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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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Version 10!
Added bonuses...moved one battle...moved text...resized text...added mini map
Any ideas for how the continents should be labeled in the mini map?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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This is looking fantastic!

Give yourself a pat on the back.
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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ZeakCytho wrote:I find the font on the territory names and in the legend very hard to read. Could you find a different Gothic-style font that's a bit more legible?
You seem to have forgotten this?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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ZeakCytho wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I find the font on the territory names and in the legend very hard to read. Could you find a different Gothic-style font that's a bit more legible?
You seem to have forgotten this?
dont worry...i want to iron out some elements like the mini map and bonuses before i work on font...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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t-o-m wrote:This is looking fantastic!

Give yourself a pat on the back.
thank you very much :D
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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bspride wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I find the font on the territory names and in the legend very hard to read. Could you find a different Gothic-style font that's a bit more legible?
You seem to have forgotten this?
dont worry...i want to iron out some elements like the mini map and bonuses before i work on font...
Okay, just making sure that comment hadn't fallen by the wayside.

You might want to consider making the bonus for holding both roses +1 instead of +2. It's only two territories, and someone could easily start with both.

South England is practically impossible to hold - any chance of you splitting it into two bonuses?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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ZeakCytho wrote:
bspride wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I find the font on the territory names and in the legend very hard to read. Could you find a different Gothic-style font that's a bit more legible?
You seem to have forgotten this?
dont worry...i want to iron out some elements like the mini map and bonuses before i work on font...
Okay, just making sure that comment hadn't fallen by the wayside.

You might want to consider making the bonus for holding both roses +1 instead of +2. It's only two territories, and someone could easily start with both.

South England is practically impossible to hold - any chance of you splitting it into two bonuses?
i was considering that...possibly Lands End continent
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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I will be changing the font in the map for my next update...anything else i should change while im at it?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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Right now all i have time to comment on is the mini-map. On the mini-map, try removing the docks, territory lines (except the darker ones that show where areas end!), and rivers, scale it down a tiny bit, and then adding the numbers for the bonuses (except the battles)
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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Version 11
moved mini map...added bonuses...moved some text...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 9 p.5)

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ZeakCytho wrote:
bspride wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I find the font on the territory names and in the legend very hard to read. Could you find a different Gothic-style font that's a bit more legible?
You seem to have forgotten this?
dont worry...i want to iron out some elements like the mini map and bonuses before i work on font...
Okay, just making sure that comment hadn't fallen by the wayside.

You might want to consider making the bonus for holding both roses +1 instead of +2. It's only two territories, and someone could easily start with both.

South England is practically impossible to hold - any chance of you splitting it into two bonuses?
i was hoping to have the roses start as neutral...and im not sold on splitting South England...with two continents there it would be too many bonuses i think
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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You have to start using [bigimg] tags mate, your huge image is warping my browser #-o
What do you know about map making, bitch?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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gimil wrote:You have to start using
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 10 p.6)

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From the below version, could you make it a little less red please?
I think it would benefit it and make it less orange and look a tad more old.
bspride wrote:Version 11
moved mini map...added bonuses...moved some text...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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Ok, i just took the image and played with curves and levels, something like this perhaps?

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(p.s you gotta wait 5 seconds for the image to change, the 1st image is the original)
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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its a little dark for my taste...but yes I could make it darker i guess
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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That was just an example, you could always make it darker, the point i was trying to make was that i would prefer it to be less red and more yellowy/beige than reddy-orange :)
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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t-o-m wrote:(p.s you gotta wait 5 seconds for the image to change, the 1st image is the original)

sheesh dude! dont scare me like that! i kept looking at it, then looking away, glimpsing it, and doing a double take to see it back to normal! i thought my vision was goin bad or somethin!


and I actually really like the way that tom did it (the changed), although in my opinion his is to light. Also, maybe make the mini-map a tad bit smaller?

also, for bonuses:

South england seems a little high. Maybe 4 or 5 instead of 6? im fine with 6 tho if you want it that
North england seems fine :)
Wales seems a little low for bonus. Whoever holds it has to protect 4 territories , so in my opinion 3-5 would be better.
I think midlands could use being a bonus of 6, but I dont mind if its not.
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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The regions need to be differentiated more on the main map, so that it is more apparent where they begin/end.

The battles don't appear to be evenly distributed - I know that is due to historical accuaracy etc, but it makes the South a bit of a wasteland...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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bryguy wrote:also, for bonuses:

South england seems a little high. Maybe 4 or 5 instead of 6? im fine with 6 tho if you want it that
I could not disagree with brygy more. If anything, S. England should be higher. It's a massive continent with 5 borders - no one will get it until very late in the game.

I'm still in favor of splitting it...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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MrBenn wrote:The regions need to be differentiated more on the main map, so that it is more apparent where they begin/end.

The battles don't appear to be evenly distributed - I know that is due to historical accuaracy etc, but it makes the South a bit of a wasteland...
I feel you there...i can add more battles in the south...or add something there to spice it up? suggestions?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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ZeakCytho wrote:
bryguy wrote:also, for bonuses:

South england seems a little high. Maybe 4 or 5 instead of 6? im fine with 6 tho if you want it that
I could not disagree with brygy more. If anything, S. England should be higher. It's a massive continent with 5 borders - no one will get it until very late in the game.

I'm still in favor of splitting it...
Yes but if it is too high...It will be impossible to win if you gained it early in the game with a good drop
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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bryguy wrote:
t-o-m wrote:(p.s you gotta wait 5 seconds for the image to change, the 1st image is the original)

sheesh dude! dont scare me like that! i kept looking at it, then looking away, glimpsing it, and doing a double take to see it back to normal! i thought my vision was goin bad or somethin!


and I actually really like the way that tom did it (the changed), although in my opinion his is to light. Also, maybe make the mini-map a tad bit smaller?

also, for bonuses:

South england seems a little high. Maybe 4 or 5 instead of 6? im fine with 6 tho if you want it that
North england seems fine :)
Wales seems a little low for bonus. Whoever holds it has to protect 4 territories , so in my opinion 3-5 would be better.
I think midlands could use being a bonus of 6, but I dont mind if its not.
The only thing i think is that if i darken the paper...I will not darken the wood background...and it could contrast to much
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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I thought it was a paper background?
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 11 p.6)

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ZeakCytho wrote:
bryguy wrote:also, for bonuses:

South england seems a little high. Maybe 4 or 5 instead of 6? im fine with 6 tho if you want it that
I could not disagree with brygy more. If anything, S. England should be higher. It's a massive continent with 5 borders - no one will get it until very late in the game.

I'm still in favor of splitting it...
oops your right, i forgot about the ports and accidentally left a couple of territs out in my counting :oops:
t-o-m wrote:I thought it was a paper background?
he is talking about the wood behind the paper.


Also, I agree with MrBenn, the regions need to be differentiated more on the main map.
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