billydigital & Dylan-DeSoto [blocked]

[coloradoguy]

After getting trashed in the ratings by these 2, I looked at their games and find a pattern of these 2 playing in the same games hundred of times. I suspect these 2 of team playing in independent games.

[lancehoch]

Please fill out the form. This will not get looked into by the mods until you do. Form:

Players Accused:

Suspected Of: (choose whichever apply and delete the rest) Multi/Secret Alliance/Abuse/Other

Related Games:

Comments:

[Anarkistsdream]

After getting trashed in the ratings by these 2, I looked at their games and find a pattern of these 2 playing in the same games hundred of times. I suspect these 2 of team playing in independent games.

Firstly, you are correct.

Secondly, I put them both on ignore LONG ago. They are dirty, lying cheaters...

[billydigital]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Curmudgeonx]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Desperate for attention there Billy?

[billydigital]

you bore me

[Dylan-DeSoto]

yawn, we've been cleared before for this, and as you see in the previous games that we attack each other as much as we attack others....get a life!!!

[billydigital]

cue 12 posts from [mod edit] Anarkistsdream [/mod edit]

[FarangDemon]

I will report this via the appropriate form, but just wanted other players who suspect BillyDigital and Dylan-DeSoto of cheating to read so they may be more motivated to submit their own cheating reports.


Game 2683006

Assassin game. DylanDeSoto hits BillyDigital's target 41% of the time giving him the win.



Game 189114

Game chat admission that they call each other to coordinate movement in non-team games

Game 2865837

They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border.

When I get close to eliminating Billy, it appears they coordinated timing to allow DylanDeSoto to eliminate him, getting his points and his cards.

Game 152193

A three player game where they gang up on the third player from the get go and then mock him for observing that he could not win against them both.

Game 2763456

DylanDeSoto hits Billy 8% of time (expected 25% for a 5-man game)

BIllyDigital kills two of the remaining 3 players excluding his buddy, cashing in for +20 mid turn - DylanDeSoto responds by attacking the only player left instead of the obvious board leader, and it was not to get his cards because he was not weak enough.

After his attack on the third player, he declares a truce with BillyDigital (duh!).

[delboy01]

I think this does need looking at, to either clear them or otherwise, so suggest you raise the form. The games need to be listed as follows so that they are clickable.

[game]gamenumberinhere[/game]

It also seems a bit strange that after the last time they were investigated there was a lull in their games together and now they are back playing in multiple games again. Some of the moves in the games, especially the assassin games do merit a closer look. And the win percentage for the two of them in games they play together seems to be increasing.

And guys, just because you were cleared the last time does not mean that you cannot get checked out again. There is no double jeopardy rule on conquer club!!!

[Robiwan Kenobi]

cue 12 posts from [mod edit] Anarkistsdream [/mod edit]

Don't forget at least 4 more from [mod edit] Curmudgeonx [/mod edit]

[delboy01]

cue 12 posts from anarchist's wet dream

Don't forget at least 4 more from CumSmugdeOnX-boyfriend

Interesting. Someone that was warned previously with the two accused but who has not played a game or logged on since march turns up to post on the thread.

This is getting smellier by the minute.

Can someone post a form!

[FarangDemon]

Players Accused: Billydigital & Dylan-DeSoto

Suspected Of: Secret Alliance, Vulgarity in Game Chat

Related Games:

Game 2683006 Assassin game. DylanDeSoto hits BillyDigital's target 41% of the time giving him the win.

Game 152167 3-way game, they only hit the 3rd player

Game 152193 3-way game, they only hit the 3rd player. Then they mock him for observing that he could not win against them both.

Game 189114 Game chat admission that they call each other to coordinate movement in non-team games

Game 2865837 They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border. Billydigital suggests that they team up after the fact, referring to Dylan-DeSoto by his color, as if they had never done this before. When I get close to eliminating Billy, he takes his turn, ending the round. Then, 3 seconds later, Dylan-DeSoto appears to mop him up and take the win.

Game 2763456 DylanDeSoto hits Billy 8% of time (expected 25% for a 5-man game). BillyDigital kills two of the remaining 3 players excluding his buddy, cashing in for +20 mid turn - DylanDeSoto responds by attacking the only player left instead of the obvious board leader, and it was not to get his cards because he was not weak enough. After his attack on the third player, he declares a truce with BillyDigital (duh!).

Game 308098 They never attack each other w/o stating any truce. Vulgarity in game chat.

Game 308100 not a team game but Billydigital clearly softens up Diver so Dylan- DeSoto can finish him off. After Dylan-DeSoto cashes in for 20 with only one other player besides Billydigital left, Billy-Digital decides to attack that other player instead of attempting to thwart the board leader.

[delboy01]

You may have to start a new thread using the form. Then ask for this to be merged with it.

[billydigital]

all circumstantial BS of course...

I hardly played risk for several months, just past few months really got back into it leading to premium membership the other day. [mod edit] I just love projecting [/mod edit]

[billydigital]

i FOUND this rather amusing:

Game 2865837 They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border. Billydigital suggests that they team up after the fact, referring to Dylan-DeSoto by his color, as if they had never done this before.

Leaves out this was a FOG OF FREAKING war game so i would not/did not know who had what continents. Really quite surprised by this allegation as that was an actual really good game. I thought I was going to win for a while and was quite disappointed to lose. And there was no suggesting i team up with anyone via mentioning color. I was bluffing and asking anyone to attack this guy (figuring with fog of war, they couldn't see I was bluffing) as he was beating my ass.

[delboy01]

i FOUND this rather amusing:

Game 2865837 They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border. Billydigital suggests that they team up after the fact, referring to Dylan-DeSoto by his color, as if they had never done this before.

Leaves out this was a FOG OF FREAKING war game so i would not/did not know who had what continents. Really quite surprised by this allegation as that was an actual really good game. I thought I was going to win for a while and was quite disappointed to lose. And there was no suggesting i team up with anyone via mentioning color. I was bluffing and asking anyone to attack this guy (figuring with fog of war, they couldn't see I was bluffing) as he was beating my ass.

But dylan could have told you what the situation was and where he was so it does make sense......

You can't blame people for being suspious. You have done this before with the same player and stopped playing games together and when you re-start people that did not know you have been previously warned came up with this.

[Curmudgeonx]

I think that it is more telling that this thread was dormant for over a month until these secretly diplomatic fellows resurrected it.

They had the stink-eye of the Multi Hunters once for shinnengans and abusive behavior, and then faded away. They crave the attention, so it would not surprise me one bit that they conduct secret diplomacy and then bring their names back to the forefront without thinking of the consequences.

[billydigital]

to clarify, we were cleared and never stopped playing games together when possible. We are friends. I prefer to play games with friends over the public

[billydigital]

dare i ask how we resurrected this thread? i searched my name for the first time in months and was surprised to see anything new pop up.

[Curmudgeonx]

dare i ask how we resurrected this thread? i searched my name for the first time in months and was surprised to see anything new pop up.

One, the post previous by AD was June 26, 2008.

Second "I searched my name", c'mon, who searches their name unless they are seeking notoriety or attention.

Third, then almost thirty days later, you come in and post "zzzzzz" effectively resurrecting the thread; you did not post to defend yourself, or add anything, just trolling.

So let me put into form:

Accused:

* billydigital
* Dylan-DeSoto



The accused are suspected of:
* Secret Diplomacy
* Other: being incredibly abusive in game chat.



Game number(s):

See Comments

Comments:

Game 2683006

Assassin game. DylanDeSoto hits BillyDigital's target 41% of the time giving him the win.



Game 189114

Game chat admission that they call each other to coordinate movement in non-team games

Game 2865837

They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border.

When I get close to eliminating Billy, it appears they coordinated timing to allow DylanDeSoto to eliminate him, getting his points and his cards.

Game 152193

A three player game where they gang up on the third player from the get go and then mock him for observing that he could not win against them both.

Game 2763456

DylanDeSoto hits Billy 8% of time (expected 25% for a 5-man game)

BIllyDigital kills two of the remaining 3 players excluding his buddy, cashing in for +20 mid turn - DylanDeSoto responds by attacking the only player left instead of the obvious board leader, and it was not to get his cards because he was not weak enough.

After his attack on the third player, he declares a truce with BillyDigital (duh!).

[FarangDemon]

Accused:

• BillyDigital
• Dylan-DeSoto

The accused are suspected of:

• Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

• Game 2683006
• Game 152167
• Game 152193
• Game 189114
• Game 2865837
• Game 2763456
• Game 308098
• Game 308100

Comments:

Summary: These players play in many non-team games together and usually do not attack each other until the end of the game. They attempt to deceive the other players by pretending to not know one another in order to disguise this behavior. Many times, at the end of the game, after the damage has been done, one will declare a truce with the other. They have a trend of playing 3 and 4-player non-team games and then ganging up on the other players so they have no chance. Admission in game chat of coordination by phone of non-team games.

Game 2683006 Assassin game. Dylan-DeSoto hits BillyDigital's target more than his own target, giving him the win. He hits Billy's target 41% of the time - the guy he hits the next most, possibly his actual target he only hit 25% of the time.

Game 152167 3-way game, they only hit the 3rd player

Game 152193 3-way game, they only hit the 3rd player. Then they mock him for observing that he could not win against them both.

Game 189114 Game chat admission that they call each other to coordinate movement in non-team games

Game 2865837 They establish bordering continents and prevent their neighbors from establishing continents of their own while maintaining an unspoken truce over their border. Billydigital suggests that they team up after the fact. When I get close to eliminating Billy, he takes his turn, ending the round. Then, 3 seconds later, Dylan-DeSoto appears to mop him up and take the win. The aforementioned admission of phone coordination makes me think this was a secretly coordinated move to "salvage" the game for the benefit of their secret alliance.

Game 2763456 DylanDeSoto hits Billy 8% of time (expected 25% for a 5-man game). BillyDigital kills two of the remaining 3 players excluding his buddy, cashing in for +20 mid turn - DylanDeSoto responds by attacking the only player left instead of the obvious board leader, and it was not to get his cards because he was not weak enough. After his attack on the third player, he declares a truce with BillyDigital (duh!).

Game 308098 They never attack each other w/o stating any truce. Vulgarity in game chat.

Game 308100 not a team game but Billydigital clearly softens up Diver so Dylan- DeSoto can finish him off. After Dylan-DeSoto cashes in for 20 with only one other player besides Billydigital left, Billy-Digital decides to attack that other player instead of attempting to thwart the board leader.

[billydigital]

ha, i was wondering what the "admitted to calling on phone to coordinate attacks" was referring to. Here it is (out of context)

2007-01-28 21:26:21 - billydigital: already called your house and cell and got the low down

-referring to me calling his house as he is my friend and asking his wife where he is and why he isn't taking his turn. She in turn told me he was at work. Hence "called your house and cell and got the low down (from his wife)"

You guys are really really reaching here. Move on.

[billydigital]

They attempt to deceive the other players by pretending to not know one another in order to disguise this behavior. Many times, at the end of the game, after the damage has been done, one will declare a truce with the other.

I'm not sure how i've ever pretended I didn't know him, I openly say in these forums that we are friends, or at least he lived near me and drank beer. Additionally, I would love to see these grandoise declarations of a truce with each other.

Truth be told, I try every bit I can to pass him in points and am disappointed that he typically stays ahead of me as I feel I am the better player. I would love to see him down to cook territory.

[billydigital]

"referred to dylan by color like they haven't done this before etc etc"



just a flat out lie, here is the entire game chat:

2008-07-19 10:41:12 - billydigital: nice move david, you queer
2008-07-21 07:10:10 - billydigital: gonna need some help with pink
2008-07-21 07:10:23 - billydigital: she is controlling almost the whole board from what I can see
2008-07-21 07:46:36 - FarangDemon: gonna need some help against the dame in the red high heels - luckily i went first otherwise she would have went on a killing spree after killing yellow and getting all of his cards

the only color i mentioned was pin, (demon) and I was talking to everyone. For such an alliance against him, i "killed yellow and was about to go on a killing spree" Demon basically said the same exact thing the next line about me (dame in red heels, color red)

demon for the last time, i really thought that was a good game even though i eventually lost. there was no ill will to cheat you there, so i ask you as a man to take this down. Final post on this.