Save America (a manifesto)

[Nobunaga]

... Got this from Michael Savage's site. How to fix the United States.

... He should run for President.

The Savage Manifesto

Domestic

A. Cut Federal Income Taxes by 2 percent per year over four years, for a
minimum total of 8 percent over four years.

B. Reduce Federal Government Departments in size by 4 percent each year,
for
a total reduction of size by 16 percent over four years.

C. Eliminate all public assistance for able-bodied recipients. Cut off all
public assistance for immigrants for five years. Repatriate those who are
not working, after two years.

D. Immediately impose tariffs on cars and trucks owned by foreign entities,
even if they’re manufactured in America.

E. Cause illegal aliens to build a wall between the United States and
Mexico, and then, repatriate them. Pay them a one-time worker fee.

F. Increase pay for active duty combat troops by 10 percent. Number Two.
Fire any unmarried military person becoming pregnant while on active duty.
”

G. Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother
is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors. Require Norplant
for all women on welfare of childbearing age.

H. Close all houses of sex and massage.

I. Expand the DEA, while decriminalizing most drugs.

J. Regarding the media; one, eliminate all foreign ownership of any
American
media entity. Two, break up overly large conglomerates, like News
Corporation.

K. Encourage child bearing among tax paying citizens. Create a marriage
incentive, through lower taxes for married heterosexual couples. And a
government subsidy for each child conceived and carried to birth. Increase
the subsidies for each year the couple remains married.

L. Repatriate all illegal immigrants now incarcerated. Encourage all other
illegals to self-repatriate through double taxation on wages and fines on
employers.”

International

A. Iraq. Send in Iraqi troops to mop up pockets of resistance. Make Iraq
pay
with their oil for the cost of the war. Cordon off Sadr City, force all
residents to leave, then go in and mop up all resistance fighters. Divide
Iraq into three to four sectors; Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, and International.
Next, remove all U.S. troops after above achieved.

B. Iran. One, sanctions embargoes and mine their harbors. Nothing goes in,
nothing comes out.

C. North Korea. Destroy their launching platforms, impose a Naval blockade
on all goods coming in or out, except food.

D. Israel Arab Entities. Give Israel four years to become self-sufficient.
Cut off all foreign aid to all nations.

E. China. 20 percent tariffs on all China made goods immediately; rising by
5 percent each year for each year China refuses to revalue their currency.

F. United Nations. Withdraw immediately. Remove all Diplomats and staff.
Convert the United Nations building into housing for the working poor.

G. Mexico. Force Mexico to pay one barrel of oil for every illegal alien in
the United States of America per month.

[MeDeFe]

A might be an idea, B isn't bad, I agree with the second half of I because I don't know what the DEA is, but the rest is a load of bullshit.

[got tonkaed]

although this deserves acknowledgment for the simple fact that the policy measures are consistent, coherent, and have an aim and ways to achieve said aims in mind, i still cant bring myself to believe in the premises.

In the context of a globalizing world in which reworking of the social contract is probably required, taking your ball and going home is not a very well thought out way to approach such a negotiating table, and that is more or less what the policy measures add up to.

[suggs]

Pure, unmitigated BALLS.

[jonesthecurl]

brain-dead knee-jerk bullshit.

[tzor]

No, absolutely no, a whole lot of "no" (an I'm a conservative; go figure).

[btownmeggy]

although this deserves acknowledgment for the simple fact that the policy measures are consistent, coherent, and have an aim and ways to achieve said aims in mind, i still cant bring myself to believe in the premises.

In the context of a globalizing world in which reworking of the social contract is probably required, taking your ball and going home is not a very well thought out way to approach such a negotiating table, and that is more or less what the policy measures add up to.

GT... mi amor... it drives me crazy how in threads like this, in order to, I dunno, "start a meaningful dialogue", you lend even the tiniest bit of credence to xenophobic, patriarchal, regressive, hateful blather.

[PLAYER57832]

Unfortunately, a lot of people think this way -- particularly since Fox media came about (go figure ... you create a station dedicated to preaching conservative values and people watching that station strangely get more conservative .. so much for media "objectivity").

I will just pick up on one point:

Illegal immigration is different from other crimes.  Why?   The real truth is that if we were in a position of either watching our kids go hungry, have few opportunities or simply jumping a fence to get them food, education ...etc. Most of us would do so.    Unlike any other crime, when we condemn illegal aliens, we condemn people who are acting as we would in their position.

And, here is the interesting thing.  We "condemn" all these illegal aliens for "taking"  "our" jobs ... yet who are the first to go out and buy the cheaper products.   How many born Americans, not of immigrant parents, do you see lining up to hoe the weeds or pick crops or get up at 2 in the morning to milk cows for a wage that is about half what most janitors make?

There are over 10,000,000 illegal aliens WORKING in this country.  It is nice to say that the unemployed could have those jobs.  In a few cases, it might even be true.  However, I can tell you from personnal experience that it ain't necessarily true.  I grew up in farm country.   My father was not an illegal alien, he was and is a citizen.   However, he worked beside folks who were illegal.   His boss did not wish to hire them.  Whenever a citizen came to apply or look for work, he hired them.  The average stay?   Two days!   My father worked a split shift.  He got up at 1 AM, came home around 7, took a nap, then up again at noon, to be home at about 5.  SIX days, not 5 a week!  He worked alternate holidays, including Christmas and Thanksgiving.    And his income was just barely high enough that we did not qualify for subsidized school lunches. 
   I understand that illegal workers are now found in many, many trades and that they have begun to take jobs, such as in construction, that others might actually want ... though for higher pay.

BUT, who's crime is it?  Is it the fault of the worker who just wants a job... who is WILLING to work for a lower wage, or is it the fault of the employer who won't pay enough so that his workers can feed themselves and their families, buy houses and have decent medical care.

[tzor]

Someone mentioned "meaningful dialogue" I suppose in the name of meaningful dialogie this deserves a point by point response:

The Savage Manifesto

Domestic

A. Cut Federal Income Taxes by 2 percent per year over four years, for a
minimum total of 8 percent over four years.

Personally I think this is too little. But I've long ago abandoned the notion of "tax" regulation. The issue is spending, it always has been. This is true for the Fedeal government because it has the power to print money.

B. Reduce Federal Government Departments in size by 4 percent each year,
for a total reduction of size by 16 percent over four years.

Once again we get to spending. Not all government spending is bad. Not all spending is ineffective. Global reductions only serve to hurt those agencies that actually do give value for the money. The goal should be by priority and performance to spend wisely.

C. Eliminate all public assistance for able-bodied recipients. Cut off all
public assistance for immigrants for five years. Repatriate those who are
not working, after two years.

I have to assume that this is simply worded wrong. After all disaster relief is a "public assistance," so are you going to say if you can work the fact that a disaster just destroyed your house, your current occupation, and your entire community, "though luck get another job?"

D. Immediately impose tariffs on cars and trucks owned by foreign entities,
even if they’re manufactured in America.

I want him to personally tell every American worker in the United States who gets laid off because his CEO isn't American that his unemployment is good for the country. Yes I'm sure that he would be proud to be laid off in order to help some damn foreigner because that foreigner's CEO is American. Complete bullshit.

E. Cause illegal aliens to build a wall between the United States and
Mexico, and then, repatriate them. Pay them a one-time worker fee.

"Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" Ronald Reagan.

F. Increase pay for active duty combat troops by 10 percent. Number Two.
Fire any unmarried military person becoming pregnant while on active duty.

F1 sounds good. F2 is bullshit unless you fire any married military person who either becomes pregnant or causes someone else to become pregnant. What's good for the gander should be good for the goose. In any event this is bulshit. Our armed forces are supposed to be protecting this nation not act like a bunch of moral boy scouts.

G. Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother
is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors. Require Norplant
for all women on welfare of childbearing age.

This was almost fine until we get into the blatent eugenics. As it is it's crap.

H. Close all houses of sex and massage.

I swear when I see this I almost start getting Ron Paul feelings.

And tongue in cheek, I strongly stand for life, liberty, and the 15 minute massage person at the local airport terminal.

I. Expand the DEA, while decriminalizing most drugs.

Wait a minute, doesn't this violate B?

J. Regarding the media; one, eliminate all foreign ownership of any
American media entity. Two, break up overly large conglomerates, like News
Corporation.

Foreign ownership of an "American" entity. What's next American ownership of a foeign entity? Someone call out the oxymoron squad on this one.

K. Encourage child bearing among tax paying citizens. Create a marriage
incentive, through lower taxes for married heterosexual couples. And a
government subsidy for each child conceived and carried to birth. Increase
the subsidies for each year the couple remains married.

The guy who have us G gives us K? Eugenics to the max. Looking at the baptisms in my community I don't think we need to encourage more babies.

L. Repatriate all illegal immigrants now incarcerated. Encourage all other
illegals to self-repatriate through double taxation on wages and fines on
employers.

Double taxation? They are already earning minimum wage which is far above what they would make at home. I don't think that's going to discourage them at all.

I'll comment on the international stuff in another post.

[btownmeggy]

I. Expand the DEA, while decriminalizing most drugs.

Wait a minute, doesn't this violate B?

Ahahahaha.

[Napoleon Ier]

Doesn't go far enough.

[Nobunaga]

although this deserves acknowledgment for the simple fact that the policy measures are consistent, coherent, and have an aim and ways to achieve said aims in mind, i still cant bring myself to believe in the premises.

In the context of a globalizing world in which reworking of the social contract is probably required, taking your ball and going home is not a very well thought out way to approach such a negotiating table, and that is more or less what the policy measures add up to.

GT... mi amor... it drives me crazy how in threads like this, in order to, I dunno, "start a meaningful dialogue", you lend even the tiniest bit of credence to xenophobic, patriarchal, regressive, hateful blather.

... Where precisely is the hateful bit in this?

...

[Napoleon Ier]

It's racialist against the lazy people. You're a conservative right-wing bigot! Quick btown, clobber him with the annotated seventh updated edition of Das Kapital with expanded introduction by Bill Maher before before he gets away!

[tzor]

Time to take on the International points


International

A. Iraq. Send in Iraqi troops to mop up pockets of resistance. Make Iraq
pay with their oil for the cost of the war. Cordon off Sadr City, force all
residents to leave, then go in and mop up all resistance fighters. Divide
Iraq into three to four sectors; Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, and International.
Next, remove all U.S. troops after above achieved.

I've finally figured out Iraq. The problem with sending in Iraqi troops to mop up resistance is that thier officer corps suck. A bunch of idiots who got their positions because of who they know, who have no clue on how to command a large group of men but refuse to learn except when they get their butts handed to them by the enemy. Fire them all and get some real people who know how to command. I mean there's got to be a real army somewhere out in the Middle East right? (aside from ourselves)

B. Iran. One, sanctions embargoes and mine their harbors. Nothing goes in,
nothing comes out.

Sanctions never work. Look at our success with Cuba. (NOT)

C. North Korea. Destroy their launching platforms, impose a Naval blockade
on all goods coming in or out, except food.

N Korea's biggest threat is not any launching pads but a plethora of starving midgets (due to malnutrition) on the N/S border.

D. Israel Arab Entities. Give Israel four years to become self-sufficient.
Cut off all foreign aid to all nations.

How to eliminate whatever foreign influence we may still have ...

E. China. 20 percent tariffs on all China made goods immediately; rising by
5 percent each year for each year China refuses to revalue their currency.

The real answer: DO NOTHING. I'm serious on this. Labor movements are already pushing China out of the realm of cheep products. The price of goods from China will increase 20% from just the wage presures in China alone over the next few years.

F. United Nations. Withdraw immediately. Remove all Diplomats and staff.
Convert the United Nations building into housing for the working poor.

Yes I know the UN sucks. But we have the VETO power. We use it to flip the bird at Russia and vice versa. Trust me, the current location makes for a bad housing development.

(Besides ... bad UN joke comming ... isn't France run by a conservative now?)

G. Mexico. Force Mexico to pay one barrel of oil for every illegal alien in
the United States of America per month.

News fash: If Mexico could actually pay for every illegal alien then their economy would be such that there would be no need for them in the first place.

[nmhunate]

They will pay into social security, but will not collect UNLESS THEY BECOME FULL CITIZENS. If they become full citizens, then of course they should recieve what they ahve worked for, just like any other citizen.

The problem with this is that we already pay social security benefits to non-citizens... there are many resident aliens in this country that have paid into SS and when they retire they now receive their Retirement benefits.

[spurgistan]

My biggest problem is how you're going to cut spending (which, presumably also includes military spending, as that's where way too much of our money goes) while increasing belligerence against four (4!!) countries.

Never mind that if we screw with China economically, our dollar can go away in a flash.

That said, I like the first part of F and the second part of J.

[khazalid]

suggs puts it succinctly enough:

Pure, unmitigated BALLS.

[Napoleon Ier]

suggs puts it succinctly enough:

Pure, unmitigated BALLS.

Yes, I suppose the welfare-ist lemon-tea drinking types would much rather keep printing reams and reams of money to keep paying Abdul so he can continue to preach his albophobic, anti-British, anti-libertarian message...because this of course will cause no economic ro cultural damage whatsoever, will it, only unify us through diversity and tolerance and anyone who says it won't is an evil nasty racist.

[suggs]

although this deserves acknowledgment for the simple fact that the policy measures are consistent, coherent, and have an aim and ways to achieve said aims in mind, i still cant bring myself to believe in the premises.

In the context of a globalizing world in which reworking of the social contract is probably required, taking your ball and going home is not a very well thought out way to approach such a negotiating table, and that is more or less what the policy measures add up to.

GT... mi amor... it drives me crazy how in threads like this, in order to, I dunno, "start a meaningful dialogue", you lend even the tiniest bit of credence to xenophobic, patriarchal, regressive, hateful blather.

I often seem to ending up disagreeing with Megs, but BRAVO.

[Napoleon Ier]

although this deserves acknowledgment for the simple fact that the policy measures are consistent, coherent, and have an aim and ways to achieve said aims in mind, i still cant bring myself to believe in the premises.

In the context of a globalizing world in which reworking of the social contract is probably required, taking your ball and going home is not a very well thought out way to approach such a negotiating table, and that is more or less what the policy measures add up to.

GT... mi amor... it drives me crazy how in threads like this, in order to, I dunno, "start a meaningful dialogue", you lend even the tiniest bit of credence to xenophobic, patriarchal, regressive, hateful blather.

I often seem to ending up disagreeing with Megs, but BRAVO.

Oooooh yays for meggy, she's gone and recited all that long list of nasty long words we use to describe people who we disagree with when we can't be arsed to present a proper argument.

[suggs]

suggs puts it succinctly enough:

Pure, unmitigated BALLS.

Yes, I suppose the welfare-ist lemon-tea drinking types would much rather keep printing reams and reams of money to keep paying Abdul so he can continue to preach his albophobic, anti-British, anti-libertarian message...because this of course will cause no economic ro cultural damage whatsoever, will it, only unify us through diversity and tolerance and anyone who says it won't is an evil nasty racist.

You need to write in shorter sentences. They have more punch. They keep the reader interested. They build rhythm (can you hear the Rocky Sound Track building up, Nap?).
You then perhaps insert your most complex, caveat ridden point, because by now the reader, has, hopefully some faith in the author reaching his point.
Then the knock out blow:
Nap, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Professor Suggs will now retire to his Lemon tea and choir boys.

[btownmeggy]

Oooooh yays for meggy, she's gone and recited all that long list of nasty long words we use to describe people who we disagree with when we can't be arsed to present a proper argument.

You NEVER do this.

[Napoleon Ier]

suggs puts it succinctly enough:

Pure, unmitigated BALLS.

Yes, I suppose the welfare-ist lemon-tea drinking types would much rather keep printing reams and reams of money to keep paying Abdul so he can continue to preach his albophobic, anti-British, anti-libertarian message...because this of course will cause no economic ro cultural damage whatsoever, will it, only unify us through diversity and tolerance and anyone who says it won't is an evil nasty racist.

You need to write in shorter sentences. They have more punch. They keep the reader interested. They build rhythm (can you hear the Rocky Sound Track building up, Nap?).
You then perhaps insert your most complex, caveat ridden point, because by now the reader, has, hopefully some faith in the author reaching his point.
Then the knock out blow:
Nap, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Professor Suggs will now retire to his Lemon tea and choir boys.

Immigrant demands money. Government prints it. Money has no intrinsic worth, so govt. can just print it. The Immigrant 'A' (Abdul, shall we call him?) preaches 'kill the native infidel' at his mosque. Which was built by the government. By printing money. Making the money in your pocket worth less. Meaning, in your case for example, it's harder for you to indulge in your thai ladyboy fetish. Which you have because of a gender-confusion caused by a combination of psychological castrating by feminists and by nanny-state mollycoddling, but I digress.

So Abdul is causing cultural damage to your country and mine. And he'spaid by our governments to do so.

The solution?



Capisce?

[suggs]

mmmmmmmmm thai lady boys.....
back in 7 mins.

[Napoleon Ier]

Oooooh yays for meggy, she's gone and recited all that long list of nasty long words we use to describe people who we disagree with when we can't be arsed to present a proper argument.

You NEVER do this.

Alright, at least by-and-large mine are my own material (or Jeremy Clarkson and Nrse's occasionly, but w/e), you're just a parrot repeating what socialist academia and leftist news outlets regurgitate to you.

Besides...xenophobia, patriarchal hierarchies, a bit of healthy, viril expression of anger through hatred of oppressive authorities...what could be healthier?