Kindergarten Mafia - Game over - Town wins!

[MountainLion]

Anyone care to comment? Hello?

[Skoffin]

Feeling a little lonely Mountain? I'll read up in a tick, trying to find a specific comment I thought suspiscious earlier. ¬_¬

[Skoffin]

I agree with Gaga and ML's line of reasoning. There would be atleast one or two scum on the will wagon, but I think we should also look at who *wasn't* on the wagons. Yeah, 'wtf' I know
It appears to be a common scum tactic, particularly amoungst 'unsure' players, to spread themselves out by when there appears to be a few bandwagons brewing or discussion between a few select candidates, they will pick one person to do the "I agree, they are likely scum" bit on, and the other they will state they believe they are more likely to appear town or something to this effect. This way when the innocent person dies they can claim they knew it was a bad lynch etc. Alternativle if this person they claim to believe to be innocent doesn't get lynch, they can simply kill them in the night to make them look somewhat less suspiscious.

One example of this is Sam, he has done little so far, appearing to go under the radar.
He was on the animo wagon, and on Wills. But he also defended AD, which seems a bit too coincidental that AD died. And he isn't one of the best players, so I believe he'd be the type to employ this lower risk strategy.
But I also think there is a rather good player on his side, that would have encouraged a AD kill.
So for the moment I suspect Kalish, though it may be a little paranoia

Also, Clive kept jumping about the place, but his behavious is really hard to pindown and find scumtells on. As he always seems scummy.

[Skoffin]

Whups

vote Sam

[Clive]

I'm suspicious of nagerous. AD called him on day 1 being a non-townie, which in a game like this would probably mean he's town power role or mafia. If mafia were smart they would kill nagerous knowing that animorph would have likely been protected, yet they didn't. Did mafia not catch that or think AD was somehow a better target? or is nagerous still alive because he's mafia? It's a tough call because we don't want another power role exposed for mafia to kill, but I think it's worth looking at.

I think this is good logic.

vote Nag

[mr. incrediball]

hmm... choices, choices...

Also I think it's worth a strong noting that mr.incrediball, kalish and militant did not believe william's claim.

tbh, i was really under the impression, when william claimed rich kid, that he would turn out to be an SK. rich kids are usually mean. it's a proven fact. TV says so. also, vanilla townie seemed MUCH too easy a claim. at the time. just saying.

I'd bet the mafia actually want me around, hoping I'll screw up.

i'm not sure where this came from. i know it sounds like a joke, but... what? either i'm just not seeing the funny side, or there's something wrong here: why do you think the mafia give a damn about you? if someone can quote a post that might have provoked this joke, such as "hey, if animo is town, why isn't he dead?" then i might understand. at the moment, though, something about this post doesn't feel right.


vote animo.

[ga7]

Hmm, so many suspects...

fos clive for just agreeing with everyone. Twice

Actually that's a very good point. I'm uncertain on where to stand with Firth at this point, but the fact he just FOSed Clive for this makes me think it doesn't matter and it's a viable lead. Clive did act with a "follow the crowd" mentality and post nothing of substance since the start...

Clive has voted as much as anyone, and with little input. I've only played with Clive once, maybe twice. Does he never say much?

It has been a while since I played with him as town, but then he was seeming more proactive and going against the flow sometimes for his convictions. As scum, well... Asylum is a recent example for that. Low-pro and taking it easy, I can see the similarities. Well, metagame ain't that good an argument, I'm more concerned about his bandwagonning and this kind of posts that seem to be his style in this game:

I think this is good logic.

vote Nag

Personally I find the Nag thing the most questionnable argument of your post ML. There's of course a point in noticing the non-death of a supposed NV townie, but the timing seems a bit... off. Besides it's not like AD's kill made no sense either. Come to think of it, from day 1...

Do NOT misbehave in this class, buddy. You be nice!

telltale, telltale!

unvote vote nark

DO I need to put you in the corner for a timeout? Or shall I just pull out the belt now?

oh, wait, you're not a kid

It seems AD was identified as the teacher right off the bat. It wouldn't be farfetched for scum to think he had a power role... A doc or vig would have fitted.
Juggling with more suspicions...

I'd bet the mafia actually want me around, hoping I'll screw up.

Scummy. Mafia would never want a cop around, a bad cop can at worst only find townies. It almost sounds like you're trying to justify yourself for being alive, kinda out of nowhere...

something about this post doesn't feel right.


vote animo.

More scummy. Voting the claimed cop right now doesn't make any sense regardless of his nonsense, as if he's in fact not a cop he will be discovered easily eventually anyway, as I highly doubt there would be several cops with varying sanity etc in this. Half-assed evidence won't do.

One example of this is Sam, he has done little so far, appearing to go under the radar.
He was on the animo wagon, and on Wills. But he also defended AD, which seems a bit too coincidental that AD died. And he isn't one of the best players, so I believe he'd be the type to employ this lower risk strategy.
But I also think there is a rather good player on his side, that would have encouraged a AD kill.
So for the moment I suspect Kalish, though it may be a little paranoia

I was suspicious of Sam on day 1 for randomly defending AD, so yes his profile could fit scum too. I find it a wee bit obvious strategy but I doubt it could have been a motive for AD's death as said above. As for Kalish, well I think he's scum but I only got metagaming to prove it there...

In summary, the mafia team is Clive, MIB, Sam and Kalish. In the nap room. With a freaking pillow

SFOS MIB
Unvote Vote Clive

[sam_levi_11]

i defended AD cos i didnt think he was scum, he is a good player and so can hunt out the scum and he is fun to have around.

[mr. incrediball]

animo is a claimed cop?


dang, i should stop skimming. also, now his joke sorta makes sense.

unvote.

[militant]

animo is a claimed cop?


dang, i should stop skimming. also, now his joke sorta makes sense.

unvote.

Fos MIB

You just went back on everything you said in your previous post, I can understand you would admit that you were skimming and didnt know he was a claimed cop, but how does his joke now make sense? I think the term is backtracking but I could be wrong

[kalishnikov]

animo is a claimed cop?


dang, i should stop skimming. also, now his joke sorta makes sense.

unvote.

Unvote, vote: Mr. I whether it was a joke or not.


And I stayed on the Will lynch assuming the line of reasoning with Will being a rich kid/SK or something was a good one and the fact that Will was kinda acting pretty scummy.

The Animo wagon was based on passed gaming experiences from the players who put votes on him in those one or two pages, it was a vote based on metagaming almost entirely.

I haven't said much because I just don't have much, I could point out shoe-string leads and reach for things all day but you guys are doing a nice job of that already, lol.

[mr. incrediball]

animo is a claimed cop?


dang, i should stop skimming. also, now his joke sorta makes sense.

unvote.

Fos MIB

You just went back on everything you said in your previous post, I can understand you would admit that you were skimming and didnt know he was a claimed cop, but how does his joke now make sense? I think the term is backtracking but I could be wrong

it now vaguely makes sense because he was a cop. if i was a cop, i could see myself being surprised when i don't die.

[MountainLion]

I like how this day is going, a lot better than day 1.

Vote Clive because all you've seemed to do in this game is wagon with little say other than "I agree."

FOS mr.incrediball for skimming really badly on animorph.

FOS militant for using an FOS on mr.incrediball and nothing on Clive because you may be scum buddies with Clive trying to put the suspicion towards mr.incrediball without putting yourself out there with a vote. Why not vote him?

Where is nagerous?

[Sierra_Leon]

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Vote count

Clive - 2 (ga7, MountainLion)
firth4eva - 1 (animorpherv1)
sam_levi_11 - 1 (Skoffin)
nagerous - 1 (Clive)
mr. incrediball - 1 (kalishnikov)

Not voting: lord voldemort, nagerous, firth4eva, militant, sam_levi_11, mr. incrediball

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

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[militant]

[quote="MountainLion"
FOS militant for using an FOS on mr.incrediball and nothing on Clive because you may be scum buddies with Clive trying to put the suspicion towards mr.incrediball without putting yourself out there with a vote. Why not vote him?
[/quote]

It had already been mentioned, All I would of said is Fos Clivefor generally agreeing with everyone else.
What is the point when everybody else has already said it, and I quoted MIB and fos'ed him but didnt read back through the previous pages to see what else happened to include in my post.

[sam_levi_11]

its true that he agrees with everyone this game so FOS clive

[firth4eva]

Where is nagerous?

Lol. I'm sure he'll tell you where he's been when he comes. If he remembers.

[animorpherv1]

Just read what Skoffin said, and agree on it, Skoff made some very valid points.

unvote vote: Sam

[MountainLion]

Just read what Skoffin said, and agree on it, Skoff made some very valid points.

unvote vote: Sam

That was ga7. Look at the username instead of the avatar because they have the same pic of a duck.

[animorpherv1]

My mistake, mistook ga7 for Skoffin.

Anyways, I accept that Mr.I was skimming, I'm not gonna vote him based on that one fact.

[Skoffin]

Just read what Skoffin said, and agree on it, Skoff made some very valid points.

unvote vote: Sam

That was ga7. Look at the username instead of the avatar because they have the same pic of a duck.

Erm, well, I think I said more about Sam then Ga7 did. :\ You sure you didn't get our 'ducks' mixed up? And those are geese by the way.

Well for the moment I support the lynching of either Clive, kalish or Sam. Since Clive seems to be the direction this evening Vote Clive

[Clive]

Ok i'd better claim then, my looking completely useless hasn't gone completely as planned.

I'm the real cop.

I checked Lovo last night and I got an innocent.

unvote vote animorph

[Clive]

I'm thinking scum probably have safeclaims, and animo stole the best one...

[Clive]

"Kid who watched kindergarten cop" is my full rolename, for reference. And yeh it's in blue.

[firth4eva]

Why didn't you counterclaim at the time? If you really are town.