socialism indicted

[pimpdave]

Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault. The 'market' is a human invention, like nuclear bombs. I realise that's a poor analogy for the more 2nd amendment-happy crowd, so i'll try another analogy... it's a function of human behaviour, like incest or line dancing. This time please leave government, regulation and in fact everything else to the people with a clue. k tks.

One would like to think we'd have learned from the laissez-faire government of the 1920s, exactly what it brings. But oh well.

[mpjh]

Lesson # 2 coming up.

[Frigidus]

I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.

Seriously, go stand in front of a train. Or in the freeway. Or walk off of a bridge.

There is no, repeat, no excuse for your behavior.

So, if I said that all women should be legally obliged to give birth (c-sections don't count) to no fewer than three children by the time they reach the age of 22, would you bestow upon me the privilege of driving that train?

Well, I'd take the train over the freeway, as public transportation is good for nature. I have the sudden urge to inform all of you that I think that all guns...no, anything that can be construed as a weapon...should be banned. Take, as an example, baseball bats. You could kill someone with one swing of those. Why is it that we are so obsessed with sports involving violent collisions? If we removed projectile, sharp, and blunt weapons from society, there would be no way to kill anyone! Besides, the only good sport is football (not American). I think that the main reason for this collision thing is male aggression. We should perhaps encourage more people to be gay.

[Iliad]

You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

[Frigidus]

You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

That sounds a little inefficient. Maybe we could let the United Nations decide who gets to log and hunt.

[Iliad]

You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

That sounds a little inefficient. Maybe we could let the United Nations decide who gets to log and hunt.

That would be a good idea. And that doesn't look to do much in retrospect. Maybe it should be made illegal for developed countries to get oil. We really should just use renewable resources

[Frigidus]

You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

That sounds a little inefficient. Maybe we could let the United Nations decide who gets to log and hunt.

That would be a good idea. And that doesn't look to do much in retrospect. Maybe it should be made illegal for developed countries to get oil. We really should just use renewable resources

And that only when it doesn't have any impact on the ecosystem around those resources. Sometimes our country's actions are so arrogant.

[Jenos Ridan]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

[luns101]

Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault.

I love ya to death, cola...but that's just not true.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... =permalink

Admitedly, there were those on the right involved in banking/financial institutions which went along with the leftist government manipulation of sound lending principles.

Paragraph #7 is most telling

[comic boy]

Dead babies make great door stops .....Obviously you need to resin them first.

[Nickbaldwin]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

[Neoteny]

Dead babies make great door stops .....Obviously you need to resin them first.

That would ruin their soup potential, however, so one must balance one's priorities.

[Iliad]

Dead babies make great door stops .....Obviously you need to resin them first.

That would ruin their soup potential, however, so one must balance one's priorities.

Also you gotta think about hats, etc. You really should rationally spread your dead babies on a whole range of products

[heavycola]

Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault.

I love ya to death, cola...but that's just not true.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... =permalink

Admitedly, there were those on the right involved in banking/financial institutions which went along with the leftist government manipulation of sound lending principles.

Paragraph #7 is most telling

trust luns to burst this ol' balloon. the third para is also telling. Vote McCain, and bring back Thatcher while you're at it.

[Frigidus]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

[jonesthecurl]

I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.

I suppose you don't like seal cubs either?

[Dancing Mustard]

I don't really see the problem with seal-clubbing myself.

Not only is the use of seal-pelts no worse than the use of cow-hides for shoe-leather; but the manner in which the seals are killed is swift, efficient, more cost-effective than cattle culling, and 100% environmentally friendly. Also, the seal-clubbing industry provides many Northern communities with their main sources of income, and as such banning or curbing it would be economically irresponsible.

So no, I don't particularly like baby-seals as compared to other animals, and I see no problem with the continued yearly harvesting of their pelts, i.e. seal clubbing.

[Nickbaldwin]

Why would anyone want to club Seal. He's lovely.

[Snorri1234]

One of the greatests moments of my life was clubbing with Seal.

[Thor Son of Olaf]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

[Frigidus]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

I understand that you're a baby sympathizer and a coward.

[Ditocoaf]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

My god, another one of you who doesn't get it? At first I was happy that this thread was going as planned, but now I'm unsettled by how well its working... and what's worse, I have a bad feeling that people will continue to attempt to argue that baby-killing is bad, even after this post of mine! Ugh, I've had enough of this. Time to go rape a few more 12-year-old girls to take the stress off...

[Frigidus]

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

My god, another one of you who doesn't get it? At first I was happy that this thread was going as planned, but now I'm unsettled by how well its working... and what's worse, I have a bad feeling that people will continue to attempt to argue that baby-killing is bad, even after this post of mine! Ugh, I've had enough of this. Time to go rape a few more 12-year-old girls to take the stress off...

Hey, that's just tasteless.

[Nickbaldwin]

To say that a man has no life left to live is foolish.

[Neoteny]

Hey, that's just tasteless.

Seriously. Pedophilia is just fucked up.