Civil War Map

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:52 pm

close this. start new one.

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:56 pm

P Gizzle wrote:yeah, i dunno, there's just sooooo many rich and wonderful things about NA and such great history

well, i think we're gettign a large amount of NA maps because most risk players are from north america.

As far as the civil war map, the state boundaries are almost the same as they are now, so unless you use different boundaries, and use one and two way barriers liberally it is doomed to be like all the others.

as for the F and I war, i had no idea what you were talking about either (and i just took AP American History last year...) but i just realised it was the french and indian war, which was an outgrowth of, i believe, the seven years war. (history teachers in the US are a bit ethnocentric, so most ppl in the US feel the need to give it a different name to separate us from europe)

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:59 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:
P Gizzle wrote:yeah, i dunno, there's just sooooo many rich and wonderful things about NA and such great history
well, i think we're gettign a large amount of NA maps because most risk players are form north america.

As far as the civil war map, the state coundaries are the same as they are now, so unless you use different boundaries, and use one and two way barriers liberally it is doomed to be liek all the others.

as for the F and I war, i had no idea what you were talking about either (and i jsut took AP American History last year...) but i just realised it was the french and indian war, which i was an outgrowth of, i believe, the seven years war. (history teachers in the US are a bit ethnocentric)

history teachers arent too ethnocentric, most just love their country, that's why they're history teachers.

yes, i believe it is part of the 7 years war, but i believe there were conflicts between England and France in other places at the time as well

Knight of Orient · Post by **Knight of Orient** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:59 pm

im takin AP history right now, its awsome

weve decided to dump this idea and go to a different type though

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:01 pm

start it up Knight

ttocs · Post by **ttocs** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:04 pm

isn't that weird how wars are called different names and countries blamde the other for starting the war. (ex. US history books say that Britain made the first shot, and Britain history books say that the americans shot first according to the revolutionary war sections in many of both books.)

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:05 pm

ttocs wrote:isn't that weird how wars are called different names and countries blamde the other for starting the war. (ex. US history books say that Britain made the first shot, and Britain history books say that the americans shot first according to the revolutionary war sections in many of both books.)

well most historians believe the Brits shot first i think, either way it dont matter they both probably shot at the same time

Knight of Orient · Post by **Knight of Orient** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:08 pm

u gotta love history. i found out intwo months that all ive ever known about history has been a lie. l8r guys

ttocs · Post by **ttocs** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:08 pm

P Gizzle wrote:well most historians believe the Brits shot first i think, either way it dont matter they both probably shot at the same time

But american historians are mainly the ones who study the revolutionary war

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:09 pm

Knight, arent you makin a new thread? i love history too.

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:19 pm

Knight of Orient wrote:u gotta love history. i found out intwo months that all ive ever known about history has been a lie. l8r guys

that euphoria will definately go down once you start going into the root causes of all of our wars (businessmen's greed, banks' greed, and corporations' greed)

that and learning that the "1 less than half the documents" for DBQs has jsut shot up to a minimum of "1 less than the total number of documents" i strongly suggest taking AP Comparative Politics, which i'm taking right now. everyone says its a great course, and really exposes you to other countries and their political systems and customs

Knight of Orient · Post by **Knight of Orient** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:21 pm

i hate DBQs. my teacher does drill and kills, where we have 10 seconds to answer a question. if we dont know it, we lose a point out of the possible 3, and someone can steal that point.

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:55 pm

wow, thats pretty intense. I had, by far, the shittiest history teacher ever. He woudl ramble on about current events when we should have been doing things like talking about the transportation revolution and most people in my class got 4s and 5s

plus, AP's really aren't about recalling facts quickly, its more of an endurance race than a sprint. So the ten seconds to recall a fact is bullshit, coming from a person whose taken the course before.

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:58 pm

ttocs wrote:
P Gizzle wrote:well most historians believe the Brits shot first i think, either way it dont matter they both probably shot at the same time
But american historians are mainly the ones who study the revolutionary war

does it even matter?!? point is both fired, we won!!!!

U-S-A!!!

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:03 pm

P Gizzle wrote:
ttocs wrote:
P Gizzle wrote:well most historians believe the Brits shot first i think, either way it dont matter they both probably shot at the same time
But american historians are mainly the ones who study the revolutionary war

does it even matter?!? point is both fired, we won!!!!

U-S-A!!!

well if by "we" you mean the wealthy demi-aristocracy of america, then yes. If you mean the soldiers who acutally fought in the war, and were later forced out of their homes because they coulnd't repay loans, the no.

happysadfun · Post by **happysadfun** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:05 pm

cowshrptrn wrote: well if by "we" you mean the wealthy demi-aristocracy of america, then yes. If you mean the soldiers who acutally fought in the war, and were later forced out of their homes because they coulnd't repay loans, the no.

Hey! Watch your mouth there! At least I respect other countries!

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:06 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:
P Gizzle wrote:
ttocs wrote:
P Gizzle wrote:well most historians believe the Brits shot first i think, either way it dont matter they both probably shot at the same time
But american historians are mainly the ones who study the revolutionary war

does it even matter?!? point is both fired, we won!!!!

U-S-A!!!
well if by "we" you mean the wealthy demi-aristocracy of america, then yes. If you mean the soldiers who acutally fought in the war, and were later forced out of their homes because they coulnd't repay loans, the no.

i mean we as in the demi-aristocracy yes. it indeed does suck that the soldiers didnt get much money, but they sure did have fun killing the British at their own game

hitandrun · Post by **hitandrun** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:41 pm

happysadfun wrote:Hey! Watch your mouth there! At least I respect other countries!

You may, but your government's foreign policy doesn't!

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:58 pm

happysadfun wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote: well if by "we" you mean the wealthy demi-aristocracy of america, then yes. If you mean the soldiers who acutally fought in the war, and were later forced out of their homes because they coulnd't repay loans, the no.
Hey! Watch your mouth there! At least I respect other countries!

so do i, but i think thats a moot point in this case since i live in america.

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:29 pm

U-S-A!!!!!!!! im proud to be an American. and just because i am, doesnt mean im a Blind Nationalist

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Lets move this to the off-topic forum... Moderator!!!!!

happysadfun · Post by **happysadfun** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:02 am

cowshrptrn wrote:
happysadfun wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote: well if by "we" you mean the wealthy demi-aristocracy of america, then yes. If you mean the soldiers who acutally fought in the war, and were later forced out of their homes because they coulnd't repay loans, the no.
Hey! Watch your mouth there! At least I respect other countries!
so do i, but i think thats a moot point in this case since i live in america.

I thought that you didn't live in America. *is confused*

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:10 am

lol, i probably sound foreign on my views on america cus my history teachers have been pretty open to other political systems. If you teach AP American History or comparative government u're pretty much required to not like the way we run our political system.

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:24 pm

it's a good idea, and it's educational (U.S civil, English civil, Many many civils, WWI and II etc.)

Sikkram · Post by **Sikkram** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:31 am

I see alot of back and forth about map locations, Easy names, good borders, fair army bonuses, Etc.
The actual location is not always the case.. I love the Philippines map. Some of the territories are alittle hard though.
Anyway, Make it good and I don't care how many USA maps there are!