[Abandoned] - New York State

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:15 pm

Looks great - post a new thread though. But you forgot to show New Jersey, the suburb of NY !!

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:11 pm

NUMBER 15? (so many small things i dont even know which ones count!):

I was meaning to do this...just couldnt think of anything for the mts....they were disgusting!

added:
new mts (i hope these are better!)
trees instead of river
updated impassable key

to do:
you tell me

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:08 pm

wow, i think its ready for foundy

the only thing i can see is the legand is somewhat hard to read.

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:49 pm

well I still have lots of problems with this map. though it has come a long way.

I don't get why you only have one mountain area on the map. According to this it looks like you should have two more. Also, I still don't like the mountains you have. They look quite gaudy. They're just too big.

I don't like how the rivers are just like the other borders except blue. Also I'd like bridges instead of the river just stopping in those places where you've put the gaps.

I'd get rid of those trees and put mountains in the spots shown on the map. Use those and rivers for impassables.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:18 am

edbeard wrote:well I still have lots of problems with this map. though it has come a long way.

I don't get why you only have one mountain area on the map. According to this it looks like you should have two more. Also, I still don't like the mountains you have. They look quite gaudy. They're just too big.

I don't like how the rivers are just like the other borders except blue. Also I'd like bridges instead of the river just stopping in those places where you've put the gaps.

I'd get rid of those trees and put mountains in the spots shown on the map. Use those and rivers for impassables.

I completely agree with everything edbeard said. Your map still seems thrown together.

If you are going to use rivers and mountains, make them accurate. There is no way the rivers twist and turn like that.

The border layout of the territories seems made up as well. I understand they are the counties but some of them are missing and why have you grouped them the way you have?

Plus your outer glow on the text makes some of them blurry and harder to read.

Here are some more maps that might help.

Basically if you want to use mountains and rivers as impassibles, and you want this map to be a real representation of New York State, use the actual size and locations of the mountains and rivers.

Here is what I would do (and have done on all of my maps)

1) Look over maps and map and maps!!! (see above)
2) Figure out how many territories you want on the map
3) Group together smaller counties
4) Figure out how many bonus groups you want
5) Develop you borders and attack layout
6) Post rough draft on gameplay to make sure you are headed in the right direction before spending 20 hours tweaking graphics. Once gameplay is worked out.......
7) Tinker with the style of the map. (this will lead the way to the methods of drawing and layout of various elements (trees, rivers, etc)
8) Repost, edit, repost edit......

Good luck

WM

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:41 pm

Illl do some of these things.

The reason why the places are grouped are because there were many small, useless territories. The were unimportant gameplay-wise and left no room for names and army #'s. I also wanted a smaller, even number of territories.

and do you really think i should change the mts again? i really like them now...well, ill wait for more comments..

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm

Is this any better?

N16?

Keredrex · Post by **Keredrex** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:24 am

Sorry But This doesn't seem to work .... It is too Dark... The font for the legend is bad... The territ names are hard too read.... It just does not feel like a NEW YORK MAP the mountains are wrong and the borders are too thick.... Sorry too sound harsh but I think this could be MUCH better... In fact I will give it a shot myself

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:21 pm

which names are hard to read? The borders arent too thick, they look nice and everything fits fine. Ill work on some of the other things you said, and gl with your map. I look forward to it

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:40 pm

maybe thinnen the mountains and make the bridges more clear

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:37 am

what do you mean by thinnen the mts?

and i will make the openings more clear for the rivers

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:38 am

well they are very wide

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:36 pm

N17?

you can take the poll down now.

changes:
thinner mts on the Allegany/Cattaraugus border.
moved "Oswego" for readability
Red-did the key- i think it looks much better now.

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:43 am

anything at all?

Keredrex · Post by **Keredrex** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:36 pm

Still think the fonts are bad ... and th mountains look out of place with the rest of the map.... not to mention geographically inacurate

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:15 am

I'm still not liking this layout...

Have you given thought to removing the massive mountain cluster, putting those spaces back, being creative with impassibles up there and making Adirondacks two continents after it is all said and done.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:17 am

Is there any need for the mountain range to take up 20% of your real estate?

C.

laxguy · Post by **laxguy** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:16 pm

yeti_c wrote:Is there any need for the mountain range to take up 20% of your real estate?

C.

i was thinking the mountains could be made a little smaller, and they probably shouldn't really go all the way down to saratoga..considering i live there and there aren't many mountains right here.. just a minor suggestion. other then that great map, would love to play it

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:29 pm

N18?

Hows that?

benny profane · Post by **benny profane** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:35 pm

i totally support this map, but i think that what is really holding it back is the fact that most of the work that you've done (colors, borders, rivers, mountains) is in stark contrast with the strong realism of the image that you've used for the background. i prefer the realism.
sorry i can't be more helpful, but i don't know how you would reconcile this.

also, most of new york state is pretty dreary.
maybe you could reflect that. (kidding!)

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:21 pm

is it at least adv. idea?

laxguy · Post by **laxguy** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:26 pm

that is much better Kapolwitz, i wouldn't change anything else, i think its a great idea!

tenio · Post by **tenio** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:37 pm

you should at least add a NYC territory

why is seaway only 1 bonus?

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:53 pm

laxguy wrote:that is much better Kapolwitz, i wouldn't change anything else, i think its a great idea!

tenio wrote:you should at least add a NYC territory

why is seaway only 1 bonus?

Maybe ill add NYC....it wouldnt really do much game play-wise.

Seaway is only a bonus of 1 b/c it only has 3 territories.

Sir. Ricco · Post by **Sir. Ricco** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:31 pm

It's a little dark, color wise, don't you think?

[Abandoned] - New York State

Is this a good idea? (dont judge graphics or current continents....only by the idea of New York)