does nobody like the high seas map?

[theanubis]

nobody joins my high seas games, unless they're 1vs1. does nobody like the map?

[*manimal]

speed gamers play the same maps.

[ParadiceCity9]

I like that map..I played like 5 1v1's and like the game play. I'm also in i think 2 5 man games like that too so it's not just 1v1.

[Scott-Land]

I sat an account this weekend where they had a few High Seas games- definitely a " to play " map for me..... I like the small bonus maps with no gimmicks.

[Pedronicus]

That map missed out on a massive connection. If the panama canal was open and you could go between Caribbean and pacific - then it would be much more playable, CARTOGRAPHERS - Classic is really good because of alaska / kam, you missed out on making one of the few maps that could of added a cross map junction that made sense to include through an actual human achievement. Those blokes didn't dig the canal for a laugh.

[dividedbyzero]

Those blokes didn't dig the canal for a laugh.

No...they did it so Jimmy Carter could give it away!

Actually, it's not a bad map at all. I think it'll be a good doubles map.

[Pedronicus]

are Americans still pissed that they don't own the rights to a waterway that flows through another country?

then get some engineers to make a canal through America and undercut those damn pesky Panamanians

[edbeard]

I wouldn't say he missed out on the connection considering it's based on world maps of the 1600s. Anyway, I think the map is quite good as it is now.

If you like connections across the way like that, I'll be working on a world map that includes both land and ocean territories. I just need to figure out where exactly to put all the land to water connections (and hammer out all the gameplay blah blah blah) and find an artist to make it look good. So basically everything

Click on the link in my sig to find the initial (awful looking) draft. I appreciate any comments even if it's to say you think it's terrible.

[oaktown]

That map missed out on a massive connection. If the panama canal was open and you could go between Caribbean and pacific - then it would be much more playable, CARTOGRAPHERS - Classic is really good because of alaska / kam, you missed out on making one of the few maps that could of added a cross map junction that made sense to include through an actual human achievement. Those blokes didn't dig the canal for a laugh.

It should be pointed out that - like the alaska/kamchatka route that you mention in classic - there is a cross-map junction in the south.

When the play of a seas map was first being worked out months ago a second connection was considered, either as an arctic passage or as the Panama Canal. There was concern that by creating additional routes you add borders and make the regions even harder to hold - the North Atlantic would have one more border to defend with either connection, and I think it's hard enough to hold as is. The reason it takes four months to make a map is because we discuss all of these things.

Also note the theme of the map - 16th Century. There was no Panama Canal then, no Suez Canal, and no Northwest Passage. Plus the mapmakers of the day thought that Alaska was a part of the Antarctic, and that California was an island. We played with making this a 19th century map and connecting the Med with the Red Sea, but the 16th century inaccuracies made this map play better.

As for playing this map, I've been out of town and have only finished one game (a loss). I'd be more than happy to join your games, theanubis.

[dividedbyzero]

are Americans still pissed that they don't own the rights to a waterway that flows through another country?

then get some engineers to make a canal through America and undercut those damn pesky Panamanians

Lighten up, Francis. It just made for a good joke.

[Juan_Bottom]

I hate it.......

This bothers me too much:

Also note the theme of the map - 16th Century.

So Australia ends up connected to Antartica, yet there is no Northwest Passage? Are we going for half realistic and half 16th century belief? This map is too stuck in the middle for me to enjoy.... Everytime I see it, I just get to critical.

[oaktown]

So Australia ends up connected to Antartica, yet there is no Northwest Passage?

yep... kinda like this old map...


Anyway, we don't always get everything perfect in the Foundry, but we do the best we can... others are always welcome to come and help!

[hwhrhett]

i like the high seas map, its good.

[Juan_Bottom]

Anyway, we don't always get everything perfect in the Foundry, but we do the best we can... others are always welcome to come and help!

I always do!!!!!!!

yep... kinda like this old map...

I actually bumbed into that map, when I did a search for a good map to prove my point about the passage.... But by the time I got there, the map was pretty much done. I'm too new.
That map came a looooooong ways from being "from a fish's perspective" though, didn't it? Total overhaul!

[hulmey]

Game play is really bad on this map..with alot of bottle necks! But hey if you dont like it, then dont play it. For those that do like it, they have an extra map to fall in love with

[Kemmler]

Game play is really bad on this map..with alot of bottle necks! But hey if you dont like it, then dont play it. For those that do like it, they have an extra map to fall in love with

yup, it's too small for 1v1 and people only play feudal and classic for multiplayers...

[Hatchman]

Love the map. Looks great, plays fine.

Oh and you gotta remember it's circa 1600s, so Suez and Panama canals are a bit of a pipe dream.

[Pedronicus]

are Americans still pissed that they don't own the rights to a waterway that flows through another country?

then get some engineers to make a canal through America and undercut those damn pesky Panamanians

Lighten up, Francis. It just made for a good joke.

Francis? Are we talking Drake here?
Anyways, my response was tongue in cheek.

When the play of a seas map was first being worked out months ago a second connection was considered, either as an arctic passage or as the Panama Canal. There was concern that by creating additional routes you add borders and make the regions even harder to hold - the North Atlantic would have one more border to defend with either connection, and I think it's hard enough to hold as is. The reason it takes four months to make a map is because we discuss all of these things.

I like a map to have a hard to hold continent. It gives a player a place to hold out and quietly build some armies, instead of always being in a part of the map that someone wants to grab as another bonus.

Also note the theme of the map - 16th Century. There was no Panama Canal then, no Suez Canal, and no Northwest Passage. Plus the mapmakers of the day thought that Alaska was a part of the Antarctic, and that California was an island. We played with making this a 19th century map and connecting the Med with the Red Sea, but the 16th century inaccuracies made this map play better.

There is no mention that this is a 16th century map on the join game page, It's just called the High Seas. Just because the map maker decided to make it look like an old discoloured pirate treasure map, makes it aesthetically pleasing, but detracts from playability.
Hell, why not go back a few more centuries and make it round with the edge of the world / sea just falling off a big cliff.
Please re name the map to reflect the time it is set in.

[dividedbyzero]

Francis? Are we talking Drake here?
Anyways, my response was tongue in cheek.

I was thinking more of Stripes, but I think I like your answer more.

[tiberiusaquila]

I like HS.

A lot.

Don't like it?

Make your own d@mn map, spanky.

[Kemmler]

the main attractionf for me to this site is the new maps and this one looks beautiful

[Lindax]

I like it

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[t-o-m]

nobody joins my high seas games, unless they're 1vs1. does nobody like the map?

1v1's fill extremely fast.

How can you say 23,000 people dont like the map because they just dont join your games?