One Puppy vs One Million Iraqis

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:42 am

http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2008/ ... e-pay.html

Just curious on people's reactions to this. My opinion is that this Marine wasn't wearing his thinking cap that particular day. But the question is, why do people get so upset over one puppy when probably over a million people have been killed over this war?

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:49 am

While I do not condone throwing living animals off cliffs, if only for the reason that it makes no sense, I really don't get what's the big deal about puppies. We eat all kinds of animals and barely anyone complains, but as soon as it's something "cute" people seem to lose whatever traces of intelligence they had before.

Now, I followed this link and they're not even sure whether the dog was alive or dead when it was thrown off the cliff. If you feel like boosting your ego by throwing a dead animal off a cliff and posting the video on Youtube, fine, go ahead and make a fool of yourself.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:27 am

MeDeFe wrote:While I do not condone throwing living animals off cliffs, if only for the reason that it makes no sense, I really don't get what's the big deal about puppies. We eat all kinds of animals and barely anyone complains, but as soon as it's something "cute" people seem to lose whatever traces of intelligence they had before.

Simple biology.

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:45 am

The comments on that page you linked to are an argument for eugenics.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:04 am

people get pretty fired up on that comment page indeed.

sgo220 · Post by **sgo220** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:45 pm

Hi peole i love puppies but like to chop off their head with a lawn mower

Just Kidding

But yet why would i want to through them off a cliff i mean really

Hummmmm Does dog taste like chicken ?

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:54 pm

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hecter · Post by **hecter** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:56 pm

I think Iraqis are cute and cuddly, so I disapprove of killing them, just as I disapprove of killing puppies.

However, the US military approves of killing Iraqis, and so the war continues... Personally, I'd rather have 1'000'000 innocent dead puppies than 1 innocent dead Iraqi, but hey, that's just me...

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:01 pm

/agree

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:27 pm

As said earlier, who doesn't object to killing puppies? I don't even squash insects. Killing things for no reason is a sign that you're a Sick f*ck, or perhaps a sociopath.

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:44 pm

heavycola wrote:The comments on that page you linked to are an argument for eugenics.

Isn't that like genocide against retards or something?

jimboston · Post by **jimboston** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:57 pm

Obviously human life is more important than animal life.
(If you disagree with this statement then GFY... I don't wanna hear it.)

That said... the puppy was killed (assuming the vid is real) for no reason. It was a malicious act with intent. It was not a threat... it was not a perceived threat... and it was not an accident.

Human death in Iraq, at the hands of US/Allied forces, occurs either because the individuals are combatants (i.e. threats)... or perceived threats... or they are killed accidentally in the cross-fire.

Obviously there are examples of human death at the hands of US/Allies... that were not combatants, or perceived threats, or accidents. This is called murder... and there SHOULD be outrage over these acts.

I would not call killing a puppy murder.

The reason there is outrage over this malicious violent killing of an animal (likely a pet of some Iraqi kid) is because it is caught on video. I am sure that if the incidents in the media where US forces are accused of murder were on video.... and if the soldiers were laughing like they are in that video... there would be even more outrage.

Jim

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:02 pm

apey · Post by **apey** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:04 pm

It's peta they are outta control

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:09 pm

jimboston wrote: Human death in Irag, at the hands of US/Allied forces, occurs either because the individuals are combatants (i.e. threats)... or perceived threats... or they are killed accidentally in the cross-fire.

Wouldn't you fight the people who invaded your country?

They are just defending themselves.

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Dekloren wrote:
jimboston wrote: Human death in Irag, at the hands of US/Allied forces, occurs either because the individuals are combatants (i.e. threats)... or perceived threats... or they are killed accidentally in the cross-fire.
Wouldn't you fight the people who invaded your country?

They are just defending themselves.

He isn't saying they are evil or anything, just (using his words) combatants.

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:24 pm

They did nothing to deserve what happens to them.

Their country got invaded to overthrow Saddam, which was done pretty much within the first week of the invasion.

It's a bullshit farce and the US is committing genocide.

Stop the war criminals.

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:00 am

Twice as many Iraqis would have died by now if the US had left after they had defeated Saddam.

I get a kick out of people like the poster above me. They're so fast to point out how something should have been done to stop genocide in Rawanda but they want the US to pull out of Iraq so that the same thing happens there.

Also, this website is about world domination. I think you're playing the wrong game if you harbor such destructive pacifism.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:03 am

GabonX wrote: Also, this website is about world domination. I think you're playing the wrong game if you harbor such destructive pacifism.

i'm sorry, but not all of us play conquerclub/RISK because we truly do, one day, wish to take over the world and purify it.
many games let us do something we normally cannot do in real life, and does not necessarily mean given the chance we actually will do it.
i.e. Need for Speed, Grand Theft Auto, Monopoly, RTS games, etc.

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:06 am

Hitman079 wrote:
GabonX wrote: Also, this website is about world domination. I think you're playing the wrong game if you harbor such destructive pacifism.
i'm sorry, but not all of us play conquerclub/RISK because we truly do, one day, wish to take over the world and purify it.
many games let us do something we normally cannot do in real life, and does not necessarily mean given the chance we actually will do it.
i.e. Need for Speed, Grand Theft Auto, Monopoly, RTS games, etc.

Well...
I hope you're ready to face aggressive drivers, be beaten and mugged, lose your house, and eventualy become enslaved by the rest of us.

UCAbears · Post by **UCAbears** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:13 am

That's fucking rediculous. That guy should be thrown off a cliff for that. If I ever see that guy im going to show him how to treat animals. That guy is a sick f*ck and I can't stand to watch that. That pisses me off so bad.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:15 am

UCAbears wrote:That's fucking rediculous. That guy should be thrown off a cliff for that. If I ever see that guy im going to show him how to treat animals. That guy is a sick f*ck and I can't stand to watch that. That pisses me off so bad.

true, but read other's posts here. they have valid points. the title of this thread is a puppy vs a million iraqis.
basically, the essence is this: people are outraged over the killing of a puppy, but never about the killing of thousands of innocent iraqi civilians caught in the crossfire.

UCAbears · Post by **UCAbears** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:22 am

Hitman079 wrote:
UCAbears wrote:That's fucking rediculous. That guy should be thrown off a cliff for that. If I ever see that guy im going to show him how to treat animals. That guy is a sick f*ck and I can't stand to watch that. That pisses me off so bad.
true, but read other's posts here. they have valid points. the title of this thread is a puppy vs a million iraqis.
basically, the essence is this: people are outraged over the killing of a puppy, but never about the killing of thousands of innocent iraqi civilians caught in the crossfire.

I care about that stuff to but the civilians caught in crossfire is accidental. That is clearly on purpose and he should face the same consequences that Mike Vick faced. It's just really sad to see something like that happen. What makes it worse is the dog is yelping and you can hear is stop abruptly. It's just disgusting that someone would do that.

jimboston · Post by **jimboston** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:22 am

Frigidus wrote:
Dekloren wrote:
jimboston wrote: Human death in Iraq, at the hands of US/Allied forces, occurs either because the individuals are combatants (i.e. threats)... or perceived threats... or they are killed accidentally in the cross-fire.
Wouldn't you fight the people who invaded your country?

They are just defending themselves.
He isn't saying they are evil or anything, just (using his words) combatants.

Thank you... my post makes no judgement on the rightenous or lack-of-same in regards to the war/invasion/occupation (i.e. whatever you want to call it). My post is a simple explanation answering to the best of my ability the question originally posed by the thread.

Which is "why are people up in arms about this video?".

Jim

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:36 am

To be fair, here is a video of a good Marine with a puppy! Please don't think that all Marines are psychopaths, that is not the case. My brother is a Master Gunny and he would never do something as dumb as toss a puppy off a cliff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2XcSKOtt4

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