Liberalism for Britain is a no!

[Snorri1234]

Unless you're experimenting. It's all good then.

[Frigidus]

Nationalism is probably the last thing anyone needs right now.

Speak for yourself. Nationalism is the last thing communist liberals want.

Edit: I would however, like to hear just what it is you think everyone needs right now.

Well, to not support your nation. I don't know where you live, but here in the US things are getting bad. Our "two party" system is in reality two slightly dissimilar sections of the same group, and as such we've been heading in the same direction for a while. At the moment, we're trillions of dollars in debt (largely the reason our economy is in such bad shape) and it's only getting worse. We've almost reached the point that we'll never be able to pay it back. Eventually, people will stop handing us money, and then we will sink into a depression. The reason that we have allowed things to get to this point is because we've danced the "God Bless the U.S.A." jig for so long that our political system has rotted. What I want to see is a populace that regards its government with a critical eye, a fluid party system, and at least a lack of growth of our imperialist notions.

[jonesthecurl]

Tea is for homosexuals

That's a fair swap. I'll have two cups please. here's a gay threesome. Keep the change.

[Snorri1234]

Tea is for homosexuals

That's a fair swap. I'll have two cups please. here's a gay threesome. Keep the change.

Don't forget to get a packet of arse-bandits as well.

[joecoolfrog]

I wrote this thread.... I was as drunk as a skunk last night honest. I'll write a better one soon.

You haven't bothered to post a decent thread yet

Pot meet kettle.

Oh Despair
I am being mocked by a believer in demons and talking snakes, one whose searing insight has inspired a generation of serpent clutchers and devotees of the Waltons ( censored episodes only ). What is to become of me now that I have been smeared by the court jester of conspirators, a veritable byword for common sense and fun, a true Giant in creationist think tanks ( hee hee like anybody would believe that such a thing could exist ) Jay truly I think you have inspired more atheists than any other poster on this forum, you are a real credit to all those who mock the Fundamentalist little league

[HapSmo19]

Nationalism is probably the last thing anyone needs right now.

......I would however, like to hear just what it is you think everyone needs right now.

Well, to not support your nation. I don't know where you live, but here in the US things are getting bad. Our "two party" system is in reality two slightly dissimilar sections of the same group, and as such we've been heading in the same direction for a while. At the moment, we're trillions of dollars in debt (largely the reason our economy is in such bad shape) and it's only getting worse. We've almost reached the point that we'll never be able to pay it back. Eventually, people will stop handing us money, and then we will sink into a depression. The reason that we have allowed things to get to this point is because we've danced the "God Bless the U.S.A." jig for so long that our political system has rotted. What I want to see is a populace that regards its government with a critical eye, a fluid party system, and at least a lack of growth of our imperialist notions.

So you're a nationalist?

[jonesthecurl]

Hey don't mock talking cobras.

[Frigidus]

Nationalism is probably the last thing anyone needs right now.

......I would however, like to hear just what it is you think everyone needs right now.

Well, to not support your nation. I don't know where you live, but here in the US things are getting bad. Our "two party" system is in reality two slightly dissimilar sections of the same group, and as such we've been heading in the same direction for a while. At the moment, we're trillions of dollars in debt (largely the reason our economy is in such bad shape) and it's only getting worse. We've almost reached the point that we'll never be able to pay it back. Eventually, people will stop handing us money, and then we will sink into a depression. The reason that we have allowed things to get to this point is because we've danced the "God Bless the U.S.A." jig for so long that our political system has rotted. What I want to see is a populace that regards its government with a critical eye, a fluid party system, and at least a lack of growth of our imperialist notions.

So you're a nationalist?

No. I was using the U.S. as an example because it is familiar to me. Personally I hate my government, and I think that most of our country consists of clueless retards. Maybe that's considered nationalism nowadays. Allow me to clarify my post. I feel that the reason the situation in my country has gotten so bad is because nationalist tendencies led to an extremely patriotic citizenry that no longer questions its government (in any substantial way, at least). I can't for the life of me understand the value of blind loyalty to anything, let alone a ruling body. It hardly constitutes democracy. Nationalism and patriotism let the powerful run rampant. This is a very bad thing.

[kletka]

Personally I hate my government.

Hey, me too I hate your government!!!

Paris Hilton for president

[Frigidus]

Personally I hate my government.

Hey, me too I hate your government!!!

Paris Hilton for president

She'd probably be too busy being a ditz to actually do anything harmful, so I can (almost) say she would be a step up.

[InkL0sed]

I went to the same school as her. She's in my first-grade year book

[Frigidus]

I went to the same school as her. She's in my first-grade year book

I'm sure you got a quality education.

[jonesthecurl]

I went to the same school as her. She's in my first-grade year book

I'm sure you got a quality education.

yes, hers.

[InkL0sed]

I went to the same school as her. She's in my first-grade year book

I'm sure you got a quality education.

Actually... I did

My middle school is in urban dictionary

You can get a good education there. The teachers are awesome. The students are the problem...

[kletka]

I went to the same school as her. She's in my first-grade year book

Lucky her Did she hit on you?

[HapSmo19]

So you're a nationalist?

No. I was using the U.S. as an example because it is familiar to me. Personally I hate my government, and I think that most of our country consists of clueless retards. Maybe that's considered nationalism nowadays. Allow me to clarify my post. I feel that the reason the situation in my country has gotten so bad is because nationalist tendencies led to an extremely patriotic citizenry that no longer questions its government (in any substantial way, at least). I can't for the life of me understand the value of blind loyalty to anything, let alone a ruling body. It hardly constitutes democracy. Nationalism and patriotism let the powerful run rampant. This is a very bad thing.

Dude,.....what have they done to you?

Here's something more like it: http://www.nationalistpartyusa.com/

[Frigidus]

So you're a nationalist?

No. I was using the U.S. as an example because it is familiar to me. Personally I hate my government, and I think that most of our country consists of clueless retards. Maybe that's considered nationalism nowadays. Allow me to clarify my post. I feel that the reason the situation in my country has gotten so bad is because nationalist tendencies led to an extremely patriotic citizenry that no longer questions its government (in any substantial way, at least). I can't for the life of me understand the value of blind loyalty to anything, let alone a ruling body. It hardly constitutes democracy. Nationalism and patriotism let the powerful run rampant. This is a very bad thing.

Dude,.....what have they done to you?

Here's something more like it: http://www.nationalistpartyusa.com/

Quoting the website itself:

The Definition of a Nationalist:
1. Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2. The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3. Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign dominance.

1. I am no more devoted to my nations interests than anyone else who happens to have been born here. Indeed, I get rather upset when my nation's vague interests are placed above the well-being of those who live outside of it. Strike one.

2. Definitely not. That line of thinking is what led to WWI. Bad times. Besides, independent actions are much more open to corruption than collective ones. So scratch this entirely. Strike two.

3. Well...we aren't under foreign dominance, so that's strike three.

Perhaps I'm confused, but what exactly gives you the idea that I'm a nationalist?

The Nationalist will reject "Multiculturalism" in all its sordid forms.

Have I somehow given the impression that I'm a racist f*ck? I'm just not sure where this is coming from.

[HapSmo19]

I would however, like to hear just what it is you think everyone needs right now.

Well, to not support your nation.

I get rather upset when my nation's vague interests are placed above the well-being of those who live outside of it.

Do you have any consistent views? You lost me at strike 1.

I am no more devoted to my nations interests than anyone else who happens to have been born here..

Then you have nothing to complain about.

[Neoteny]

I'm failing to see the inconsistencies that you are noting, Hap.

[got tonkaed]

While i understand the appeal and even think they argue rather consistently from within the framework, i question how anyone can really believe taking ones ball and going home is an appropriate way to deal with the current world system.

[Neoteny]

While i understand the appeal and even think they argue rather consistently from within the framework, i question how anyone can really believe taking ones ball and going home is an appropriate way to deal with the current world system.

Particularly after intentionally throwing the ball over the fence in the first place.

[got tonkaed]

While i understand the appeal and even think they argue rather consistently from within the framework, i question how anyone can really believe taking ones ball and going home is an appropriate way to deal with the current world system.

Particularly after intentionally throwing the ball over the fence in the first place.

the troubling thing is, by the time one goes to collect the ball, you realize you are staring at an entire lawn of balls, all made at half cost and rated higher by focus groups because of their adaptability in design and performance.

[Neoteny]

While i understand the appeal and even think they argue rather consistently from within the framework, i question how anyone can really believe taking ones ball and going home is an appropriate way to deal with the current world system.

Particularly after intentionally throwing the ball over the fence in the first place.

the troubling thing is, by the time one goes to collect the ball, you realize you are staring at an entire lawn of balls, all made at half cost and rated higher by focus groups because of their adaptability in design and performance.

As you might notice from my avatar, it's hard for me to resist talking about balls. Especially ergonomic, efficient ones.

[got tonkaed]

While i understand the appeal and even think they argue rather consistently from within the framework, i question how anyone can really believe taking ones ball and going home is an appropriate way to deal with the current world system.

Particularly after intentionally throwing the ball over the fence in the first place.

the troubling thing is, by the time one goes to collect the ball, you realize you are staring at an entire lawn of balls, all made at half cost and rated higher by focus groups because of their adaptability in design and performance.

As you might notice from my avatar, it's hard for me to resist talking about balls. Especially ergonomic, efficient ones.

its a trap that few can avoid id presume.

[Frigidus]

I would however, like to hear just what it is you think everyone needs right now.

Well, to not support your nation.

I get rather upset when my nation's vague interests are placed above the well-being of those who live outside of it.

Do you have any consistent views? You lost me at strike 1.

Haha, what, not supporting my nation and being upset with my nation are inconsistent?

I am no more devoted to my nations interests than anyone else who happens to have been born here..

Then you have nothing to complain about.

Actually, considering the immense impact the US has on the world at large (not to mention me) I have plenty to complain about. Just because I am not devoted to the interests of my country doesn't mean I'm not devoted to other things.