesey still need to be unstuck from great britain.

ian.

lanyards · Post by **lanyards** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:45 pm

For all those who don't like the double names, how about these?

Dumfries & Galloway
Why not make it just be called "Dumfries". That would clear up the fuss about it being too long.

Lothian & Borders
This could just be called "Lothian" Nobody would mix up "Borders" with this territory and it would clear double names.

--lanyards

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 pm

lanyards wrote:For all those who don't like the double names, how about these?

Dumfries & Galloway
Why not make it just be called "Dumfries". That would clear up the fuss about it being too long.

Lothian & Borders
This could just be called "Lothian" Nobody would mix up "Borders" with this territory and it would clear double names.

--lanyards

read the thread lanyard, these are the names on those areas in scotland, there is no abb. shortcuts or nicknames for the area.

lanyards · Post by **lanyards** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:57 pm

gimil wrote:
lanyards wrote:For all those who don't like the double names, how about these?

Dumfries & Galloway
Why not make it just be called "Dumfries". That would clear up the fuss about it being too long.

Lothian & Borders
This could just be called "Lothian" Nobody would mix up "Borders" with this territory and it would clear double names.

--lanyards

read the thread lanyard, these are the names on those areas in scotland, there is no abb. shortcuts or nicknames for the area.

Ok, so then if there is no way around it, lets not discuss double names any farther. It would only be wasting time and slow the progress of the map, correct?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:59 pm

lanyards wrote:
gimil wrote:
lanyards wrote:For all those who don't like the double names, how about these?

Dumfries & Galloway
Why not make it just be called "Dumfries". That would clear up the fuss about it being too long.

Lothian & Borders
This could just be called "Lothian" Nobody would mix up "Borders" with this territory and it would clear double names.

--lanyards

read the thread lanyard, these are the names on those areas in scotland, there is no abb. shortcuts or nicknames for the area.

Ok, so then if there is no way around it, lets not discuss double names any farther. It would only be wasting time and slow the progress of the map, correct?

weve already reached that conclusion

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:05 pm

The title just seems too... Bright, stands out a bit too much, for my liking.

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:19 pm

strangford lough still looks like a lake - please fix

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:24 pm

Rebelman i havent updated since the last time you whined, and you know ive been away for a week.

Your concerns have already been fixed and once i get around to finishing the next update youll see that

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:00 pm

from page 17 wrote:... I was just wondering whether it might be worth swapping some of the bonus area colours around a little to reflect the original?

The more I think about it, the more I think that you should try swapping the colours to keep them vaguely similar to the original.

Ireland is green already, so that's fine, but North England should be pinkish, Wales should be yellowish etc...

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Oh, and you need to change 2007 underneath the mini-map to 2008 :wink:

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:20 pm

The colors are done as best they can to match there flag colors (except england) I personally would like to keep scotland blue and wales red

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:23 pm

gimil wrote:The colors are done as best they can to match there flag colors (except england) I personally would like to keep scotland blue and wales red

Ah I wondered where the colours were from...

I can see your point and I can see Mr Benns...

I say we go with whatever Gimil reckons.

C.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:26 pm

Well if everyone really want the old colors ill do it, but brown doesnt really feel like scotland does it

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:31 pm

The Scotland in the original map looks more like Ginger than brown. You could always try and make it tartan?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:25 am

MrBenn wrote:The Scotland in the original map looks more like Ginger than brown. You could always try and make it tartan?

no tartan, that would be to strong a texture for the map.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:32 am

You may need to change your continents...

Anything that was written <component> is now <territory>

Note you can also use <continent> in your components if your logic needs it!!

C.

lanyards · Post by **lanyards** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:18 am

yeti_c wrote:You may need to change your continents...

Anything that was written <component> is now <territory>

Note you can also use <continent> in your components if your logic needs it!!

C.

Fixed XML:
http://h1.ripway.com/lanyards/TheBritishIslesXML.xml

Post by **iancanton** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:41 pm

gimil

we're struggling a bit for space. do u think the map will still look reasonable if we rotate it clockwise by 20 degrees or so, so that the southern coastline of great britain is almost horizontal?

this will release some space at the bottom left, which we can use for a key to territories with abbreviated names, such as gloucs and oxon. these latter two names do not roll off the tongue, as no-one ever says them like that when speaking. calling them Gl and Ox on the map itself, with a key on the bottom left giving their full names, is more natural. the proposed key can also include additional abbreviations for small territories, such as london, or those with long names, like dumfries and galloway.

ian.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:25 pm

iancanton wrote:gimil

we're struggling a bit for space. do u think the map will still look reasonable if we rotate it clockwise by 20 degrees or so, so that the southern coastline of great britain is almost horizontal?

this will release some space at the bottom left, which we can use for a key to territories with abbreviated names, such as gloucs and oxon. these latter two names do not roll off the tongue, as no-one ever says them like that when speaking. calling them Gl and Ox on the map itself, with a key on the bottom left giving their full names, is more natural. the proposed key can also include additional abbreviations for small territories, such as london, or those with long names, like dumfries and galloway.

ian.

there is absolutely no way im rotating the map for the sake of a key. There is more than enought space in the bottom left to put one in

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:21 pm

I agree that the colors should be the same as the old map; it would be a nice compromise for those that prefer the old one.

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:48 am

InkL0sed wrote:I agree that the colors should be the same as the old map; it would be a nice compromise for those that prefer the old one.

actually this is a bad idea to do it for that reason. the whole point is that the old map had problems with names and borders. So, this new version embraced doing things closer to real life. Having the colours resemble the flags fits in quite well with this theme.