Deadwood Mafia Its all over! Thanks for playing

[ExplainThis]

I had an interesting idea that I would like some feedback on.

Browng was caught quite easily because of a lousy fake claim. This leads to believe that the mafia have not been supplied with fake claims to use. Now as I said before, I'm not too familiar with Deadwood. I wouldn't be able to say with much certainty which characters are likely to be part of the Hearst mafia or the Gem Saloon mafia. I'm sure some of you can though.

That's why I would like to propose a mass name-claim. Mind you: not a roleclaim! We would all only claim the name of our characters. The only drawback I could think of is that some names might give away the role too, like Doc Cochrane or whatever his name is. I still think it's worth the risk though.

We would have to decide on an order to claim in: scummiest persons claim first. We could vote on that matter, for instance by having everyone give his top-3 list of people he wants to see claim first. It would have to be worked out in detail a bit more, but I think you get the idea.

Could everyone please explicitely state whether they like this idea or not? Please nobody hammer cena before this is resolved, because if we're ever going to do this, now would be a good time.

I dislike the idea. Some sort of soft claims should at least be done first if we go threw with it. (ie gender)

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I think as a whole it's too early to do the mass claim.

[Iliad]

Mandy's logic seems to make sense

unvote vote cena

[Sierra_Leon]

I don't really like how people are voting cena without giving any arguments for themselves. Everyone seems to be like "We'll just do what Mando says and if cena turns up town, we'll simply blame it on him". There's already 6 votes on cena without him having replied yet. I'm suspicious of cena too, but at least I'm giving him a chance to defend against these accusations.


As to my name-claim proposal:

I dislike the idea. Some sort of soft claims should at least be done first if we go threw with it. (ie gender)

That might be a good idea. I don't think gender is right for this theme though, as I believe there are far more men in the show than women. (or am I wrong here?) Alternatives would be the first letter of either the first or last name, or the amount of letters in either the first or last name.

I think as a whole it's too early to do the mass claim.

Could you give some more clarification as to why it's too early? I think this is an excellent time, now that we have a pretty good idea of what scum groups we're dealing with.

[Koesen]

I wouldn't mind replacing someone, especially if it's a good role

[Koesen]

I wouldn't mind replacing someone, especially if it's a good role

Though to be fair, Kalishnikov volunteered first. But if you need two people...

[diddle]

PS:

Oh and one more thing before I forget.

sorry can we have 72 hours it would be easier.

Need more time to discuss with your scum buddies?

Vote nagerous.

I realised the scumminess of the sentence after I wrote it lol. Anyway I've said Sierra_Scumone a number of times pushing against me is going up the wrong avenue. There was a reason behind me wanting extra time that I would rather not divulge into as it is sensitive to the game dynamic. Both diddle and mandy know it... I think (if you don't don't worry) but I can trust you guys .

Alright, I have a fair amount of trust in diddle and mandy in this game, so if they can confirm this I'll get off your back.

Could diddle and mandy respond to this too, please?

I don't want to say too much, but I've acknowledged this and agree with it.

[CrabNebula]

And I think I'll also join the bandwagon with kalish and Koesen. If you need replacement, I'm always here

[Anarkistsdream]

Well, I'll give one simple reason why I do not like the mass claim idea.

Then what's the point of playing!?

The whole point is to try and figure it out. If we all just mass claim, then all of the scum have to reveal their names, or lie and be caught in a flim-flam.

This takes all the fun out of it for the rest of us, because then why are we searching for scum?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Well, I'll give one simple reason why I do not like the mass claim idea.

Then what's the point of playing!?

The whole point is to try and figure it out. If we all just mass claim, then all of the scum have to reveal their names, or lie and be caught in a flim-flam.

This takes all the fun out of it for the rest of us, because then why are we searching for scum?

ditto.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

In fact, I'll go as far and say if this game turns into just a mass name claim then go ahead and replace me as it would defeat the whole purpose of trying to figure out who the scum is and yes, i've already stated who I was to nail a scum. The difference was we had someone under pressure and that was the way to seal the deal.

[nagerous]

Forgot to put you on the list of trusted townies btw LSU.

[kalishnikov]

Cocksuckers.

[Talapus]

Ok, I finally went back through to see if I could find something a bit more concrete to help the case against cena. Not only couldn't I really find any more evidence, but cena has apparently been very quiet throughout the whole game. The most activity from him was when ga7 took over for a few days. Now I really liked mandy's logic against him because browng was scum. And there have been quite a few games I've seen where newb mafia vote for fellow mafia just so they can say they aren't working together. But after looking back at browng's history I came across this:

vote serbia

OH NOES! Fircoal bandwagon....

What to do...

I don't know.

*cries*

That's it!
unvote
vote Fircoal

So, browng did the same exact thing to Serbia as he did to Cena. I'm not really sure why mandy missed this because it's on the same page....but whatever. Then there was just lots of vote hopping on browng's part for all sorts of reasons.

Anyway, the way I see it we have a few options:

1)Lynch cena because it does look like browng voted and unvoted him just so he could claim they weren't working together. But if we do this then Serbia had better be the next to get lynched on that logic.

2)Add more pressure and push for a claim and decide then. We'd have to do the same to Serbia.

3) Move on and try to find something else for the time being or more evidence to support it.

Either way, I have to downgrade my vote(so Unvote) and FOS cena for now instead. If someone can show me something somewhere I may have missed then I'll revote, but for now I see this as a better option.

Also mandy, I'm curious as to why you went all the way back to the beginning of the game to find this evidence yet somehow missed the quote above. Any idea?

[gimpyThewonder]

koesen 2.0 replaces lalaland 2.0
crabnebula replaces russianfire

[Koesen]

Confirm.

The main thought I had while following this day, was: 'why the hell is LSU not on any of those trusted people lists?' But I see that has been dealt with pending my resurrection.

Furthermore, I tend to trust Nagerous, Diddle and Mandy, since there seems to be some kind of link between them, as well as AD, for the same reasons I did in my previous life.

Otherwise, I have slightly less faith in ET and slightly more in F1fth and Iliad, though as far as I'm concerned, nothing is certain.

As for the name claim: talented scum can attempt to find a fake name, so I don't exclude anything myself, but if it leads to LSU and AD quitting, I guess we'd better not.

And before you ask: I'm still pro town

[Koesen]

Oh yes, why hasn't anybody asked Skoffin who she watched and what she saw?

Is there an unwritten 'let's leave Skoffin alone until she kills us all rule'?

Seriously. She has claimed already, so there's absolutely no excuse for her flying under the radar. Share what you know, before you take it to your grave. Even knowing somebody wasn't visited may be worth something in the end.

[Anarkistsdream]

Oh yes, why hasn't anybody asked Skoffin who she watched and what she saw?

Is there an unwritten 'let's leave Skoffin alone until she kills us all rule'?

Seriously. She has claimed already, so there's absolutely no excuse for her flying under the radar. Share what you know, before you take it to your grave. Even knowing somebody wasn't visited may be worth something in the end.

I'll be honest. I completely forgot that she said she was a watcher.

Hopefully, she has actually been using her power at night. If she has been, though, why would we have to pry it out of her? If you really were a watcher, wouldn't you WANT to share the info?

FOS: Skoffin

As for me quitting if there is a mass role claim. I never said I would. I just said the game wouldn't be any fun, that way.

if that's what we want to do, though, I suppose I will participate.

[Anarkistsdream]

Talapus, I suggest we follow either choice #1 or #2 out of those 3.

When we already have things to go on, to completely disregard them and move on would be a waste of time, possibly giving the scum a chance to screw someone over.

I suppose I will go along with this cena business, as it seems fairly solid. However, I am still quite certain that ET and Clive are Hearst mafia.

Unvote

The real question is should we put pressure on Serbia or Cena, and why? So far, Serbia has really seemed OK to me, but he may be agreeing with me just to make himself look town.

[Skoffin]

First, I oppose the mass claim bit. That is best left closer to the end and I don't think we're quite there yet. That and I don't want the doc outted

Last night someone bribed me to watch Mandy, I took it and nothing happened. Also with that gained gold I intend to play a game with some of you cocksuckers. Anyway, no one targeted Mando.

[Anarkistsdream]

First, I oppose the mass claim bit. That is best left closer to the end and I don't think we're quite there yet. That and I don't want the doc outted

Last night someone bribed me to watch Mandy, I took it and nothing happened. Also with that gained gold I intend to play a game with some of you cocksuckers. Anyway, no one targeted Mando.

Mandalorian, does this sound right to you, you Croatian cunt?

Sorry, you all keep cussing!

[Skittles!]

Gimpy, is it possible to put players role names on the first page? It helps.

Thanks.

[Iliad]

I also oppose the mass claim. It just defeats the purpose of the game.

[Sierra_Leon]

Bah. Forget about the mass claim then, too many people are opposing it. Just be sure to remember: this is a good way to catch scum when the time comes.

Mod: can cena be prodded? I feel like everyone is waiting for a response from him, but he doesn't post. This is weird, because in the meantime he seems to have found the time to mod his own newbie game.

[Iliad]

Bah. Forget about the mass claim then, too many people are opposing it. Just be sure to remember: this is a good way to catch scum when the time comes.

Mod: can cena be prodded? I feel like everyone is waiting for a response from him, but he doesn't post. This is weird, because in the meantime he seems to have found the time to mod his own newbie game.

but the problem is it is good to catch scum but it defeats the purpose of the game