Kindergarten Mafia - Game over - Town wins!

[animorpherv1]

oops.

[MountainLion]

I have a stupid question, but is it possible there are 3rd party blockers?

animorph, why are you so focused on how/why Clive was blocked? Shouldn't you be more focused on finding scum?

[Sierra_Leon]

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Vote count

animorpherv1 - 1 (Clive)

Not voting: kalishnikov, MountainLion, Skoffin, ga7, nagerous, firth4eva, militant, mr. incrediball, animorpherv1


With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

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[animorpherv1]

I thought that finding the role blocker could help us find the scum.

[MountainLion]

On page 16 ga7 wrote the following question asking for more info about the cop's roles. He directs the question to animorph. I put the key words in red:

Right. Hrrmm, this reminds me of an old spinwizard game where the infamous NES fakeclaimed cop on his way to a day 1 lynch as usual. I think I'll reread what the real cop did
Meanwhile a question to Ani that might help, as Clive couldn't answer it:
Could you give more info about your role, relevant or not, without quoting directly or using the same wording ie paraphrasing in your own words? (just making sure )

Then Clive answers the question no problem:

And I personnaly didn't know what kindergarten cop even was til someone brought it up as being a movie post my claim.

Looks like this kid did watch a 15.

Mod said i'm allowed to paraphrase flavor, so i'll try to.

Arnold Swarz is my hero.

I am imitating him.

My sanity is unknown to me.

Animo, what was the result you recieved on AD's investigation?

Where is animorph's answer? I couldn't find it because he NEVER answered the question. So please answer it now animorph. Could you give more info about your role, relevant or not, without quoting directly or using the same wording ie paraphrasing in your own words?

[nagerous]

This should be interesting...

[animorpherv1]

To answer your first question: I don't think I noticed it. I'll see if I can find something useful in my PM.

[animorpherv1]

Here's something of great value. I am an anti-frame Cop, like a normal cop, I can investigate people, but Frame's don't work on me. I think it goes something like my badge gives me the power to see through the disguises of framings. And yes, I was saving this untill a much greater time, I'm bound to be roleblocked now.

[nagerous]

Seems like BS to me but I'm not sure.

[militant]

Seems like BS to me but I'm not sure.

I agree, How can a badge enable you to see through frames

[mr. incrediball]

this is bullshit. if you had this uber-cop role, why didn't you tell us about it the minute you claimed?

vote animo.

[animorpherv1]

I was saving it for later times, like right now. I mentioned that in there.

[nagerous]

this is bullshit. if you had this uber-cop role, why didn't you tell us about it the minute you claimed?

vote animo.

Wow... aggressive, now potentially pushing the lynch of a claimed cop.

You've bee n submarining all game, what else do you have to say for yourself sonny.

[Clive]

this is bullshit. if you had this uber-cop role, why didn't you tell us about it the minute you claimed?

vote animo.

Wow... aggressive, now potentially pushing the lynch of a claimed cop.

You've bee n submarining all game, what else do you have to say for yourself sonny.

Not surprising, given what animo's trying to pull.

[animorpherv1]

FOS mib, 'cuz he's pushing for my lynch.

[MountainLion]

Here's something of great value. I am an anti-frame Cop, like a normal cop, I can investigate people, but Frame's don't work on me. I think it goes something like my badge gives me the power to see through the disguises of framings. And yes, I was saving this untill a much greater time, I'm bound to be roleblocked now.

Anti-frame cop?!

First of all, you didn't have to say that. If you look at what Clive wrote he said, for example "Arnold Swarz is my hero." You could have told us something background storyline related like that rather than power related. You don't have anything like that?

[ga7]

Alright, some random thoughts that went through my hurting hungover head...
I find it an odd choice for a nk to kill Sam who was one of the prime suspects. I checked the rules and SL didn't put the bit about not having clues in scenes... AD death was about the bad kids strangling the teacher, this time it's about one kid with scissors. Vig or potential SK instead of mafia? Possibly.
Then the mafia roleblocker targeted me o noes theory. I don't buy it one bit, scum already had a GF and town seems to have a large portion of vanillas, so I doubt there'd be this kind of very very powerful roles on mafia side. If Clive is honest, most likely town blocker blocked him.
With that said, there's yet again another dilemma:
If town blocker blocked Clive and the kill was actually caused by a vig... Chances are high Clive is scum. On the other hand, Ani is acting beyond scummy with that bit about anti framer powers, it sounds so made up. I find both cops investigating Skoff questionable also... If she was scum it'd be more likely she's an usurper as scum usually wouldn't go hammer their GF when there was still unconvinced people/nothing that incriminating about Lovo. IE even if they chose to investigate Skoff it wouldn't mean much regardless of the result (though personally I find it more likely for her to be town, but smart scum could pull that off too).
Problem now is that both our supposed cops are scummy as hell, and it doesn't seem like this situation is going to solve by itself. ML had a very good idea on questioning again Ani about his role as I noticed yesterday he avoided discussion on it. Now that he came with something so farfetched as that to add content... While it might seem as a bit of a gamble, seeing as I'm still persuaded at least one of them is scum as they can only be sane or naive and a combo of only these 2 kinds don't make a whole lot of sense (I'm assuming there's not another couple of cops hiding there, but seeing how the game flowed the probability is near 0) I'll trust my gut feeling and Vote Animo for being some kind of Nes scum. Sure, it could be wrong, but at this point so much BS-looking things have been fed to us that I feel in that case it'll help more uncover scum than trusting Ani for weak reasons/waiting forever for him to actually investigate scum.

[Sierra_Leon]

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Vote count

animorpherv1 - 3 (Clive, mr. incrediball, ga7)

Not voting: kalishnikov, MountainLion, Skoffin, nagerous, firth4eva, militant, animorpherv1


With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

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[mr. incrediball]

this is bullshit. if you had this uber-cop role, why didn't you tell us about it the minute you claimed?

vote animo.

Wow... aggressive, now potentially pushing the lynch of a claimed cop.

You've bee n submarining all game, what else do you have to say for yourself sonny.

subbing? me? i thought i'd been as active as i could. meh.

[Skoffin]

Well this is interesting. First Ani's claim sounds ludicrous, I've never heard of such a role and I'm not sure Sierra would make ones up as this seems like a standard game so far. And the question was for 'flavour' not for elaboration on the role, it sounds as if he is panicking and looking for a way to bullshit out of it. And his not answering the question to begin with was either him skimming or an attempt at avoidance, neither good for town.
But on the off chance he is telling the truth then essentially we would have to disregard all cop investigations (or atleast be very wary with them) as that would mean there is a framer in the game.
All in all though, Clive being roleblocked is more plausible then animo being a anti-framing cop.
Ani, you need to paraphrase on your flavour.

Vote animorph

[mr. incrediball]

just a thought that crossed my mind a few seconds ago:

ani's a noob, right?

then how does he know what a mafia framer is unless his role has something to do with them?


unless, of course, he is the mafia framer.

[Sierra_Leon]

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Vote count

animorpherv1 - 4 (Clive, mr. incrediball, ga7, Skoffin)

Not voting: kalishnikov, MountainLion, nagerous, firth4eva, militant, animorpherv1


With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

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[MountainLion]

Ani, you need to paraphrase on your flavour.

yes animorph please give us a little more if you can. if not, so be it.

just a thought that crossed my mind a few seconds ago:

ani's a noob, right?

then how does he know what a mafia framer is unless his role has something to do with them?

unless, of course, he is the mafia framer.

Well Clive was blocked, and if he's telling the truth, I doubt mafia have both a blocker and a framer.

Could we please NOT get any more votes on animorph! I want to hear from him one more time, and depending on how he answers I have a case against someone else that could be better than to lynch animorph, because it includes possible evidence that animorph is innocent.

[MountainLion]

Let me just say what I found is not clear cut evidence, but I believe it's worth looking at before we go and lynch animorph. But like I said, I want to hear from animorph first.

[animorpherv1]

I don't think their's anything I can say at this point.