White kids and black kids.

[greenoaks]

Actually, a good argument in support of what I wrote! When you focus on race, revenge and blame... extremists are happy to leap in and take advantage.

The problems in Zimbabwe are due to a president who tried to overnight change the farming system without any real knowledge about it, robbed his people and suppresses violently any and all opposition ... like despots of all colors have always done.

The problems are not race, BUT the fact that he was allowed to rise to power and to successfully blame whites for the troubles of his country (at least initially) IS directly the result of the years and years of oppression -- so that someone was able to rise up, promise the moon and be heard. .. whether he actually made sense or not.

i was not trying to belittle the struggle women have had for equality but when compared to racism there just isn't the same level of violence involved.

sure you might miss out on a promotion, not get paid as much or be expected to hold down a full-time job while raising the children, doing all the housework and looking after your lazy good for nothing husband/boyfriend but you don't live in fear of being grabbed in the middle of the night and raped & killed because of your race or ethnicity like people all over the world do whether they are an afro-american in the US last century fearing whites, white zimbabwean & south african farmers now fearing blacks or an oramo/tigre living in close proximity to the other in ethiopia.

for some reason apartheid just seems to be more violent.

[PLAYER57832]

Actually, a good argument in support of what I wrote! When you focus on race, revenge and blame... extremists are happy to leap in and take advantage.

The problems in Zimbabwe are due to a president who tried to overnight change the farming system without any real knowledge about it, robbed his people and suppresses violently any and all opposition ... like despots of all colors have always done.

The problems are not race, BUT the fact that he was allowed to rise to power and to successfully blame whites for the troubles of his country (at least initially) IS directly the result of the years and years of oppression -- so that someone was able to rise up, promise the moon and be heard. .. whether he actually made sense or not.

i was not trying to belittle the struggle women have had for equality but when compared to racism there just isn't the same level of violence involved.

sure you might miss out on a promotion, not get paid as much or be expected to hold down a full-time job while raising the children, doing all the housework and looking after your lazy good for nothing husband/boyfriend but you don't live in fear of being grabbed in the middle of the night and raped & killed because of your race or ethnicity like people all over the world do whether they are an afro-american in the US last century fearing whites, white zimbabwean & south african farmers now fearing blacks or an oramo/tigre living in close proximity to the other in ethiopia.

for some reason apartheid just seems to be more violent.

Oh, I fully agree, but I thought you were trying to say that Zimbabwe was an example of why we should look to more revenge instead of tolerance .. if I misunderstood, sorry

Also, my "been there done that" comment was in reference to the rugby situation mentioned just prior, and losing teams ... not the entire political situation.

That said, when women first joined the New York fire department, they were threatened physically, seriously injured, raped and subjected to repeated death threats and attempts on their lives. Even the women who preceded me in the Forest Service had to endure a good deal outright physical harassment, so they might not be quite so different as you suppose.

[PLAYER57832]

I also might add that I was partially quoting Neitche (sp?), who as a denizen of the gErman concentration camps does have a reasonable comparison.

[jonesthecurl]

I also might add that I was partially quoting Neitche (sp?), who as a denizen of the gErman concentration camps does have a reasonable comparison.

Are you sure you know what a "denizen" is?
Nietsche was long dead by then

[wicked]

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[PLAYER57832]

I also might add that I was partially quoting Neitche (sp?), who as a denizen of the gErman concentration camps does have a reasonable comparison.

Are you sure you know what a "denizen" is?
Nietsche was long dead by then

then it is a different one.

The one I am referring to spoke of the freedom inside oneself where no one else can touch .. but this is starting to be a tangent. If I am wrong, feel free to pm me or begin a new thread.