Age of Realms: Mayhem [Quenched]

demon7896 · Post by **demon7896** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:30 pm

ah. sorry. is U'rl a dock, but at the same time, not a village?

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:37 am

why would anyone want to take the sanctuary and its terrs surely these need more of a carrot to make them tempting

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will the starting neutrals counteract any potential imbalance between terrs

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your lightning animation may be harmful to those prone to epileptic seizures

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it would be a nice touch but probably impossible to programme if your attacking/defending ability varied depending on what type of creature you are

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i very much approve of the various changes made to this map since v1

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:57 am

demon7896 wrote:ah. sorry. is U'rl a dock, but at the same time, not a village?

yes it has been like that in the other chapters.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:15 am

rebelman wrote:why would anyone want to take the sanctuary and its terrs surely these need more of a carrot to make them tempting

the sanctuary can be awesome in the right hands. it has the easiest to take bonus directly from round 1 because the sanctuary can attack all blood waters. so deploy in sanct and attack them. also it is the easiest to defend even though it doesn't seem so. the sanctuary island will be a fortress with some big neutrals on the land. so basically the guy starting with the sanctuary just has to pile a big army on the sanctuary and from there it can attack all terits in his continent and take them back in case he's attacked. because the blood waters have a big decay (10 armies/turn) and because the ports can attack them only one way, basically each potential attacker falls into a trap. if he attacks a blood water and leaves huge troops there he will lose them to the decay and if he wants to go for the sanctuary he'll have to deal with a larger than average defence since all people have to defend in 2-4 points and the sanctuary has to defend in 1 point. so let's say that if the average number of troops each player has is 500 then it's safe to assume the sanctuary guy will have his 500 armies put on the sanctuary. or split between the sanctuary and url (so he can attack other docks from url)

rebelman wrote:will the starting neutrals counteract any potential imbalance between terrs

of course

rebelman wrote:your lightning animation may be harmful to those prone to epileptic seizures

animation was just for fun. it won't stay

rebelman wrote:it would be a nice touch but probably impossible to programme if your attacking/defending ability varied depending on what type of creature you are

yeah it would be but impossible.

rebelman wrote:i very much approve of the various changes made to this map since v1

glad you do

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:25 pm

For the part with the lava, could you darken the land and make the lava glow a bit? Cause real lava is all bright and glowy. This just looks.... not bright and glowy....

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:11 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:For the part with the lava, could you darken the land and make the lava glow a bit? Cause real lava is all bright and glowy. This just looks.... not bright and glowy....

i guess i can.

CoolC · Post by **CoolC** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:12 pm

If you fade out the violet color around the The Sanctuary island instead of sharply ending it, it would look a lot better.

Also, the names of countries in the lava continent and in the north-east are a bit hard to read, maybe make them contrast better to the background or sharpen them up?

Overall, a nice new addition the "Age" series of maps

But.. even though it being a test and all... please remove the horrible lightning, now. It makes my eyes bleed and that is uncomfortable.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:43 pm

CoolC wrote:If you fade out the violet color around the The Sanctuary island instead of sharply ending it, it would look a lot better.

Also, the names of countries in the lava continent and in the north-east are a bit hard to read, maybe make them contrast better to the background or sharpen them up?

Overall, a nice new addition the "Age" series of maps

But.. even though it being a test and all... please remove the horrible lightning, now. It makes my eyes bleed and that is uncomfortable.

the blood water is faded and made more wavy. just compare the first version with v5 (not the animated one)

i will try and improve the readability of those names. and the lighning will be gone once i make a new update

how about if instead of lightning i make some blood dripping on the legend :lol:

anyway thanks for the feedback. i'll solve the issues you brought up in the next update.

fireedud · Post by **fireedud** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:07 pm

awww..... I like the lightning

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:40 pm

fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:49 pm

DiM wrote:
fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

DiM needs al LEAST an 8bit color image to get something decent from such a mulitcolored image

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:49 pm

i know this is supposed to be the end of the trilogy but i have grown fond of it and i'd like to do more maps based on this universe.

i'm thinking something new. i don't know exactly what the ideas are many. i want to make like several other side quests and stories within the main story.

like let's say a map of the sanctuary placed in the chapter 2 timeline, right when people fought to destroy the sanctuary and it's ice spell. it would be like an explanation for the things that triggered the events in chapter 3.

or a battle for mua castle in chapter 1. only this time the map is zoomed on the whole mua island and we have legions and troops in formations and we have various commanders and stuff.

or how about a story on how Troch the orc leader in chapter 3 came to power and how he battled other orc chieftains to get control of the orcs and unite them under one banner.

i'm also thinking to go beyond the portal to the realms from where all the creatures in chapter 3 came from. i'm thinking of a world on the brink of destruction who's only chance is opening this portal and getting out. with an objective like holding various spots (triggers) to open the portal. and it would include a mixture of decaying terits as well as killer neutrals to simulate the destruction of the world. or the neutral zombies if this feature is introduced by that time.

what does everybody think?

demon7896 · Post by **demon7896** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:07 pm

no more is it a trilogy--- the age of realms saga

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:09 pm

gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

DiM needs al LEAST an 8bit color image to get something decent from such a mulitcolored image

even with a monochromatic image having just 256 colours is crap. try converting AoM to 256 colours, you'll see a huge decrease in quality. or try the midle east map. same thing, the quality will plummet.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:10 pm

demon7896 wrote:no more is it a trilogy--- the age of realms saga

the trilogy will remain a trilogy. the other maps will be part of the Age of Realms quests.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:12 pm

DiM wrote:i know this is supposed to be the end of the trilogy but i have grown fond of it and i'd like to do more maps based on this universe.

i'm thinking something new. i don't know exactly what the ideas are many. i want to make like several other side quests and stories within the main story.

like let's say a map of the sanctuary placed in the chapter 2 timeline, right when people fought to destroy the sanctuary and it's ice spell. it would be like an explanation for the things that triggered the events in chapter 3.

or a battle for mua castle in chapter 1. only this time the map is zoomed on the whole mua island and we have legions and troops in formations and we have various commanders and stuff.

or how about a story on how Troch the orc leader in chapter 3 came to power and how he battled other orc chieftains to get control of the orcs and unite them under one banner.

i'm also thinking to go beyond the portal to the realms from where all the creatures in chapter 3 came from. i'm thinking of a world on the brink of destruction who's only chance is opening this portal and getting out. with an objective like holding various spots (triggers) to open the portal. and it would include a mixture of decaying terits as well as killer neutrals to simulate the destruction of the world. or the neutral zombies if this feature is introduced by that time.

what does everybody think?

I'm all for it if you do it well.

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:14 pm

DiM wrote:
gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

DiM needs al LEAST an 8bit color image to get something decent from such a mulitcolored image

even with a monochromatic image having just 256 colours is crap. try converting AoM to 256 colours, you'll see a huge decrease in quality. or try the midle east map. same thing, the quality will plummet.

Ya, the only reason that it worked with Conquerman is because you could probably get the same look with like, 64 colours...

In terms of the spinoffs, I think that that idea would be SO awesome

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:22 pm

it seems you guys like the idea of side stories and quests. if you have any suggestions of a side story please feel free to post them here or pm them to me.

TheShiningSun · Post by **TheShiningSun** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:00 pm

Perhaps a side story prequel that takes place eons before the Age of Might.

This prequel would explain when and why the sanctuary was constructed and how it came to have it's mythical powers. The map perhaps would be a zoomup of santuary island?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:03 pm

TheShiningSun wrote:Perhaps a side story prequel that takes place eons before the Age of Might.

This prequel would explain when and why the sanctuary was constructed and how it came to have it's mythical powers. The map perhaps would be a zoomup of santuary island?

interesting. i like this. with places for stone gatherers, stone cutters, transportation, masons, also some wizards, some mana pools, places of conjuration and sacrifice. i like this.

demon7896 · Post by **demon7896** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:04 pm

for sanctuary, either it is a stonehengy thing worshipping the sun or something, or it worships a god, or it is fueled by a magic power created by...
this is my post 666

pissedoffsol · Post by **pissedoffsol** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:14 am

can't wait to play this map.

I like the prequel idea. "Age of realms: the beginning" or something

sanosuke · Post by **sanosuke** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:37 am

InkL0sed wrote:
DiM wrote:i know this is supposed to be the end of the trilogy but i have grown fond of it and i'd like to do more maps based on this universe.

i'm thinking something new. i don't know exactly what the ideas are many. i want to make like several other side quests and stories within the main story.

like let's say a map of the sanctuary placed in the chapter 2 timeline, right when people fought to destroy the sanctuary and it's ice spell. it would be like an explanation for the things that triggered the events in chapter 3.

or a battle for mua castle in chapter 1. only this time the map is zoomed on the whole mua island and we have legions and troops in formations and we have various commanders and stuff.

or how about a story on how Troch the orc leader in chapter 3 came to power and how he battled other orc chieftains to get control of the orcs and unite them under one banner.

i'm also thinking to go beyond the portal to the realms from where all the creatures in chapter 3 came from. i'm thinking of a world on the brink of destruction who's only chance is opening this portal and getting out. with an objective like holding various spots (triggers) to open the portal. and it would include a mixture of decaying terits as well as killer neutrals to simulate the destruction of the world. or the neutral zombies if this feature is introduced by that time.

what does everybody think?

I'm all for it if you do it well.

I was originally going to say "Need I say more?" but then re-read what Ink said and decided to rephrase it..."I'm all for it as long as you make the maps"

I'm a big fantasy book buff and anyone who wants to turn one of my favorite stories into a game I can actually play, I'm a supporter! Someone is doing a map of Tar Valon (Robert Jordan: Wheel of Time) and I'm all for it too, he just needs the magic touch w/ maps that DiM has :wink:

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:21 am

gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

DiM needs al LEAST an 8bit color image to get something decent from such a mulitcolored image

Er - 8 bit is 256 colours...

I think you mean at least 16 bit.

C.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:22 am

hecter wrote:
DiM wrote:
gimil wrote:
DiM wrote:
fireedud wrote:awww..... I like the lightning

yeah but if you look at the image it is of a lower quality than the others because gifs support just 256 colours.

DiM needs al LEAST an 8bit color image to get something decent from such a mulitcolored image

even with a monochromatic image having just 256 colours is crap. try converting AoM to 256 colours, you'll see a huge decrease in quality. or try the midle east map. same thing, the quality will plummet.

Ya, the only reason that it worked with Conquerman is because you could probably get the same look with like, 64 colours...

In terms of the spinoffs, I think that that idea would be SO awesome

64 - I think you mean about 10?!

C.