jddonkeykong & dreamchaser multis or secret alliances [n

[king sam]

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance

Suspect users: jddonkeykong & dreamchaser

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?
game= 1809084

Comments: Im in a game with these 2 guys how have a history as of recently of playing in games together. Now what went on in those games I dont know but I can say for my game that is and was very apperant there working together. Of course since I have been complaining about it in chat they've made it a little less obvious now. But it was very apperant that one of them (jddonkeykong) was going to do nothing in the game, instead of trying to get his head above water which he coulda done by deploying and attacking his friend (dreamchaser) he makes a suicide run after me, disregarding the ability he would have had to break his partner's bonus's. And came all the way across the map towards me when his partner borders him on almost every side. I made the comment that they had played together and I thought that it was crap, since then they have still not gone after one another, but have since built up there armys around one another to make it look like its a less obvious of a chice. I know this sounds like whinning, but truly i dont care, I do think its crap that players do this, it takes the fun out of the game, and I would liked this looked at and stopped for future players. That kinda unfair advantage is not right. Im not sure if anyone else has encountered the same with these 2 guys in the games they played, but Im sure if you look at them you could find something. thanks mods

king sam

[Rexxx]

I made a similar complaint (about 2 other players) a few days ago. They also changed their actions only after I made it public here and in game chat once they became aware that they might get busted. However, mods haven't done anything yet - and my game is over for 2 days now already. So you better don't expect any action to be taken.

[king sam]

These are suspected Secret Alliance maybe even multis

Suspect users: jddonkeykong & dreamchaser

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?
game= 1809084

Comments: I made a complaint earlier in the forum how these two have played several games together, 5+ over the past month, and that how jddonkeykong in our game had no shot of winning, and instead of attacking the guy he has played with soo much over thte past month, how i might add was bordering him all around and was less guarded than me, he chose to go across 3 properties to come after me a more heavily guarded target. This is what raised the flag in my eyes, and this is how I found out that they knew each other. I'm not saying its a crime or cheating to play with people you know, but when your in a 3 person game and you make it that obvious to both go after the other person even when its out of your way and suicide its peculiar. This should have eliminated jddonkeykong or made it easier but when his partner dreamchaser is not attacking jddonkeykong even though jddonkeykong has left all his adjoining borders to dreamchaserwith one army.. Come on, there was no talk of an alliance, yet he feels comftorable not guarding himself when dreamchaser is touching him and has 9 armys in those spots. Yeah he feels comfotrable because its an unsaid alliance to both attack me, weaken me and either play against each other or give the other the game. This is not why i joined conquer club. I expect fair games, this is not fair, and these two should be prohibited from playing together...
king sam

[king sam]

now that i have brought it to everyone's attention dreamchaser has attacked his friends unguarded borders. However all you have to do is go back in the game log to see that jddonkeykongs borders were unguarded for 2 to 3 turns...

[king sam]

These are suspected Multis or secret alliances

Suspect users: jddonkeykong & dreamchaser

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php= 1809084

Comments: I made a complaint earlier in the forum how these two have played several games together, 5+ over the past month, and that how jddonkeykong in our game had no shot of winning, and instead of attacking the guy he has played with soo much over thte past month, how i might add was bordering him all around and was less guarded than me, he chose to go across 3 properties to come after me a more heavily guarded target. This is what raised the flag in my eyes, and this is how I found out that they knew each other. I'm not saying its a crime or cheating to play with people you know, but when your in a 3 person game and you make it that obvious to both go after the other person even when its out of your way and suicide its peculiar. This should have eliminated jddonkeykong or made it easier but when his partner dreamchaser is not attacking jddonkeykong even though jddonkeykong has left all his adjoining borders to dreamchaserwith one army.. Come on, there was no talk of an alliance, yet he feels comftorable not guarding himself when dreamchaser is touching him and has 9 armys in those spots. Yeah he feels comfotrable because its an unsaid alliance to both attack me, weaken me and either play against each other or give the other the game. This is not why i joined conquer club. I expect fair games, this is not fair, and these two should be prohibited from playing together...
king sam

king sam

[king sam]

sorry wanted to put it in the right format this time

[dreamchaser]

I cordially invite anyone to please visit game 1809084. Read the game log. Check my game history. I have played only 5 games against jddonkeykong and we have enjoyed a great rivalry. I hope to play many more games against him. This is obviously the last game I will be playing with king sam. His attitude and vulgar language take all the fun out of Conquer Club.

[Anarkistsdream]

I am confident in dreamchaser and jd, having played both of them a BUNCH of times.

There is no collusion between them.

[king sam]

im glad your confident in them. The vulgar language started with jddonkeykong if you care to check you resource and read the game chat. And how is it not collusion when jddonkeykong leaves his borders for his territories guarded with one everywhere that these two touch and he lasts two turns without gettting attacked by dreamchaser. You can say what you want, but you can check that in the game log. AND THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. If there would have been an alliance called out in chat, then ok, but there wasnt. Thanks, have a good day

[UselessTriviaMan]

My gawd, I hardly know where to begin...

Sam, they aren't cheating. No one is conspiring against you. There is no secret alliance. Both of your opponents are using something called "strategy" in that game. I'll spell it out for you: At the time, you were the strongest on the board. Smart players will attack the strongest on the board, and that's what they did. They didn't attack each other at that time, because doing so would have handed the game to you.

[king sam]

Can you please leave me the game number that you were in with dreamchaser... I would like to look at the game chat for myself to see if I thought any other players thought this guy played fishy... Thanks


Oh wait, you have never played a game with him huh. then why on earth would you vouch for him and explain that he doesnt corroborate with other players??

I am confident in dreamchaser and jd, having played both of them a BUNCH of times.

There is no collusion between them.

Look I have friends that I play with, in private games, now if I was to invite one of those friends in to a 3 person game and conducted myself the way these 2 did in such game Im sure people would raise the cheating flag on us. Bottom line is these 2 shouldnt be playing together against other people unless its team play, because to team up for the greater good of one of them in a 3 man game is cheating. And thats what happened, they can try to convince themselves and whoever else it was the best strategy to go after me and only me, but you cant hide the fact that if you have 10armys bordering a defenseless border and choose to do nothing about it because the person that is on that defenseless border is a friend of yours than thats an alliance, and if you didnt come out and bring that up in chat then its an unsaid alliance. Read the rules, those arent allowed because its not in the greater fairness of the game. Sorry had to call you out anark, but you shouldnt put yourself out there and claim to back dreamchaser based on all the games you've played with him when in all actuallity you've played none.

Have you played any with jddonkeykong? or is that a lie too?

[king sam]

My gawd, I hardly know where to begin...

Sam, they aren't cheating. No one is conspiring against you. There is no secret alliance. Both of your opponents are using something called "strategy" in that game. I'll spell it out for you: At the time, you were the strongest on the board. Smart players will attack the strongest on the board, and that's what they did. They didn't attack each other at that time, because doing so would have handed the game to you.

Dude I understand strategy and get the fact of that move early in the game, whats your explanation of having borders by jddonkeykong guarded with 1 army and dreamchaser having 10 adjoining that and waiting 3 turns before he attacked it? It may have taken longer if I hadnt called him out on it..

And dont think you can sway the fact that this is corruption by getting all your friends to come in here and comment in your favor jddonkeykong and dreamchaser. I looked at your previous games and saw how much uselss trivia has played with you dreamchaser.. Who you going to get next to jump on your bandwagon? J A X, or prodigy?

Cmon

[wicked]

keep it to one thread please.

[dreamchaser]

I may as well get my whole clan to come out. Have to make sure none of them are forced to endure this nonsense.

[treefiddy]

The simple question is, "Would you have won had they attacked each other and broke each other's bonus'?" If the answer is yes, then what is the problem with them playing whatever game works for their best chance to win. You winning = them not winning, so they would have to work together to take you down. This is normal in 3 player games, and does not need to be spoken as it's generally understood by the better players.

If jddonkeykong can't take you out by himself, what benefit does it serve for him to attack dreamchaser. If dreamchaser can't take you out by himself, what benefit does it serve to attack jddonkeykong? They were at a stage where they needed each other to even have a chance to win the game. You're pissed that they figured this out, and worked together to get back into the game. It's like you want them to knowingly hand the game to you.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=602261

There's a game I played with jddonkeykong. At one point is was 3 against 1 because he was far and away the leader. He complained a bit in chat, because the situation definitely sucks, but he didn't run to the cheating and abuse forum and cry about secret alliances against him.

[Fredrock]

First I play with and against DreamChaser A LOT and she is no cheater!!!! She is probably one of the more difficult players to win against but that doesn’t make her a cheater.

I took a look at the game in question and to be honest King I would have played the same way had i been Red. You were clearly the power and had a huge bonus coming. I would have done everything to take it away from you just like Red did. So I commend Red on a nice play. You on the other hand need to grow up and stop your bitching. Welcome to CC and becoming a target in a game. Get over it!!!!

[king sam]

honestly im done having all their friends jump in here on there defense. I really dont care. call it what u will, i do know strategy and i commend red on the move towards me, ur right it was in the best intrest of both of them. But u fuckn tards are missing the point thats not what the question at hand is., The point im raising is leaving ur borders unguarded for 3 turns before dreamcatcher did anything about it. Please keep telling more of your friends to get on her and comment about it. Cause your just making urself look dumber.

I dont care about what else you have to say, and you cant defend urself or ur friends on the account of not attacking jddonkeyscrub for 3 turns so thats why ur avoiding it. So please keep it coming

[dreamchaser]

Why on earth would I waste my time attacking someone who wasn't even a threat? My border was strongly defended. I had no need to attack such a weak opponent, especially when you continued to hold half the board. I am certainly not the one who's coming across looking ignorant here.

[Anarkistsdream]

honestly im done having all their friends jump in here on there defense. I really dont care. call it what u will, i do know strategy and i commend red on the move towards me, ur right it was in the best intrest of both of them. But u fuckn tards are missing the point thats not what the question at hand is., The point im raising is leaving ur borders unguarded for 3 turns before dreamcatcher did anything about it. Please keep telling more of your friends to get on her and comment about it. Cause your just making urself look dumber.

I dont care about what else you have to say, and you cant defend urself or ur friends on the account of not attacking jddonkeyscrub for 3 turns so thats why ur avoiding it. So please keep it coming

And by calling people names, it makes you look like a really legit guy with a legit case...

[king sam]

aright i coughed up the apology and said i'd drop the accusation of cheating. I still believe for all future players need to be weary playing the 2 of u in a 3 man game, but thats my opinion. And your friend anarkistsdream, y is he still talking didnt i prove him to be a liar already?
Im glad that you guys had to get your friends to jump on your bandwagon and couldnt settle this issue yourself.. But like I said I guess I played the role of the bigger man, by not having others fight my fights for me and apologizing... this is over with, just quit talking about it.

But hopefully others will get out of this experience to watch out for you teaming up with your friends in other games, cause thats the only result i wanted. To make sure others dont get cheated. Not that I was, but to make sure it wont happen in the future.


WELL PLAYED GAME TO BOTH OF YOU

[Anarkistsdream]

aright i coughed up the apology and said i'd drop the accusation of cheating. I still believe for all future players need to be weary playing the 2 of u in a 3 man game, but thats my opinion. And your friend anarkistsdream, y is he still talking didnt i prove him to be a liar already?
Im glad that you guys had to get your friends to jump on your bandwagon and couldnt settle this issue yourself.. But like I said I guess I played the role of the bigger man, by not having others fight my fights for me and apologizing... this is over with, just quit talking about it.

But hopefully others will get out of this experience to watch out for you teaming up with your friends in other games, cause thats the only result i wanted. To make sure others dont get cheated. Not that I was, but to make sure it wont happen in the future.


WELL PLAYED GAME TO BOTH OF YOU

Bravo, a man only looking out for OTHERS.

What bullshit.

hahaha

[dreamchaser]

Indeed.

Thanks for the support. I recognize the name probably just because it has "dream" in it just like mine.

Funny how he presumes I know you and jddonkeykong.

Anytime you want to play, let me know. Hey! We should get jd in on it too!

[treefiddy]

aright i coughed up the apology and said i'd drop the accusation of cheating. I still believe for all future players need to be weary playing the 2 of u in a 3 man game, but thats my opinion. And your friend anarkistsdream, y is he still talking didnt i prove him to be a liar already?
Im glad that you guys had to get your friends to jump on your bandwagon and couldnt settle this issue yourself.. But like I said I guess I played the role of the bigger man, by not having others fight my fights for me and apologizing... this is over with, just quit talking about it.

But hopefully others will get out of this experience to watch out for you teaming up with your friends in other games, cause thats the only result i wanted. To make sure others dont get cheated. Not that I was, but to make sure it wont happen in the future.


WELL PLAYED GAME TO BOTH OF YOU

I'm sorry, you are not the bigger man in this case. You came whining to the forums when they didn't hand you an easy win, and we all called you out on it. You then blindly accused all of us of being friends with the other players. I'm not a friend of either player, I've just played in a game with JD that I remembered because it was one of the worst experiences I've had on this site (due to Yellow).

Apologizing doesn't make you the bigger man in this case. Even if you meant it, which you clearly do not from the rest of your posts.

And yes, we all do get the point. Feeding extra armies to another player that is in the weakest position that will be used to fight off the clear leader is a benefit to both players and is not shady, cheap, or cheating. 2 turns to 15 turns, if you are the clear leader, they need to do whatever they can to stop that. If the behavior continued several turns after you lost "clear leadership" status and they eliminated you, you would have a case.

[Emmaspoppy]

I won't dig up the game and I won't name names, but the most enjoyable game I have played..outside of my clan games, was a long flat rate British Isles that had the same scenario you are describing here. The nasty cheats talked strategy in chat, left unguarded borders between each other and picked on me for 20 rounds.

Can you imagine!!!

I lost the game, well over 80 rounds...imagine!

Umm, they did the right thing, made a terrific game when it was well in my hands, and played exactly as they should have...very similar to your game.

I would have done the same, and do on a regular basis.

You are mistaken in your accusations. Please consider before you make yourself look worse.

[Cujo]

These two players are definitely not multis nor do they have a secret alliance. This is simply a ridiculous claim by someone who got beat and now is crying about it.

This thread should be locked.