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Way to go dude. This had the potential to become a great CC-myth. But oh no, you had to go and kill it before it took root.Twill wrote:Not to correct t-o-m or anything, but there isn't actually free premium for the conqueror
Gengoldy wrote:Of all the games I've played, and there have been some poor sports and cursing players out there, you are by far the lowest and with the least class.
He's also a multi.Scott-Land wrote:If it's Freemium and rank related, the answer will be Mhennigan more times than not. I do believe he has the all time high score as a player that has never gone premium with 3723.
firth4eva wrote:He's also a multi.Scott-Land wrote:If it's Freemium and rank related, the answer will be Mhennigan more times than not. I do believe he has the all time high score as a player that has never gone premium with 3723.
It would take someone with immense luck in dice drop and superhuman skill to accomplish with out being Premium. Of course I feel that freemiums of equal ranks with premiums are the superior player or have superior luck as it is. Since Freemium have to be so much better and care in their gameplay to equal someone who can play unlimited games...liamo6969 wrote:Has there ever been a freemium conqueror? if so is there a silver conqueror rank icon for them or anyone that does get there?
If not what is the highest ever position on the scoreboard by a freemium?
Ps, not sure on the speling of conqueror....
Soloman wrote:It would take someone with immense luck in dice drop and superhuman skill to accomplish with out being Premium. Of course I feel that freemiums of equal ranks with premiums are the superior player or have superior luck as it is. Since Freemium have to be so much better and care in their gameplay to equal someone who can play unlimited games...liamo6969 wrote:Has there ever been a freemium conqueror? if so is there a silver conqueror rank icon for them or anyone that does get there?
If not what is the highest ever position on the scoreboard by a freemium?
Ps, not sure on the speling of conqueror....
lozzini wrote:Soloman wrote:It would take someone with immense luck in dice drop and superhuman skill to accomplish with out being Premium. Of course I feel that freemiums of equal ranks with premiums are the superior player or have superior luck as it is. Since Freemium have to be so much better and care in their gameplay to equal someone who can play unlimited games...liamo6969 wrote:Has there ever been a freemium conqueror? if so is there a silver conqueror rank icon for them or anyone that does get there?
If not what is the highest ever position on the scoreboard by a freemium?
Ps, not sure on the speling of conqueror....
what a suprise, yur a freemium
And so are you, so your Point is? Am I wrong that it is harder and takes longer for freemiums to build rank versus our Premium counterparts? If freemium makes Conquerer it is a amazing accomplishment...lozzini wrote:Soloman wrote:It would take someone with immense luck in dice drop and superhuman skill to accomplish with out being Premium. Of course I feel that freemiums of equal ranks with premiums are the superior player or have superior luck as it is. Since Freemium have to be so much better and care in their gameplay to equal someone who can play unlimited games...liamo6969 wrote:Has there ever been a freemium conqueror? if so is there a silver conqueror rank icon for them or anyone that does get there?
If not what is the highest ever position on the scoreboard by a freemium?
Ps, not sure on the speling of conqueror....
what a suprise, yur a freemium
Exactly. Playing more games means winning more games, and loosing more games. Freemiums just need a whole lot longer to gain whatever rank than a premium would.Optimus Prime wrote:I don't think it is really any harder, just takes far longer is all.
I disagree because of individuals that point fish with noobs all they have to do is win the majority of those games by either the noobs deadbeating or making just plain dumb moves. There a lot of high rank players who do this in assorted games whether it is large circus maximus games or finding 2 player games set by noobs and joining massive #'s of them. Freemiums do not have this luxury of mass point fishing we must be selective in whom we battle because of the time constraints and we cannot have so many games going that the losses average out in the long run. More skill and luck are needed by freemiums to reach equal ranks as our premium counter parts. Not saying that all premiums resort to such underhanded tactics to increase there score, but there are a # that do and the rest can still play enough games to increase there odds of points if nothing else. I mean we all know 3 dice is better then 1 dice on attack and so is 50 games better then 4 in odds of winning points...Visaoni wrote:Exactly. Playing more games means winning more games, and loosing more games. Freemiums just need a whole lot longer to gain whatever rank than a premium would.Optimus Prime wrote:I don't think it is really any harder, just takes far longer is all.
Soloman wrote:I disagree because of individuals that point fish with noobs all they have to do is win the majority of those games by either the noobs deadbeating or making just plain dumb moves. There a lot of high rank players who do this in assorted games whether it is large circus maximus games or finding 2 player games set by noobs and joining massive #'s of them. Freemiums do not have this luxury of mass point fishing we must be selective in whom we battle because of the time constraints and we cannot have so many games going that the losses average out in the long run. More skill and luck are needed by freemiums to reach equal ranks as our premium counter parts. Not saying that all premiums resort to such underhanded tactics to increase there score, but there are a # that do and the rest can still play enough games to increase there odds of points if nothing else. I mean we all know 3 dice is better then 1 dice on attack and so is 50 games better then 4 in odds of winning points...Visaoni wrote:Exactly. Playing more games means winning more games, and loosing more games. Freemiums just need a whole lot longer to gain whatever rank than a premium would.Optimus Prime wrote:I don't think it is really any harder, just takes far longer is all.
A freemium can to exactly the same things as a premium (except setting up speed games then maybe). The skill, luck and tactics are the same. It just takes longer time for a freemium. To claim anything else is bordering fraud.Soloman wrote:I disagree because of individuals that point fish with noobs all they have to do is win the majority of those games by either the noobs deadbeating or making just plain dumb moves. There a lot of high rank players who do this in assorted games whether it is large circus maximus games or finding 2 player games set by noobs and joining massive #'s of them. Freemiums do not have this luxury of mass point fishing we must be selective in whom we battle because of the time constraints and we cannot have so many games going that the losses average out in the long run. More skill and luck are needed by freemiums to reach equal ranks as our premium counter parts. Not saying that all premiums resort to such underhanded tactics to increase there score, but there are a # that do and the rest can still play enough games to increase there odds of points if nothing else. I mean we all know 3 dice is better then 1 dice on attack and so is 50 games better then 4 in odds of winning points...
Gengoldy wrote:Of all the games I've played, and there have been some poor sports and cursing players out there, you are by far the lowest and with the least class.
wow!Twill wrote:Not to correct t-o-m or anything, but there isn't actually free premium for the conqueror
Twill
OK, he was a multi.Scott-Land wrote:firth4eva wrote:He's also a multi.Scott-Land wrote:If it's Freemium and rank related, the answer will be Mhennigan more times than not. I do believe he has the all time high score as a player that has never gone premium with 3723.
You're nuts....
Eh... listen to your own argument. "...and joining massive #'s of them." Nothing says freemiums can't do the same thing over a longer period of time. As I said, premiums can play more games in a given period of time, which means winning more points in that time frame. However, remove the time constraints and freemiums can do just as well as premiums. They just need a whole hell of a lot longer.Soloman wrote:I disagree because of individuals that point fish with noobs all they have to do is win the majority of those games by either the noobs deadbeating or making just plain dumb moves. There a lot of high rank players who do this in assorted games whether it is large circus maximus games or finding 2 player games set by noobs and joining massive #'s of them. Freemiums do not have this luxury of mass point fishing we must be selective in whom we battle because of the time constraints and we cannot have so many games going that the losses average out in the long run. More skill and luck are needed by freemiums to reach equal ranks as our premium counter parts. Not saying that all premiums resort to such underhanded tactics to increase there score, but there are a # that do and the rest can still play enough games to increase there odds of points if nothing else. I mean we all know 3 dice is better then 1 dice on attack and so is 50 games better then 4 in odds of winning points...Visaoni wrote:Exactly. Playing more games means winning more games, and loosing more games. Freemiums just need a whole lot longer to gain whatever rank than a premium would.Optimus Prime wrote:I don't think it is really any harder, just takes far longer is all.
You are kind of correct as far as fishing is concerned we could do it over a excruciating longer period of time but because of our limited game numbers the odds are not as good for success, so therefore it is wiser for a freemium to be more choosey then a premium in who he plays against, the laws of averages are on the side of premiums due to the unlimited factor. Probability is against us limited individuals in the success of fishing and the losses are more damaging as there is not 10 other games to negate the impact of it etc. So I go back to my point its harder for a freemium to gain rank and takes more skill and Luck then a premium due to our limitations, this is supported by basic mathematic laws of probability.Visaoni wrote:Eh... listen to your own argument. "...and joining massive #'s of them." Nothing says freemiums can't do the same thing over a longer period of time. As I said, premiums can play more games in a given period of time, which means winning more points in that time frame. However, remove the time constraints and freemiums can do just as well as premiums. They just need a whole hell of a lot longer.Soloman wrote:I disagree because of individuals that point fish with noobs all they have to do is win the majority of those games by either the noobs deadbeating or making just plain dumb moves. There a lot of high rank players who do this in assorted games whether it is large circus maximus games or finding 2 player games set by noobs and joining massive #'s of them. Freemiums do not have this luxury of mass point fishing we must be selective in whom we battle because of the time constraints and we cannot have so many games going that the losses average out in the long run. More skill and luck are needed by freemiums to reach equal ranks as our premium counter parts. Not saying that all premiums resort to such underhanded tactics to increase there score, but there are a # that do and the rest can still play enough games to increase there odds of points if nothing else. I mean we all know 3 dice is better then 1 dice on attack and so is 50 games better then 4 in odds of winning points...Visaoni wrote:Exactly. Playing more games means winning more games, and loosing more games. Freemiums just need a whole lot longer to gain whatever rank than a premium would.Optimus Prime wrote:I don't think it is really any harder, just takes far longer is all.
that's just garbage... absolute garbage. i made it to Lt. as a freemium, and i probably would have continued the upward climb in rank, without much of a problem. look at the scoreboard, there are two guys on there that are in my clan that have never had premium and have made it to the first page of the scoreboard easily, while i am nowhere NEAR them, despite having premium for over a year. superrag and mikiesdios play dubs together and rarely lose, and have no need to buy premium to attain rank. the scoreboard is littered with guys that have far greater rank than you do, and that aren't reliant upon huge numbers of games to achieve their rank. i am tired of freemiums tossing out the "limited games" card to explain, what they feel are, their low/sub par ranks. if you think you are good enough to be a Lt. or a Capt or a Major, then prove it. my goal as a freemium was to achieve Lt., and i did it. so, soloman, if you think you are better than your rank, i doubt it. you are exactly the player your ranks says you are, and it has nothing to do with freemium or premium.-0Soloman wrote:You are kind of correct as far as fishing is concerned we could do it over a excruciating longer period of time but because of our limited game numbers the odds are not as good for success, so therefore it is wiser for a freemium to be more choosey then a premium in who he plays against, the laws of averages are on the side of premiums due to the unlimited factor. Probability is against us limited individuals in the success of fishing and the losses are more damaging as there is not 10 other games to negate the impact of it etc. So I go back to my point its harder for a freemium to gain rank and takes more skill and Luck then a premium due to our limitations, this is supported by basic mathematic laws of probability.
I did not say it is impossible you are emotionally running on a tangent I said that those who are freemiums have to be more choosey, Have higher skill and luck then their premium counter parts to achieve equal ranks. Simple mathematic probability supports this point I am sorry if it upset you. I know there are plenty of freemiums who have made it to higher ranks based upon superior luck and skill. But ask your self this which are there more of on this site freemiums or premiums? After answering that question then ask this one does the minority group have proportionally more high ranks or less then the majority? Then using again basic principles of probability and common sense what key characteristic gives 1 side the advantage over the other? Now I know the answer to all the above, but if you still wish argue that is your prerogative...owenshooter wrote:that's just garbage... absolute garbage. i made it to Lt. as a freemium, and i probably would have continued the upward climb in rank, without much of a problem. look at the scoreboard, there are two guys on there that are in my clan that have never had premium and have made it to the first page of the scoreboard easily, while i am nowhere NEAR them, despite having premium for over a year. superrag and mikiesdios play dubs together and rarely lose, and have no need to buy premium to attain rank. the scoreboard is littered with guys that have far greater rank than you do, and that aren't reliant upon huge numbers of games to achieve their rank. i am tired of freemiums tossing out the "limited games" card to explain, what they feel are, their low/sub par ranks. if you think you are good enough to be a Lt. or a Capt or a Major, then prove it. my goal as a freemium was to achieve Lt., and i did it. so, soloman, if you think you are better than your rank, i doubt it. you are exactly the player your ranks says you are, and it has nothing to do with freemium or premium.-0Soloman wrote:You are kind of correct as far as fishing is concerned we could do it over a excruciating longer period of time but because of our limited game numbers the odds are not as good for success, so therefore it is wiser for a freemium to be more choosey then a premium in who he plays against, the laws of averages are on the side of premiums due to the unlimited factor. Probability is against us limited individuals in the success of fishing and the losses are more damaging as there is not 10 other games to negate the impact of it etc. So I go back to my point its harder for a freemium to gain rank and takes more skill and Luck then a premium due to our limitations, this is supported by basic mathematic laws of probability.
hey, whatever argument you want to use for your relatively low rank, go ahead if it makes you feel better. but to say you are more skilled and have to be more selective is just ridiculous. laughable. as i stated before, i made it to Lt. playing as a freemium, and would have easily continued my upward climb. you seem stalled as a striper, and are not making excuses for your low rank, as many tournament players do (that whole myth was just debunked in a thread in the GD, to the dismay of many tournament players). you have no factual evidence to back up any of your claims or stances, it is just the rambling of one guy refusing to pony up 25 bucks, and rationalizing his low rank based on that one simple fact. "if i had premium, i'd be a colonel!!" riiiiiighhhht!!! if you had premium, you would be the same rank you are now, period. unless you went nuts in 1v1 speed games, like many do, and crashed back to corporal. soooo, go ahead and rationalize what you feel your rank should be vs. what it really is. however, at the end of the day, you earn your rank, and it doesn't matter if it is silver or gold, it is how you play the games. you seem to play the games at about a three stripe level... good for you!! be proud!!! stop making excuses as to why you haven't cracked the officers corp yet!-0Soloman wrote: I did not say it is impossible you are emotionally running on a tangent I said that those who are freemiums have to be more choosey, Have higher skill and luck then their premium counter parts to achieve equal ranks. Simple mathematic probability supports this point I am sorry if it upset you. I know there are plenty of freemiums who have made it to higher ranks based upon superior luck and skill. But ask your self this which are there more of on this site freemiums or premiums? After answering that question then ask this one does the minority group have proportionally more high ranks or less then the majority? Then using again basic principles of probability and common sense what key characteristic gives 1 side the advantage over the other? Now I know the answer to all the above, but if you still wish argue that is your prerogative...
