I think we've actually completed the argument. I mean, on one shore we have the atheists (Backglass, etc.) who profess a lack of belief. While on the other shore we have the theists (Jay_a2j, etc.) who profess the perfection and completeness of their God. The only problem here is the whole 'logic dictates' thing. Logic dictates either possibility depending on your perceptions and beliefs. If you believe strongly in God, you can use logic to prove His existence, much the same way I can prove that horses have nine legs.
No horse has five legs.
A horse has four more legs than no horse.
Therefore, horses have nine legs.
Sure, no one can prove it using actual physical evidence, but logic doesn't need any kind of evidence. It's all about the process with logic, not content.
The way I see it, it was all symbolic. Christ dying on the Cross is a symbol for ultimate self-sacrifice to save others. A lot of people would take a bullet for someone, but they probably wouldn't hang on a cross for hours upon hours with whip wounds and a crown of thorns shoved into their brow to save someone's life. If you believe in this ethereal 'sin' thing then more power to you, but be kind enough to leave the atheists where they are. If God has a plan for the world, then those few people who don't subscribe to your particular church's interpretation of events and are thus destined for hell must play their own part in that plan. It's blasphemy to go against the plan, so why do it?
And if you're wondering what part of the conflict I am between the atheists and the theists, I'm that guy who sitting on a big billboard watching the war happen down below me as I share tea with weird gods.
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