Congrats to BENJIKAT IS DEAD

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:28 am

Who's reached the level of Colonel recently.

Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...

C.

MOBAJOBG · Post by **MOBAJOBG** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:32 am

Congratz, BID. Well, as usual I'm up for a game.

KoE_Sirius · Post by **KoE_Sirius** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:05 am

Is he the 3rd highest ranking multi?
Congrats

roadwarrior · Post by **roadwarrior** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 am

yeti_c wrote:Who's reached the level of Colonel recently.

Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...

C.

He will kill you, watch out!

Itrade · Post by **Itrade** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:51 am

Wait wait wait, I thought he was leaving after he got addicted and it upset his wife?

Shatners Bassoon · Post by **Shatners Bassoon** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:39 am

yeti_c wrote:Who's reached the level of Colonel recently.

Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...

C.

I've had that pleasure.

pimphawks70 · Post by **pimphawks70** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:55 am

Itrade wrote:Wait wait wait, I thought he was leaving after he got addicted and it upset his wife?

Well you the mods let him have a new account even though they tell people to only have one account!

Kemmler · Post by **Kemmler** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:14 am

Itrade wrote:Wait wait wait, I thought he was leaving after he got addicted and it upset his wife?

she may hijack it again.

however, this is seriosuly impressive. he can PWN anyone on waterloo.

TheBro · Post by **TheBro** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:24 pm

KoE_Sirius wrote:Is he the 3rd highest ranking multi?
Congrats

You are twisting the story. While he may be technically be called a "multi," his other account is not being used, and certainly not being used to run up his score. He did not use a multi to get to colonel.

icedagger · Post by **icedagger** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:42 pm

If there's a Benjikat Kicked My Arse on Waterloo club I'd like to join

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:56 pm

TheBro wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:Is he the 3rd highest ranking multi?
Congrats
You are twisting the story. While he may be technically be called a "multi," his other account is not being used, and certainly not being used to run up his score. He did not use a multi to get to colonel.

So we can all start new accounts ?

TheBro · Post by **TheBro** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:29 pm

I'm not saying that, but it should be clear that he is technically a multi who did not cheat to get his score right now.

BaldAdonis · Post by **BaldAdonis** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:32 pm

yeti_c wrote:Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...

We'll have a 3 game series coming up soon. Afterwards you can read the log to see how to beat him.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:39 pm

BaldAdonis wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...
We'll have a 3 game series coming up soon. Afterwards you can read the log to see how to beat him.

Baldy is my hero!!!!

amazzony · Post by **amazzony** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:38 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
BaldAdonis wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Anyone who wants to lose some points - play this sucka on Waterloo...
We'll have a 3 game series coming up soon. Afterwards you can read the log to see how to beat him.
Baldy is my hero!!!!

Nice, go get him BA

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:07 pm

TheBro wrote:I'm not saying that, but it should be clear that he is technically a multi who did not cheat to get his score right now.

sure he cheated-- he gained all his strategies and tactics from his previous account to apply it to his new one. according to wicked from a conversation weeks ago, a player [he] is to be stripped of his premium and forced to play with his original account. if this has been a repeated offense , the player [he] is to be banned.

what,me worry? · Post by **what,me worry?** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:10 pm

when my score plummets, It was my "wife" and I'll also be needing a new account. For my "safety" of course.....

Sir. Ricco · Post by **Sir. Ricco** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:11 pm

Good job man.

KoE_Sirius · Post by **KoE_Sirius** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:20 pm

TheBro wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:Is he the 3rd highest ranking multi?
Congrats
You are twisting the story. While he may be technically be called a "multi," his other account is not being used, and certainly not being used to run up his score. He did not use a multi to get to colonel.

So he is Techically the third highest Multi on our scoreboard then..The other 2 multis have reasons for being there too..Not as good as benjikats tho I must ad-mit.

BENJIKAT IS DEAD · Post by **BENJIKAT IS DEAD** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:30 pm

Thanks for all the kind words from (most of) you - my rapid rise is somewhat unexpected - and I now have the much bigger challenge of trying to keep it.

However as soon as I saw this thread this morning I was certain it would descend into this:

Scott-Land wrote:
TheBro wrote:I'm not saying that, but it should be clear that he is technically a multi who did not cheat to get his score right now.
sure he cheated-- he gained all his strategies and tactics from his previous account to apply it to his new one. according to wicked from a conversation weeks ago, a player [he] is to be stripped of his premium and forced to play with his original account. if this has been a repeated offense , the player [he] is to be banned.

"cheat" is a very very big word that I am - to be honest - devastated to have had leveled at me. The majority of my games (with this and my previous account) are 1v1 sequential games - so no freestyle shenanigans and no account sitting abuse potential.

As far as I can tell, the only way in which this account is "untrue" is in it's win % (which I will very clearly never be claiming to be accurate or use for any records etc.) - if anything it warns players off playing me! - and I have now updated my profile page to make this more plain.

Scott-land - Please substantiate your accusation - precisely what material benefit I have tried (whether successful or not) to gain illicitly by "cheating". I now have the craziest nickname, which prompts many queries and I have never once not been upfront with people about this being my 2nd account.

You may think that the second time round, I'll gain points more easily to start with, and whilst this is true, it doesn't actually warp the scoring system - why? - because each person's score is only really about the last hundred or so games (maybe a little more if you only play 1v1,dubs,trips quads) - i.e. mathematically, given the same set of results against players of a set score you'll end up with the same score regardless of your starting position. (I would be grateful if someone with a better current grip on their maths would expand on this - Sully?? - but I am totally sure it is true)

BTW - This is the email that "busted" accounts get (and please remember that I reported myself):

Hello BENJIKAT IS DEAD,

Your activity on Conquer Club has aroused suspicion and triggered an investigation by a staff member. It has been determined that you most likely have duplicate accounts, in violation of Rule #1 of Conquer Club (i.e. no multiple accounts) with the following: benjikat.

Multiple accounts pose a big problem for multiplayer games -- duplicate accounts are usually created to get around the maximum number of simultaneous games limit, or to dominate a game with multiple accounts. It is not only annoying to other players, but the excessive use of server resources is unfair to everyone.

Comparing the billing information is the only reliable way to verify uniqueness of an account. It also greatly reduces the risk of someone creating several accounts for themselves.

If you have Free Membership:
We've blocked you from playing new games and posting to the forum. The only way to remove this limitation is to upgrade to Premium Membership. Our Premium Membership fee shouldn't be too much for something you can enjoy every day. Plus, you'll be supporting the development of new features and continuous improvements to the website.

If you have Premium Membership and this is your first violation:
We've cancelled your Premium Membership and blocked you from playing games with the members mentioned above.

If you have Premium Membership and this is your second violation:
We've cancelled your Premium Membership and blocked you from playing new games and posting to the forum. The only way to remove this limitation is to upgrade to Premium Membership once again.

Regards,
The Conquer Club

As you can see, it is addressed to this second account and states that I can upgrade to premium etc etc...

The main reasons that multiple accounts are bad (extra free games - abuse within the same games - etc) have never applied to me.

This is now the third time that I have climbed into the top 100 from 1000 points... and I really don't see how it is all that different from the first 2.

Somewhat annoyingly this has only come up because I have (unexpectedly, but very excitedly) found myself with a hat, but I understand that there are others in a similar situation (She-wolf / Rodger Dodger being the one I have read a few mentions of).

I hate that I am now being tainted in a similar way to others high on the scoreboard who have used dubious methods -but I guess I'll just have to live with it.

Ben
XXX

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:34 pm

benjikat is not a cheater and everybody that thinks so is just a moron.

he is one of the best players and most important one of the nicest persons on CC. congrats mate.

zero23 · Post by **zero23** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:38 pm

Congrats BENJIKAT IS DEAD. This guy will call friendly fire in on himself before he gives up in waterloo! A great strategist who will definitely bring an intimidating challenge with his game.

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:50 pm

this is your congratulatory thread - so i'm not gonna have a debate on it. i merely responded to the previous post. having multiple accounts is cheating-- if you don't think so then that's all that matters.

MOBAJOBG · Post by **MOBAJOBG** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:59 pm

^lol^. Take it Ez, Scott-Land.

BaldAdonis · Post by **BaldAdonis** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:06 pm

amazzony wrote:Nice, go get him BA

As soon as Bring it On! runs out of free maps...

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