Both attacking me and not answering... [cleared]

[Osi]

The accused are suspected of:

• Having a secret alliance

Game number(s):

• Game 2534453

[SirSebstar]

unlikely since both never played a single game together outside of the one mentioned.
green is a cook for a reason
and well, you were not really asking them a question, so why should they bother to write you at all? Have you tried a PM?
That might help.

nope, does not look like your typical multi to me

[lancehoch]

I know it is a three player game and painfully obvious as to who the accused are, but could you please put the names in the first post of the thread.

[cisco2001]

This is a strange case. They both miss turns at the same time. They take back to back turns. However, they have no history together. It looks suspicious....

[Commander Eric]

Yesss but that is called winning without having nobody to answer too, in 6-8 player games that I am involved in at the moment in August 2008, I had just joined your group in July. Nobody says much at all, however you normally can tell in Classic Risk, Pearle Harbour, DDay etc, even better in Waterloo etc, when 3-4 players start ganging up on a newbee and collaborating to get him or her eliminated as well as making sure they can never cash in their first set of 3 to five cards....what makes me angry is those other players get ratings and rankings they should not get because it is their idea of winning.

[Commander Eric]

I know it is a three player game and painfully obvious as to who the accused are, but could you please put the names in the first post of the thread.

Ok lancehoch, how do you proof that even in a 3 player game anyone was cheating when the 2 players do not talk but gang up on you? It is simply their way of doing things. In 6-8 player games supposed table talk is encouraged but when you chat during the game asking your supposed allies not to attack you when your going against a suppsed foe player, how do you know that that foe player has not made a secret deal with the allied player you tell your not going to attack, Dexisting is a good example of this as is Jman.....I could go on with other names of players of the games I was involved in but people will say I "whine too much".

[e_i_pi]

I suggest people investigate before
a) Making claims
b) Doubting claims

A quick look at past games yields some interesting information. I would list the players as:

• [player]odieman_623[/player]
• [player]aphazia[/player]
• [player]dough1979[/player]
• [player]wwefan94[/player]
• [player]Ray of death[/player]
• [player]Chuktherock[/player]
• [player]smithandwesson[/player]

...stating further that they most likely are all related to one another or are close friends. They probably have an understanding that knocking out the player that they don't know is first priority, judging by their behaviour in the games stated below. [player]odieman_623[/player] is the common denominator in all these games.

Previous suspicious behaviour (ie - knocking out unknown player first):

• Game 2534453 - possible collusion odieman_623, aphazia - against Osi
• Game 2654172 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979 - against shivi
• Game 2654027 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979, and Ray of death - against Buddy Lee
• Game 2653489 - possible collusion odieman_623, wwefan94, Chuktherock, Ray of death - against jangler3

Hints that they know each other irl:

• Game 2576116 - odieman_623 and dough1979
• Game 2841067 - odieman_623 and wwefan94
• Game 2857676 - odieman_623 and Chuktherock

Also, they play a lot of Private games against one another. I think for the most part these guys are legit, but they shouldn't be playing 3-4 player games and ganging up on the one player. My prediction is a 'Noted' tag.

[Commander Eric]

I suggest people investigate before
a) Making claims
b) Doubting claims

A quick look at past games yields some interesting information. I would list the players as:

• [player]odieman_623[/player]
• [player]aphazia[/player]
• [player]dough1979[/player]
• [player]wwefan94[/player]
• [player]Ray of death[/player]
• [player]Chuktherock[/player]
• [player]smithandwesson[/player]

...stating further that they most likely are all related to one another or are close friends. They probably have an understanding that knocking out the player that they don't know is first priority, judging by their behaviour in the games stated below. [player]odieman_623[/player] is the common denominator in all these games.

Previous suspicious behaviour (ie - knocking out unknown player first):

• Game 2534453 - possible collusion odieman_623, aphazia - against Osi
• Game 2654172 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979 - against shivi
• Game 2654027 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979, and Ray of death - against Buddy Lee
• Game 2653489 - possible collusion odieman_623, wwefan94, Chuktherock, Ray of death - against jangler3

Hints that they know each other irl:

• Game 2576116 - odieman_623 and dough1979
• Game 2841067 - odieman_623 and wwefan94
• Game 2857676 - odieman_623 and Chuktherock

Also, they play a lot of Private games against one another. I think for the most part these guys are legit, but they shouldn't be playing 3-4 player games and ganging up on the one player. My prediction is a 'Noted' tag.

Agreed e i pi, your quite wise; but you have to play where the games are with the players your assigned to play or you have no fun at all. People get angry, I know I did and gave the players ratings they may like but I was honest.....and upset.

The rules being what they are, tags may not work at all you cannot stop people from playing private games and talking out their manouvers if someone new comes into their games unprepared against what they do. The Game I am involved in as the US Civil War, because I had missed a turn I got an advantage in forces. Now that advantage is slipping abit yet I may still kick their rears if I can; the unknown haunts players too.

In Waterloo game that I am playing, I am getting run over but I run over others making them pay for what they do for me, we are supposed to be british forces going after Napolieon, if the game was played right I would not be attacked by the brit forces so hard since my forces are brit but it is dog eat dog.

[Anarkistsdream]

None of this makes any sense, there... Commander... *guffaw*

[Frop]

I suggest people investigate before
a) Making claims
b) Doubting claims

A quick look at past games yields some interesting information. I would list the players as:

• [player]odieman_623[/player]
• [player]aphazia[/player]
• [player]dough1979[/player]
• [player]wwefan94[/player]
• [player]Ray of death[/player]
• [player]Chuktherock[/player]
• [player]smithandwesson[/player]

...stating further that they most likely are all related to one another or are close friends. They probably have an understanding that knocking out the player that they don't know is first priority, judging by their behaviour in the games stated below. [player]odieman_623[/player] is the common denominator in all these games.

Previous suspicious behaviour (ie - knocking out unknown player first):

• Game 2534453 - possible collusion odieman_623, aphazia - against Osi
• Game 2654172 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979 - against shivi
• Game 2654027 - possible collusion odieman_623, dough1979, and Ray of death - against Buddy Lee
• Game 2653489 - possible collusion odieman_623, wwefan94, Chuktherock, Ray of death - against jangler3

Hints that they know each other irl:

• Game 2576116 - odieman_623 and dough1979
• Game 2841067 - odieman_623 and wwefan94
• Game 2857676 - odieman_623 and Chuktherock

Also, they play a lot of Private games against one another. I think for the most part these guys are legit, but they shouldn't be playing 3-4 player games and ganging up on the one player. My prediction is a 'Noted' tag.

I want to have your baby! My prediction is 'blocked' if Fireside Poet looks at it and 'noted' if King Achilles does.

[Jeff Hardy]

weird how they both missed a turn at the same time but i doubt that anyone would have two premium accounts

[delboy01]

This brings up an interesting question. That of players that know each other and play each other a lot then entering other games with different players.

I have myself ended up in 4/5 player games where the others clearly know each other and guess what they all attack me and leave each other alone.

These people may be doing this subconsiously or deliberately either way there should be another category of 'warned about future conduct' added to the list.

[Commander Eric]

This brings up an interesting question. That of players that know each other and play each other a lot then entering other games with different players.

I have myself ended up in 4/5 player games where the others clearly know each other and guess what they all attack me and leave each other alone.

These people may be doing this subconsiously or deliberately either way there should be another category of 'warned about future conduct' added to the list.

Commander Eric:
delboy, better take off your rose colored glasses, nobody does anything in these games UNCONSCIOUSLY. Me included; the reason why is pretty basic as I have learned it this past month from other people with the skull medal on their chests and whom polish it each day. "You are what you become."

[Commander Eric]

None of this makes any sense, there... Commander... *guffaw*

Commander Eric:
Gee Anarkistsdream, are you polishing your chest medal right now the skullboy one you take so much pride in, then go on the public games as an idiot trashing anyone that might get a set of 3 cards before they can deploy the forces they get for the cards?

Anark, is that your real picture there being an Satanist or are you a teenager that is about 12-18yrs old whom has mental problems and is on medication? If you are Anark, I would suggest you never post to me again for I am a pretty good psychologist myself.

[Commander Eric]

weird how they both missed a turn at the same time but i doubt that anyone would have two premium accounts

Commander Eric:
Yesss that is interesting, if they both missed a turn then logically (A) each of them are either brothers or friends, or gay. Take your pic; I put nothing past anyone in these public games. (B) They treat all novices as enemies first and foremost; the warning signs about them are that they hate anyone getting an 3 card set and then to make them even more crazied if someone stands up to them making very good moves upon them, like children each decides in a rage without talking to each other to wipe out the novice if they can but thinning down their own forces. They don't care if they loose nor do they care about anyone but themselves and their own personal agendas. (C) One may be a bot program that the other uses on a computer or perhaps 3, this program is a specialized program that thinks like a human and uses human movements, it also scans people's urls and service provider numbers. It is highly illegal and is what hackers use, but when did things like that stop hackers......in the past 15yrs it has been growing into a blackmarket industry right around the world.

[Frop]

Commander Eric, I don't know why you put your name in front of everything you write. This is a forum and not 4chan /b/, so we can see who posted something. Apart from that please quit trolling this forum unless you actually have something to contribute (apart from your paranoid rantings about bots and such). If you want to spray more mindless drivel please head over to Chatter Box, otherwise if you want to have a swing at the e-penis medals I suggest you head over to Flame Wars.

[jonesthecurl]

Anark, is that your real picture there being an Satanist or are you a teenager that is about 12-18yrs old whom has mental problems and is on medication?

If he hasn't already said so, that's Anton la Vey.
Actually, it's still him even if he has said so.

[gcwca_4_life]

Accused:

odieman_623
aphazia


The accused are suspected of:

• Having a secret alliance

Game number(s):

• Game 2534453

Form Filled.

[king achilles]

Just for the record, I have checked aphazia and odieman_623 and they are not multi accounts with each other. Also, this is their first game played together so far. We would need more than one game of strong evidence of malicious plays involving the same players to warrant a block.

We do not punish people just because they didn't attack someone or because they attack someone else repeatedly. Otherwise, everybody would be dictating everyone else on how they should play the game.