GODFATHER MAFIA - FINALLY OVER! CORLEONES WIN!!!

[mandalorian2298]

animo has acted way out of character this game. But I still like a mandy vote more. FYI....no one is jumping on your one man militant bandwagon

I really, really hope that you're not pro-town Tal, or I will go LSU on your ass after this game (I will whine for months about your terrible mistake and repeatedly try to persuade people to take away your "human being" status ).

[animorpherv1]

OK, GUYS, what's this about doctor's not being able to see if they were blocked? This is my 1st time as doctor, and maybe, just mabye, nag decided against it?

[FloresDelMal]

ok, i know i should be able to find this information looking back at your posts mandy, but i am at my work, i am a bit hangover (last night we celebrated anniversary nº5 with ga7) and i am "at 2 minutes of faint" hungry, so please be so darling and explain again why are you so convinced of militant being the cult leader, thanks in advance dear.

[mandalorian2298]

ok, i know i should be able to find this information looking back at your posts mandy, but i am at my work, i am a bit hangover (last night we celebrated anniversary nº5 with ga7) and i am "at 2 minutes of faint" hungry, so please be so darling and explain again why are you so convinced of militant being the cult leader, thanks in advance dear.

I'm sure that your work effectiveness is amazing right now.

Here is my case against militant (page 107). Further behaviour by Sierra, and later by LSU convinced me that I'm right. As for Ani, he is either real good at faking crazyness, a Jester or he's been stoned for the last few days.

i think an experienced (and somewhat erratic we must admit ) player like mandy could very easily have come up with a fake claim for take us out of his back, but he didnt, this more than scummy strikes me as awfully sturbborn, maybe even brattish, but is that enough reason to lynch someone? i think our fairest bets are animorph who is most likely cult, or tonka who we are almost certain to be scum.

Oh Flores, you know me shortly, but you know me so well.

Seriously though. Given that Tonka is a confirmed Corleone, LSU and Tal are as well (or Neotany would have counter their claims) we can rule them out. Given that no one died last night, the chances are better for Flores telling the truth then for her being Cult Leader. Given that I am so incredibly handsome and brilliant, it would be a real shame to lynch me (I also lynched one Mobster and one Cultie thus far, if my classic profile alone isn't enough of a reason to keep me (and it damn well should be )). This leaves Sierra, Ani and Militant. Given how loud Sierra and Ani have been, and adding Sierra's statement that Militant's claim is "Kinda reliable", I am prepared to bet a modest amount of money on Militant's Cultleaderness.

Since Ani is a claimed Doc (and if he has been recruited he would have no reason to lie about his claim) it is easy to figure out why a) there has been so few dead Culties (statisticaly speaking) and b) how come Cult still hasn't won the game. They are obviously playing it conservatively, with Ani protecting Militant, Militant not recruiting out of fear that he is going to pick wrong and die and Sierra acting as a lightning rod, diverting all atention towards himself and away from Militant.

vote Militant

P.S. I would like to change my statement from "I refuse to claim." to "I refuse to claim Sierra, you ruddy Cultie."

P.P.S. Since I am either right and we'll hit Cult Leader or I'm wrong and have screwed up big times TWICE, I promise to claim tomorrow (if Militant is lynched, of course).

P.S. Happy anniversary you crazy French people!

[ga7]

*lifts the lid of his coffin* Thanks Mandy
*naag let me replace I'm bored with grimms gone *

[mandalorian2298]

*lifts the lid of his coffin* Thanks Mandy
*naag let me replace I'm bored with grimms gone *

I hope that you'll receive a anniversary gift from Ribery & the rest of the gang this evening.

[FloresDelMal]

Okaaay given the sudden change of heart of Sierra and co of follow my lead, and my conviction that they are culties brings me to beliave that i am wrong, and indeed as mandy pointed ani has been either stoned or in a constant sugar high, so Unvote Vote Militant... again.

[nagerous]

*lifts the lid of his coffin* Thanks Mandy
*naag let me replace I'm bored with grimms gone *

Didn't I pretty much tell you everything?

[Sierra_Leon]

[...]
Please do me a big favour here. Check Kalish's role (he was killed night 2). Look it up on wikipedia or some other site. Then tell me what other worse threats would be out there.
[...]

Mandy's theory hinges on the fact that there is still a cult leader. I think that assumption is wrong.

With the latest revelation of ani being scum, I'm retracting my accusation of a tonka/mandy/flores mafia trio. It's more likely a tonka/ani duo. The only question still remaining is why there was no kill last night. The previous night they could have hit Flores, but the next day she claimed bulletproof so I sincerely doubt they would try to kill her again. No other roles have been claimed that could prevent a kill, if we assume ani is really a doctor.

Talapus, what is your role name?

Mandy, what is your role?

[mandalorian2298]

[...]
Please do me a big favour here. Check Kalish's role (he was killed night 2). Look it up on wikipedia or some other site. Then tell me what other worse threats would be out there.
[...]

Mandy's theory hinges on the fact that there is still a cult leader. I think that assumption is wrong.

Simple math, Sierra old bean.

1(Cultie corpse) - 1(Cult Leader corpse) = 1(Live Cult Leder named Militant)

Check my result on your pocket calculator and you'll see that I'm right.

Seriously, Tal & LSU, Sierra's persistant claiming that "Kalishnikov - Emilio Barzini (Barzini Cult Member)" was the Cult Leader doesn't activate your Scum Alarm? Have you guys been helmet bowling lately?

[Sierra_Leon]

Here's what I call simple math:

It's now day 8. If the cult leader were still alive, he would have had 7 chances to recruit members. We can assume both kalish and AD started out as cult, because their role doesn't say "recruit". Iliad was their only known recruit. That leaves 6 nights of recruiting unaccounted for.

There are 8 people left alive. The game is not over, so cult must be smaller than 50% of the people: either 1, 2 or 3 people. If the the cult leader is still alive, he could have 2 culties with him at max. Do you really think that the cult leader could have failed to recruit 4 (!) out of the 6 nights?!

Also, if Emilio Barzini wasn't the cult leader, then what role would fit as cult leader?


Bottomline:
1) You roleclaim
2) Talapus nameclaims
3) We lynch mafia. Preferably Tonka, but I'll settle for ani.

[Talapus]

I'll say my name no problem. But mandy is the only obe who has given us nothing. So he needs to speak up first. This constant blaming militant and flying under the radar as the ONLY person in the game who has yet to give us anything has to stop. So mandy....you need to come clean first. Who are you?

[animorpherv1]

I'll say my name no problem. But mandy is the only obe who has given us nothing. So he needs to speak up first. This constant blaming militant and flying under the radar as the ONLY person in the game who has yet to give us anything has to stop. So mandy....you need to come clean first. Who are you?

And think of it this way, your unability to claim makes me think you are scum, but I'll change my mind if you get a good claim (I'll unvote too)

[Talapus]

I'll say my name no problem. But mandy is the only obe who has given us nothing. So he needs to speak up first. This constant blaming militant and flying under the radar as the ONLY person in the game who has yet to give us anything has to stop. So mandy....you need to come clean first. Who are you?

And think of it this way, your unability to claim makes me think you are scum, but I'll change my mind if you get a good claim (I'll unvote too)

Wow, are you serious? I was one of the first of us to go out on a limb and start hinting as to why you all shouldn't vote for josh at the time. His claim with the fact I was a baby for so long should have clued you into who I was. Read back dude....I've already given out more then mandy. I'm I am willing to claim....after he does.

[mandalorian2298]

I'll say my name no problem. But mandy is the only obe who has given us nothing. So he needs to speak up first. This constant blaming militant and flying under the radar as the ONLY person in the game who has yet to give us anything has to stop. So mandy....you need to come clean first. Who are you?

And think of it this way, your unability to claim makes me think you are scum, but I'll change my mind if you get a good claim (I'll unvote too)

Wow, are you serious? I was one of the first of us to go out on a limb and start hinting as to why you all shouldn't vote for josh at the time. His claim with the fact I was a baby for so long should have clued you into who I was. Read back dude....I've already given out more then mandy. I'm I am willing to claim....after he does.

I think that your obvious reluctance to admit gaping inconsistencies in Sierra's logic makes you a recruited Cultie. Given the fact that you're were a baby Corleone, I am sure that you're not the mark to go after today.

On the plus side, the possibility that you're permaScum fits into my world-view much better then the possibility that you have lost all your logical capabilities.

[Sierra_Leon]

Mandy, respond to my previous post please.

[mandalorian2298]

Here's what I call simple math:

It's now day 8. If the cult leader were still alive, he would have had 7 chances to recruit members. We can assume both kalish and AD started out as cult, because their role doesn't say "recruit". Iliad was their only known recruit. That leaves 6 nights of recruiting unaccounted for.

There are 8 people left alive. The game is not over, so cult must be smaller than 50% of the people: either 1, 2 or 3 people. If the the cult leader is still alive, he could have 2 culties with him at max. Do you really think that the cult leader could have failed to recruit 4 (!) out of the 6 nights?!

Also, if Emilio Barzini wasn't the cult leader, then what role would fit as cult leader?


Bottomline:
1) You roleclaim
2) Talapus nameclaims
3) We lynch mafia. Preferably Tonka, but I'll settle for ani.

1) I don't take orders from Culties
2) Who cares? He's a Corleone kid. The question of wherther he has been recruited has nothing to do with his role's name.
3) No, you don't. You guys still don't have over 50% votes. Worst case scenario: no Lynch and then the ball goes to Militant and Michael Corleone.

Now, I have one question for you. I ask more out of the spirit of debating then for any other reason (after all, I know that you are Cultie and you know that I'm not, which makes meaningful dialogue in search of a mutualy actable compromise kind of hard ): Have you EVER in all the games you played on CC encountered a Cult without a Cult Leader or Cult Recruiter specified?

[ga7]

Instead of kicking someone out and letting me replace, on the false pretense that I know everything which I have no recollection of, Nag asked me to do a vote count. Tch.

Vote Count:

Mandy (3) talapalapus, ani, militant
Militant (2) mandy, flores
Animorph (3) sierra, lsu, tonka

5 to lynch.

[animorpherv1]

Mandy, we need your claim, we can then figure out who is what, if you don't want to help us all, and act scummy, go for it, but if you want to help out the town, and claim NOW, then that's be much appreciated, personally, I don't think mandy's gonna claim if we lynch miltiant, she/he's gonna submarine the next day, and the next, untill the town wins or loses.

[FloresDelMal]

Deadline pwetty please

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I am also of agreement that I don't believe Mandy will be given his name and claim. He is my preference Unvote Vote Mandy Mandy is now at -1. He has repeatedly refused to claim and as I stated earlier I would be fine with voting for either mandy or animo with my preference being for Mandy over his complete refusal to claim. If a suitable claim is given by the time I get up tomorrow without him lynched then I'll unvote.

[nagerous]

Vote Count:

Mandy (4) talapalapus, animorph, militant, LSU
Militant (2) mandy, flores
animorph (2) sierra, tonka

5 to lynch.


48 hour deadline from now...

[Sierra_Leon]

w00t I can hammer teh mandy!
Unfortunately, Mandy is no longer on my probably-mafia-list. He's on my stubborn-townies-who-won't-listen-to-other-people-list. Mandy, when I asked you to respond to my post, of course I didn't mean that part which you just responded to. I meant this part:

Here's what I call simple math:

It's now day 8. If the cult leader were still alive, he would have had 7 chances to recruit members. We can assume both kalish and AD started out as cult, because their role doesn't say "recruit". Iliad was their only known recruit. That leaves 6 nights of recruiting unaccounted for.

There are 8 people left alive. The game is not over, so cult must be smaller than 50% of the people: either 1, 2 or 3 people. If the the cult leader is still alive, he could have 2 culties with him at max. Do you really think that the cult leader could have failed to recruit 4 (!) out of the 6 nights?!

Also, if Emilio Barzini wasn't the cult leader, then what role would fit as cult leader?

Respond to both the math part and the Emilio question please.

Oh and again: please claim, because if the deadline is getting too close someone might be tempted to hammer you if you don't.

[mandalorian2298]

w00t I can hammer teh mandy!
Unfortunately, Mandy is no longer on my probably-mafia-list. He's on my stubborn-townies-who-won't-listen-to-other-people-list. Mandy, when I asked you to respond to my post, of course I didn't mean that part which you just responded to. I meant this part:

Here's what I call simple math:

It's now day 8. If the cult leader were still alive, he would have had 7 chances to recruit members. We can assume both kalish and AD started out as cult, because their role doesn't say "recruit". Iliad was their only known recruit. That leaves 6 nights of recruiting unaccounted for.

There are 8 people left alive. The game is not over, so cult must be smaller than 50% of the people: either 1, 2 or 3 people. If the the cult leader is still alive, he could have 2 culties with him at max. Do you really think that the cult leader could have failed to recruit 4 (!) out of the 6 nights?!

Also, if Emilio Barzini wasn't the cult leader, then what role would fit as cult leader?

Respond to both the math part and the Emilio question please.

Oh and again: please claim, because if the deadline is getting too close someone might be tempted to hammer you if you don't.

Whaaat? Huh? What? You hammer me and the Cult wins. And then you win. WTF?!

[mandalorian2298]

w00t I can hammer teh mandy!
Unfortunately, Mandy is no longer on my probably-mafia-list. He's on my stubborn-townies-who-won't-listen-to-other-people-list. Mandy, when I asked you to respond to my post, of course I didn't mean that part which you just responded to. I meant this part:

Here's what I call simple math:

It's now day 8. If the cult leader were still alive, he would have had 7 chances to recruit members. We can assume both kalish and AD started out as cult, because their role doesn't say "recruit". Iliad was their only known recruit. That leaves 6 nights of recruiting unaccounted for.

There are 8 people left alive. The game is not over, so cult must be smaller than 50% of the people: either 1, 2 or 3 people. If the the cult leader is still alive, he could have 2 culties with him at max. Do you really think that the cult leader could have failed to recruit 4 (!) out of the 6 nights?!

Also, if Emilio Barzini wasn't the cult leader, then what role would fit as cult leader?

Respond to both the math part and the Emilio question please.

Oh and again: please claim, because if the deadline is getting too close someone might be tempted to hammer you if you don't.

As for the math part, I said it many pages earlier that I think that Cult played it conservativly without recruiting every Night.