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CommentsJust appears to have something going on what exactly he is guilty of is up for grabs could be Multi, Secret Alliance or just abusing the system.He is either setting up multies or intentionally fishing for points against people who are prime to deadbeat. there is a enormous number of games involved where he conveinently finds a single player game with a non premium new person and either just utterly devastates with very little resistance or the other player mysteriously deadbeats.
if you want a list of my multis, just ask. I have no problem handing them out. Not sure how I can have secret alliances in a 1 vs 1, but hey, im guilty as charged there too.
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whats your count on accusations now JR? It has to be a record for a non busted, and Ill bet quite a bit on a non cheater. Id give you my absolute full support, but after MOHonorless, I simply wont do that for anyone any more. Even when defending my dad if when he gets accused, I ask him first... .... ... does that make me a bad son?
I'm Spanking Monkey now....err...I mean I'm a Spanking Monkey now...that shoots milk Too much. I know.
AAFitz wrote:whats your count on accusations now JR? It has to be a record for a non busted, and Ill bet quite a bit on a non cheater. Id give you my absolute full support, but after MOHonorless, I simply wont do that for anyone any more. Even when defending my dad if when he gets accused, I ask him first... .... ... does that make me a bad son?
I was wrong 1 time and in that example, it was 2 players playing from the same IP. So I was accurate in saying it was a multi but they were cleared because the mods felt it was 2 different players using the same IP. I dont agree with it, but hey, they made the decision.
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Accusing a player of cheating is a serious deal. It's something that should be researched and looked at with great care before making an accusation.
I looked at the referenced games and there is absolutely no shred of proof that Johnny Rocket is cheating. It may be foolish to risk losing so many points to gain so few but it's not against the rules.
It's obvious that Soloman has an ax to grind and the fact that he made these accusations for personal reasons is a mockery of this forum. This should be in flame wars.
Instead of furthering your cause against Johnny Rocket, you made yourself appear vindictive and vengeful. Next time, think about what you are doing before you act.
cisco2001 wrote:Accusing a player of cheating is a serious deal. It's something that should be researched and looked at with great care before making an accusation.
I looked at the referenced games and there is absolutely no shred of proof that Johnny Rocket is cheating. It may be foolish to risk losing so many points to gain so few but it's not against the rules.
It's obvious that Soloman has an ax to grind and the fact that he made these accusations for personal reasons is a mockery of this forum. This should be in flame wars.
Instead of furthering your cause against Johnny Rocket, you made yourself appear vindictive and vengeful. Next time, think about what you are doing before you act.
Cisco2001
I busted him for cheating. Him and his brother set up 3 player games and join together and beat up on the 3rd player. than they battle it out for the points. So now he is responding with a thread of his own. This is only about the 10th time I been accused so honestly, its quite funny and shows how a cheater responds to being caught. Just let him go. its his thread and he do what he wants.
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cisco2001 wrote:Accusing a player of cheating is a serious deal. It's something that should be researched and looked at with great care before making an accusation.
I looked at the referenced games and there is absolutely no shred of proof that Johnny Rocket is cheating. It may be foolish to risk losing so many points to gain so few but it's not against the rules.
It's obvious that Soloman has an ax to grind and the fact that he made these accusations for personal reasons is a mockery of this forum. This should be in flame wars.
Instead of furthering your cause against Johnny Rocket, you made yourself appear vindictive and vengeful. Next time, think about what you are doing before you act.
Cisco2001
I don't think that suggesting that someone is a cheater is such a big deal. Normaly the mods are pretty lenient when they aren't sure if a rule has been broken.
lmao..JR.. ur on a roll..how did u piss in this guys corn flakes...this crap must get old after a while..
and so what if JR picks out noobs..damn..ive done it..who hasnt.. when u need some easy points where to teams and other go too....noobs... i look at it like shooting practice..u need to keep ur game up for the hard players..lol
i don't know why everyone's reacting so badly to this post, because this does look like cheating. he just 'happens' to join games with loads of new recruits who then deadbeat and give him the points? pretty lucky for him that none of these random new players don't even try and beat him..
the_lion: I am a computer programmer
firth4eva: So you earn a living posting in flame wars? Right.
There is a very specific pattern involved with this to be dismissive would be a gross error of negligence. I have seen many posts with far less evidence and in some cases evidence to the contrary that get support, makes me wonder if there is any collusion involved in the rapid defense of Mr. Rocket...
Soloman wrote:There is a very specific pattern involved with this to be dismissive would be a gross error of negligence. I have seen many posts with far less evidence and in some cases evidence to the contrary that get support, makes me wonder if there is any collusion involved in the rapid defense of Mr. Rocket...
lol....what defense? Let the mods run yet another check on me. I cant wait till they shove it back in your face. Please King A. run another check on me. Wicked? Lack ? Twill? somebody and why your at out, dont forget to clear me in all those 1 vs 1's where I had a secret alliance with the other player !!! lol !!! He cant even fill the damn form out right.
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The only evidence is that he played some singles games with newbs. How that equates to cheating is beyond me. However, if it's suspicious then you need to expand on it. You need to present a theory, establish a pattern and and explain how it was done. Otherwise, the only thing to draw a conclusion on are 4 games.
My point is, are players that have played 4 games with new players guilty of cheating? Or is JR the only one that would be guilty? For the record, I don't know JR. I have never chatted with him and I don't play games with him. I'm defending him as I would defend Soloman if he were accused in the same manner.
Here's the question again. Is JR the only player that is cheating by playing low ranked opponents in singles games?
Game# 516002 We've all played and continue to play opponents with lower ranks and higher ranks. It's part of the deal.
It's very clear that Johnny's acusation was retaliatory. The only reason it happened was because Johnny brought up an issue which may have been legit about risk master and solomon first. I haven't taken the time to look into it so I couldn't give my opinion as to whether or not they are guilty but what is clear is that Johnny is being accused not because he is a cheater, but because he accused them of cheating.
I have seen a pattern, there is more then 4 games if you do a search, where this pattern occurs. It has been pointed out we all have the right to cast accusations on suspicious activity regardless of level or lack of involvement.
So if you look and do not see the pattern I am not sure what to say and I am not stating that all of his games he is cheating in, just there is an unsual # of games where this suspious activty pattern occurs.
If he is just abusing the system and not cheating I will not apologize I called it as I saw it. SO hopefully he is not stacking points lost in real games against real opponents by using multiple accounts. I hope he does not have some type of secret clan that engages in this same activity and conspires with him.
If he is guilty and is just very adept at covering his tail I must admonish him of this activity if not well nothing wrong in examining closer and clearing him, I mean false accusations happen all the time with even less evidence...
I am not one for taking sides, but I have played against JR and a few of the names you have listed. I have also watched a few others. I watch people to get an idea of there playing style. It makes it easier to beat someone when you have an idea on what they are doing. Anyways to what I can see they do not hace the same playing style and the people you pointed out are weak players. I do not know about you, but I know JR has played more games than I have and well half the time I can't remember if I played someone or not before tell I am already in a game with them.
Pip Squeek wrote:I am not one for taking sides, but I have played against JR and a few of the names you have listed. I have also watched a few others. I watch people to get an idea of there playing style. It makes it easier to beat someone when you have an idea on what they are doing. Anyways to what I can see they do not hace the same playing style and the people you pointed out are weak players. I do not know about you, but I know JR has played more games than I have and well half the time I can't remember if I played someone or not before tell I am already in a game with them.
Again I can list many more games invoved just do a search of 2 player games with Mr. Rocket and see that there are an enormous number that false under the patter I described. I only listed a few to get investigation going...
You call that proof, I call most of them dead beat newbs. It is bound to happen a lot. I mean Look at me I probably have 5+ games from dead beats and I haven't played 200 games yet. I have looked threw his game list and I find nothing odd about what he is doing. I am basically doing the same thing except playing less triple games. Though looking threw your game history it is obvious why you are on my Foe list. You where added to my list long before this thread...
Pip Squeek wrote:You call that proof, I call most of them dead beat newbs. It is bound to happen a lot. I mean Look at me I probably have 5+ games from dead beats and I haven't played 200 games yet. I have looked threw his game list and I find nothing odd about what he is doing. I am basically doing the same thing except playing less triple games. Though looking threw your game history it is obvious why you are on my Foe list. You where added to my list long before this thread...
Interesting I have never played you to my recollection but hey if your part of his clique I understand you nazi's all stick together and see nothing wrong with each others actions...
