****Fantasy Land Invasion**** -- Town Squashed the Invasion

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:50 pm

how long do we have Mr. Voice in the Sky?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:55 pm

Aproximately until the USA evening of October 3rd, a Lynch must be decided.

--Andy

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:39 pm

If Phobia, is telling the truth then we have a 3/4 chance of lynching mafia, dont ask me how I know, because I cant explain without giving stuff away that I dont need to.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:53 pm

you mean by voting for moz?

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:56 pm

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Also, a cop is pretty standard in this game, if the cop could confirm anyone innocent, I think that we could still win.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:02 am

I just did a quick reread, and sully appears to be the only person (out of my 4 suspects) that has contributed. Also, the other three suspects allign themselves together.

I would bet money that Moz, Rev Kyle and Haydena are all mafia.

Phobia and Sully, What do I have to do to get you to vote for moz?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:04 am

sully's out of town until sunday night, according to his earlier post.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:05 am

You agree with my list, right Wicked?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:09 am

yes, I came to the same conclusion before.... although I was unsure about phobia until he posted recently. haydena and rk have supported moz and aligned themselves with him, so yeah, I agree to those three.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:15 am

So now we just wait for Phobia and Sully to get back?

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:52 am

hey, sorry, i thought it was down for 24 hours so i never bothered checking

well if youre that confident that one of them is mafia, then i would go for it. however if you two are wrong again i will vote for either of you during the night. because at the moment it seems either mach and wicked are the mafia, or rev, hay and moz are. so i guess its a win-win situation for me

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:53 am

well, win-win if i have the luck to kill someone

50% chance...

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:59 am

Machiavelli wrote:If Phobia, is telling the truth then we have a 3/4 chance of lynching mafia, dont ask me how I know, because I cant explain without giving stuff away that I dont need to.

Giving away stuff I don't need to? What could that mean? Surely at this point in the game it matters not if you give away that you are a townie with a special role, it will only make things easier. If you are infact a townie then it would make Phobia's life in choosing a lot easier and we'd know who to lynch. But that just makes me awfully suspicious.

Also the fact that you and wicked seem to have now bonded together. You say that we must be mafia because we have defended each other? What about you two? You seem pretty close, and just for the record, I haven't actually defended Moz at all yet. He does seem a little suspicious.

Then there is Phobia, maybe he's making his role up, maybe he is diverting the attention towards everyone else and he is silently making his moves.

At the moment however I have strong suspicions of you Mach, you know this game well, and I've suspected you from the start...

Haydena · Post by **Haydena** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:03 am

Oh... And you two (mach and wicked) have been the only two posting, making assumptions and assuming everyone else will go along with them. Is this because you are mafia perhaps?

You seem to make suggestions that wicked blindly follows. Because I have not defended Moz at all, you are the only one who is dead certain that mach is right. I think you two have a connection with each other.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:19 am

Haydena wrote:I think you two have a connection with each other.

Yes we do. I bread-crumbed it pretty obviously that I am a Mason, go back and reread, you should be able to find it.

Wicked is a seer, meaning that she can talk to me at night.

If Phobia is telling the truth (and I think he is) then we have 3 confirmed townies.

That leaves sully Haydena, Rev kyle, and Moz

3 of you 4 are mafia.

Sully is out of town so he cant vote for Moz, but you two have the facts right in front of you and you still do not vote. You may not be defending your comrade but you certainly arent going against him.

And I never said that you were defending moz, just that you alligned yourself with him in the begining of the game.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:26 am

Hay, you may not be actively supporting Moz now, but I went back and look how you voted and suggested who to lynch and it was supportive of moz. I came to this conclusion by myself though, not with help from Mach. If you'll look back I mentioned you as possible mafia before he came out with his list. So I'm not blindly following anyone here, but yes, Mach and I can converse at night through the power of me being a Seer. You think we would admit that we could talk at night if we were mafia???

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:57 pm

I haven't voted for moz becuase I'm not sure he's mafia. I need more facts and evidence supporting that he's mafia because I care about the town. I know that if we dont lynch mafia tonight the games over because that only leaves one townie and then the mafia can just systematically vote together and get it out becuase they will then have the majority.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:21 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I haven't voted for moz becuase I'm not sure he's mafia.

No, you haven't voted for moz because you are sure he is mafia

reverend_kyle wrote: I need more facts and evidence supporting that he's mafia because I care about the town.

Well, I dont know how much more can be shown, there is a three in four chance that moz is mafia

reverend_kyle wrote: I know that if we dont lynch mafia tonight the games over because that only leaves one townie

How do you figure that?

If we lynch a townie then there are 3 mafia and 3 townies left[/b]

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:28 pm

Kyle, do you believe me, wicked and phobia?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:34 pm

Machiavelli wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I haven't voted for moz becuase I'm not sure he's mafia.
No, you haven't voted for moz because you are sure he is mafia

reverend_kyle wrote: I need more facts and evidence supporting that he's mafia because I care about the town.

Well, I dont know how much more can be shown, there is a three in four chance that moz is mafia

reverend_kyle wrote: I know that if we dont lynch mafia tonight the games over because that only leaves one townie

How do you figure that?

If we lynch a townie then there are 3 mafia and 3 townies left[/b]

Then the mafia kills one and there are 3 mafia and 2 townies... basically its do or die here.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:59 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Kyle, do you believe me, wicked and phobia?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:01 pm

wicked wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:Kyle, do you believe me, wicked and phobia?

I dont know who to believe, you and wicked could be mafia and use this seer thing as a lie to say you can speak at night and not be considered mafia.. case in point you guys could be a great executed ploy.. Phobia is the most believable one.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:32 pm

Well well, I am very glad I postponed my thoughts from entering this thread until I could return and view this conversation.

It's information time for all the other townies out there and I think we can still win the game.

I am the cop, so I can guarantee two pieces of information right now: Moz is mafia and machiavelli is a townie.

The first night I investigated AK, which turned out to be a waste, since I was told he was innocent and he died during the night. However, since I knew he had been innocent I figured Pilate or Moz had killed him off (as I stated earlier in the game) and investigated Moz to prove he was guilty. I thought we might score by killing Pilate, but we missed again. Fortunately Moz and his henchmen didn't kill me in the night. Why? Because I said if they killed me it would prove that Moz was in the mafia (which would be obvious to everyone since I'd have the cop tag next to my name). So they left me alone and killed Bogus. That night I investigated Mach because he seemed to be hanging low and I was suspicious of that....however that was a bad move again because I confirmed that Mach was innocent, and then the first post of the new day was Mach convicting Moz. If I had interrogated wicked or Rev last night I might feel much more comfortable with our current situation.

So now we need a plan for our current course of action.

I trust wicked now, since I know mach is innocent, and they have stated that they communicate at night.

I trust Phobia, because I believe they tried to fram Phobia for bogusbet's death after they realized they couldn't kill me. Now since I trust Phobia, that makes his revelation about the secret role even more enticing because it can seal the game up for us right now.

So.... NO ONE should vote for Moz tonight. He is 100% guilty and will die any way. Phobia needs to vote for Moz in the night because then we get a confirmed kill and Phobia does not need to risk himself (if you are just playing us Phobia then I am a fool, and I am sorry to Mach and wicked).

Tonight I think we need to eliminate Haydena. Of him and the Rev, Haydena looks the most suspicious to me. Then Phobia gets to kill Moz tonight and at most there should only be 1 mafia member left. If Haydena is innocent then maybe we just have 5 townies vs. 2 mafia, and Rev dies tomorrow. However I think Andy gave the townies a bunch of power, with a doctor, a cop, Phobia's role, wicked the seer, and a locked secret role from Icey (which I assume was a replacement doctor or cop). Since we have a lot of power there are probably 3 mafia.

I'm confident that I will die tonight. Mach needs to take over the role as the leader of the townies since my death will confirm his innocence. If you are a townie and you are getting a bad end of this deal (Rev Kyle) you need to trust Mach. However as I see it now, all 3 of you are gonna die and the mafia will win.

Vote Haydena

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:32 pm

why would we even admit this all if we were mafia? The mafia had this game in hand, so could continue on in the same manner (as RK, moz and haydena have done) until all us townies were dead. Phobia, Mach and myself have all come out with revelations recently in an attempt to turn the tide in our (i.e. townies) favor and to get all the info out there.

Since we're obviously not going to convince the mafia to vote for themselves, we need votes from Phobia and Sully now to lynch our next mafia.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:39 pm

^^^ my last post was in response to RK ^^^

wow sulley, your logic is sound and I agree we need to save Phobia. It's a toss-up for me between Haydena and RK, but I trust you as the cop so will go with your vote.

Unvote Moz
Vote Haydena