Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 5!

[mr. incrediball]

very nice selin, i also got a clear onvestigation on day 1, if you'll remember. i got skoff as a believer.

[Minister Masket]

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

I find it odd that you choose to deny this now, instead of about a week ago when me and cena confirmed you as one.

[Selin]

very nice selin, i also got a clear onvestigation on day 1, if you'll remember. i got skoff as a believer.

Sorry that I missed you, it was a long post and took me some time to bring all quotes together. Could you just answer, if you got the role of skoffin also? Just say yes or no, don't post his role.

.

[Selin]

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

Years pass fast and my memory may not be as good as 35 years ago, but Briar-Rose was a princess as far as I can remember.

.

[Selin]

I reckon MM did investigate but he got town, and didnt like the results so made something up.

Nope. I got "black feather", that's it. I still think it's connected to the Seven Ravens story.

I doubt that there is any cross-over in the stories as I even have the name the Counts son. I think this is made up complaetely, my vote stays.

Not sure how you claiming disproves my theory. I disagree, I think he has intercrossed some stories for the game's benefit.
Also, every popular character from the tales are gathered in one place, so naturally there's going to be intercrossing.

Why did you claim anyway?

MM, have you read /'s post and link about pmc? You are skimming a lot.

.

[/]

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

Years pass fast and my memory may not be as good as 35 years ago, but Briar-Rose was a princess as far as I can remember.

.

heh, no clue what your talking about. I'm not sure what story my role's from, but it sure ain't sleeping beauty.

[/]

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

I find it odd that you choose to deny this now, instead of about a week ago when me and cena confirmed you as one.

eh, sorry I thought it would be best if everyone thought I was a good target last night phase, part of my "waste scums time" strategy.

[pmchugh]

I reckon MM did investigate but he got town, and didnt like the results so made something up.

Nope. I got "black feather", that's it. I still think it's connected to the Seven Ravens story.

I doubt that there is any cross-over in the stories as I even have the name the Counts son. I think this is made up complaetely, my vote stays.

Not sure how you claiming disproves my theory. I disagree, I think he has intercrossed some stories for the game's benefit.
Also, every popular character from the tales are gathered in one place, so naturally there's going to be intercrossing.

Why did you claim anyway?

Claim? I already had and you all knew the story to be correct, what did I have to lose by adding that I was the counts son? It was pretty obvious once you read the story.

Personally I think tal might have given the black feather as punishment for forgetting my PR, that reminds me tweet tweet, I see no other reason unless when I unlock my role it has something to do with the Ravens but I highly doubt it. Either of them or its completely random.

[FloresDelMal]

FINAL CONCLUSION:

MM got a very clear result on Day 1 and posted accordingly the truth. He couldn't have foreseen that the results will get unclearer day by day. That is a clear indication for me that MM posted the correct result (whatever he got from Talapus) also on Day 2. That gives me no %100 answer if he is a believer or not, however makes me believe that MM is most probably a believer.




We know from Droz that he gave another Flavor Investigation to a fourth person on day 1.
Droz, it's time now to tell us who he was.
Although you clearly stated that you will reveal his identity, we have never heard about him up to now. So either he is submarining or not reading the thread at all. Knowing his identity may give us further clues.

Unvote MM i dont see flaws in this logic.

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

Droz is the sleeping beauty aka briar rose, but i find fishy that / mislead us letting us beliave all this time that him was a princess (even thought we didnt knew which one) FOS /

[jnd94]

*mumble mumble* The investigations yesterday were described to me as "one-shot flavor investigations" so why they gave off such solid results is beyond me, I was told that they would give one bit of information about the player. The reason the investigations could be different today is because it is coming from someone/something else, or it is all made up. I am still upset that kalish isnt coming back as he had said he was on to something before he went away.

Flavor Investigation gives an article of the investigated person as a clue to that persons identity.


Now first post of cena about his investigation:

Sigh Bastards a believer unvote
Ill explain
I got a gift of an invesigation from the princess. I used it straight away on / and he's a believer.
Now / I have cleared you I want you to talk. Why wouldn't you talk?? Are you infact the princess

Cena stated that he got a clear result .


Now comes second result of MM.

cena speaks the truth, / is in fact a princess. I got a "gift" from another princess - a one-shot day investigation result thingy.
....

MM stated he got a clear result. He even knew / is a princess and later we learned also that cena knew it too.


Now comes third result of AD.

She gave one shot abilities to 11 people...and I think the princess is going to die... I think

And hence her lynch would be pointless, even though she is confirmed...
This would also indicate that we know we can now trust Cena and MM...

Only if it's certain that / is the princess.
We only think that because Cena and MM say so... we need to avoid circular logic.

Well, I used one of the one shots too... And I used it on Cena... He's a Believer, so I trust him.
Didn't tell me his role though.

AD didn't get the role of cena, but he stated cena is believer, i.e. a half clear result.


2. day investigations. We start with MM.

....
Anyway I have it now, although it's slightly different from last time. Apparently it's an investiagtion that gives out clues instead of alliances.
A Black Feather
This ringing any bells with anyone?

MM got an unclear result, just a clue.


And than comes LSU.

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

Also LSU got an unclear result, just a clue.



FINAL CONCLUSION:

MM got a very clear result on Day 1 and posted accordingly the truth. He couldn't have foreseen that the results will get unclearer day by day. That is a clear indication for me that MM posted the correct result (whatever he got from Talapus) also on Day 2. That gives me no %100 answer if he is a believer or not, however makes me believe that MM is most probably a believer.




We know from Droz that he gave another Flavor Investigation to a fourth person on day 1.
Droz, it's time now to tell us who he was.
Although you clearly stated that you will reveal his identity, we have never heard about him up to now. So either he is submarining or not reading the thread at all. Knowing his identity may give us further clues.

.

Hrm, that makes some sense. Unvote MM Selin comes in again with the flawless logic.

[/]

what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)

Droz is the sleeping beauty aka briar rose, but i find fishy that / mislead us letting us beliave all this time that him was a princess (even thought we didnt knew which one) FOS /[/quote]
I already told you all, I didn't feel like confirming or denying anything on day one, you all jumped to your own conclusions and not a single one of you were right about anything except me being a believer, that's all that's important for now in my opinion.
also everyone who is saying that selins logic is flawless, I already said, I'm definitely not a princess at the moment, I honestly have no clues as of yet what story my role is from, so it vaguely possible that I'll be one sometime, but who knows? (I doubt it would be in a result anyways) I still think it sounded like a blind guess.

[DRoZ]

*zzzzz* actually there were a total of 6 of the 11 that got the investigation blessing, I only named 4 on day one because the other two were incapacitated, which is why I said only 4, in order to keep the others from getting killed on by any night killers. Now that lsu came back and said his investigation but it seems as though it was fruitless, at least in finding any mafia. The other was kalish, who is gone now and has been replaced, which ruined that, so I am unsure if he used the investigation before or if his replacement recieved it, but since he hasnt posted and I gave him a while to get up to speed, I suppose I will ask...
So spurgistan, can you help with any of this?

[MountainLion]

spurgistan and ace1217 need to catch up and say something!

Iliad hasn't said a single word for 100 pages.

Ok, now that all those are out of the way, it’s time to explain a few things. First off, BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ALL YOUR NIGHT/DAY ACTIONS!!! I did not take numerous characters out of 2 or 3 stories for this game. I took them out of several. Therefore, while a few of you may know who else is on your side, NO ONE knows everyone else in their faction. Just because someone acts funny or scummy does not mean you should be hasty and do away with them or aide them. A wrong kill here or there or ability given to the wrong person could SERIOUSLY tip the odds of winning to someone else. Also, many of you will progress through your own fairy tale while this game takes place. Therefore your roles may “evolve” or cross paths with others in the game. So be mindful of all choices you make.

When I look at what Talapus says here, I think we need to be extra careful. What I mean is I think the way this game appears to be formatted, it makes it incredibly easy for scum to act and/or look town. Why? Because they can try to find scum and kill them with their bare hands just like anyone else because they don't know who's a believer and who's a non-believer. They don't even know themselves. Look what happened on night 1....lovo was killed. There may be masons, groups of 8 or 25, but for the most part it seems some scum don't know other scum, just like town don't know other town.

I'm not sure what I think of MM now. Hopefully DroZ can give us some info soon that may help us in a completely different direction.

[MountainLion]

fastposted by DroZ, but I didn't feel like changing my post.

[spurgistan]

~~HACK~~ just checking to say - WHEEZE - that I'm reading through and should have a - COUGH - nice post by tonight. Or I might do work. But I doubt it.

[DRoZ]

cena speaks the truth, / is in fact a princess. I got a "gift" from another princess - a one-shot day investigation result thingy.
/ isn't the only princess out there.

So then, who was most pushing for /'s lynch?

This is the quote that "confirms" / as a princess... Now this was what got the bandwagon off of / and he never stated that he was a princess, but more importantly he never said he wasnt until now... Soon after all of this AD comes in and says he used his investigation on cena and came back a believer. This is what completed the AD, /, cena believer status, but striked me as strange then and even more so now. They all also stated that they were clear-cut investigations, as both came up as believers, but now LSU says his investigation was a bit more vague. Also I remember reading through another mafia game on here and AD came across as the super townie type, one of the more vocal people, he started off this one the same way and now I havent heard from him much in a while...

It saddens me that none of the investigations I gave out found any mafia, it also makes me think that a lot more mafia got my investigation blessings than not. Either way I just don't trust AD right now and I think he may have just tagged along on the other investigations from earlier. So Vote AD

[walelia2]

Unvote MM

[DRoZ]

cena speaks the truth, / is in fact a princess. I got a "gift" from another princess - a one-shot day investigation result thingy.
/ isn't the only princess out there.

So then, who was most pushing for /'s lynch?

This is the quote that "confirms" / as a princess... Now this was what got the bandwagon off of / and he never stated that he was a princess, but more importantly he never said he wasnt until now... Soon after all of this AD comes in and says he used his investigation on cena and came back a believer. This is what completed the AD, /, cena believer status, but striked me as strange then and even more so now. They all also stated that they were clear-cut investigations, as both came up as believers, but now LSU says his investigation was a bit more vague. Also I remember reading through another mafia game on here and AD came across as the super townie type, one of the more vocal people, he started off this one the same way and now I havent heard from him much in a while...

It saddens me that none of the investigations I gave out found any mafia, it also makes me think that a lot more mafia got my investigation blessings than not. Either way I just don't trust AD right now and I think he may have just tagged along on the other investigations from earlier. So Vote AD

oops meant to say *zzzzz*, *mumble*, etc etc...

[walelia2]

Unvote MM

EBWOP

*cough*

[DRoZ]

*zzzzz* ok do the people who are getting sick, know why they are getting sick?

[Fircoal]

*mumble mumble* The investigations yesterday were described to me as "one-shot flavor investigations" so why they gave off such solid results is beyond me, I was told that they would give one bit of information about the player. The reason the investigations could be different today is because it is coming from someone/something else, or it is all made up. I am still upset that kalish isnt coming back as he had said he was on to something before he went away.

Flavor Investigation gives an article of the investigated person as a clue to that persons identity.


Now first post of cena about his investigation:

Sigh Bastards a believer unvote
Ill explain
I got a gift of an invesigation from the princess. I used it straight away on / and he's a believer.
Now / I have cleared you I want you to talk. Why wouldn't you talk?? Are you infact the princess

Cena stated that he got a clear result .


Now comes second result of MM.

cena speaks the truth, / is in fact a princess. I got a "gift" from another princess - a one-shot day investigation result thingy.
....

MM stated he got a clear result. He even knew / is a princess and later we learned also that cena knew it too.


Now comes third result of AD.

She gave one shot abilities to 11 people...and I think the princess is going to die... I think

And hence her lynch would be pointless, even though she is confirmed...
This would also indicate that we know we can now trust Cena and MM...

Only if it's certain that / is the princess.
We only think that because Cena and MM say so... we need to avoid circular logic.

Well, I used one of the one shots too... And I used it on Cena... He's a Believer, so I trust him.
Didn't tell me his role though.

AD didn't get the role of cena, but he stated cena is believer, i.e. a half clear result.


2. day investigations. We start with MM.

....
Anyway I have it now, although it's slightly different from last time. Apparently it's an investiagtion that gives out clues instead of alliances.
A Black Feather
This ringing any bells with anyone?

MM got an unclear result, just a clue.


And than comes LSU.

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

Also LSU got an unclear result, just a clue.



FINAL CONCLUSION:

MM got a very clear result on Day 1 and posted accordingly the truth. He couldn't have foreseen that the results will get unclearer day by day. That is a clear indication for me that MM posted the correct result (whatever he got from Talapus) also on Day 2. That gives me no %100 answer if he is a believer or not, however makes me believe that MM is most probably a believer.




We know from Droz that he gave another Flavor Investigation to a fourth person on day 1.
Droz, it's time now to tell us who he was.
Although you clearly stated that you will reveal his identity, we have never heard about him up to now. So either he is submarining or not reading the thread at all. Knowing his identity may give us further clues.

.

good logic Selin. You and LSU combined does make MM seem not as scummy. Unvote MM Fos: MM So for now I'm unvoting MM, though there is still a bit of suspiciousness to it.

Fos: Cena Skimmar, The MM case was no PMC's but MINE.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

On my investigation, it just gave me something that is related to that person's role, but it didn't verify either believer or non-believer . At this point, I still don't want to post everything as it would probably help the scum out more than it would help the rest of the townies.

Droz who else had your investigations and was there a particular order that you sent them out? This could coincide with the differences in the investigation types and results given.

[DRoZ]

On my investigation, it just gave me something that is related to that person's role, but it didn't verify either believer or non-believer . At this point, I still don't want to post everything as it would probably help the scum out more than it would help the rest of the townies.

Droz who else had your investigations and was there a particular order that you sent them out? This could coincide with the differences in the investigation types and results given.

*zzzz* No need to disclose the info on your investigation quite yet. All of my investigations were given out before the end of day one, as that was the stipulation. You got yours at the same time as the rest of them, so there should be no difference in the investigations. All of them are as follows...

MM-says / was a princess, although it has came out that / isnt a princess...
LSU-disabled for day one, got back someone as a believer but cant release info, for fear of scum.
Kalish-disabled for day one, got replaced by day two...
AD-said cena was a believer.
MIB-said skoffin is a believer.
Cena-said / was a believer.

The way I see it now, MM, AD and cena could all be scum and I was just unlucky in my choices for blessings, as their investigations came back so clear-cut, so they could be made up... Also cena got / off a lynch just in time, so if it turns out that cena is scum, then / is more than likely the same.

Hopefully spurgistan can help out with the last investigation...

[Minister Masket]

The way I see it now, MM, AD and cena could all be scum

On the surface it may look that way, but a closer look reveals discrepencies.

I like that logic
unvote which my vote wasnt counted anyway
vote mm

cena was one of the first to vote me when I bungled. I did think I could count on him as an ally when he got the same-ish result I did on Day 1. Now I'm not so sure.

A better theory is that AD, cena and / are all scum.
However, that still leaves the mystery as to how/why I got / as a princess on Day 1.

That reminds me, I got him as a princess, not a believer, a princess. Possibility of scum princesses?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

On my investigation, it just gave me something that is related to that person's role, but it didn't verify either believer or non-believer . At this point, I still don't want to post everything as it would probably help the scum out more than it would help the rest of the townies.

Droz who else had your investigations and was there a particular order that you sent them out? This could coincide with the differences in the investigation types and results given.

*zzzz* No need to disclose the info on your investigation quite yet. All of my investigations were given out before the end of day one, as that was the stipulation. You got yours at the same time as the rest of them, so there should be no difference in the investigations. All of them are as follows...

MM-says / was a princess, although it has came out that / isnt a princess...
LSU-disabled for day one, got back someone as a believer but cant release info, for fear of scum.
Kalish-disabled for day one, got replaced by day two...
AD-said cena was a believer.
MIB-said skoffin is a believer.
Cena-said / was a believer.

The way I see it now, MM, AD and cena could all be scum and I was just unlucky in my choices for blessings, as their investigations came back so clear-cut, so they could be made up... Also cena got / off a lynch just in time, so if it turns out that cena is scum, then / is more than likely the same.

Hopefully spurgistan can help out with the last investigation...

I got back a clue that I think is a hint at a believer although I do not know for sure. The hint that came from the investigation did not state believer or not. If the person is who I think it might be than they are more likely a believer